Why does the Women's US Soccer team think they deserve equal pay when they can't even beat 13 - 14 year old boys?

Question

It's well known that the women's US soccer team filed a lawsuit claiming they are discriminated against because they don't get paid the same as the men's soccer team. But they are not nearly as talented or capable as the men's team, which is why they do not deserve equal pay. They were recently beaten 5-2 by a group of 13 and 14 year old boys.

How can they believe they deserve equal pay when they can't even beat a children's team?

https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/

Answer 1

NearlyNapping

Guru

The link itself said the women's team wasn't trying. There is no way a local team of boys that age will beat the women's national team in a real match. For that matter I seriously doubt if a local team of adult men could beat a women's national team.

No, I don't think the women's sports should get paid as much as men's sports. They just don't bring in the money that the men's sports do. But saying they were beat by a group of boys is deceptive.

Those boys don't get paid as much as men's pro teams either. For the same reason. They aren't bringing in as much money.

0112358

1 y
Against that age group likely not.

A boys national U-17 team will crush a women’s national team though.
NearlyNapping

1 y
@0112358

I don't know what this team was, but I got the impression that it was a small local U-15 team. Back hen I played there was no such thing as girls or women's soccer. I haven't even spent much time watching them. But I find it hard to believe a local team of U-15 could beat a national women's team who are the best of the best throughout the entire country.
0112358

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In some countries, they likely would. The U. S. women's team is a powerhouse by women's teams standards, and would probably beat most u-15 teams when fully committed. But it's not that easy … even looking at the photos, you can see the u-15 boys are towering over the women's team members. Speed is an issue as well: top boys high school track athletes in the U. S. would be winning world women's events. The physical advantages are real.

Answer 2

0112358

Against that age group likely not.

A boys national U-17 team will crush a women’s national team though.

Answer 3

NearlyNapping

@0112358

I don't know what this team was, but I got the impression that it was a small local U-15 team. Back hen I played there was no such thing as girls or women's soccer. I haven't even spent much time watching them. But I find it hard to believe a local team of U-15 could beat a national women's team who are the best of the best throughout the entire country.

Answer 4

0112358

In some countries, they likely would. The U. S. women's team is a powerhouse by women's teams standards, and would probably beat most u-15 teams when fully committed. But it's not that easy … even looking at the photos, you can see the u-15 boys are towering over the women's team members. Speed is an issue as well: top boys high school track athletes in the U. S. would be winning world women's events. The physical advantages are real.

Answer 5

Miristheiss | 68 opinions shared on Sports topic.

Guru

They swallow the radical feminist view that all things must be the same.
They live in a make believe world of envy and believe the world should be this way or that.
The reality is payouts are big when the sport/league makes lots of money do to interest, fans in seats, lots of produc5 endorsment interest and tv willing ro pay a lot to televise. Revenue is high... salaries are high. Economics.
If revenues are low... salaries, will be lower.
NBA... tons of revenue... Lebron makes tons.
WNBA... interest and revenue is much lower, their top player makes much less.

Answer 6

Bman4907

Xper 6

It's not about who they can beat, it's based on how many people actually watch the sport and buy into the merchandise. If nobody is buying the product, they won't sell for the cost they want to. The WNBA for example has little to no following compared to the NBA, but still demands to be paid as much as the men. The WNBA actually has their income supplemented by the NBA itself to keep it running. They want to be paid what they see the guys getting paid, but the ratings, not results, determine how much the group gets paid.

Answer 7

DWornock

Explorer

I don't know about soccer, but usually pay is based on market value. For example NBA players earn far more than WNBA players because the public has a far greater interest in watching men's basketball. Therefore, there are far greater crowds and advertising money available.

Answer 8

BrexitAteMyLobster

Xper 6

They don't deserve equal pay until they generate the same revenue, because that's what it's all about. Pay is not based on talent alone, it's based on the money that you generate for the club that you play for.

Answer 9

ecfresh | 186 opinions shared on Sports topic.

Master

This is not a serious question. You are being deceptive.

Asker

1 y
How exactly am I being deceptive?
ecfresh

1 y
You claimed they can’t even beat the boys team. You know they can beat the boys team if they tried, it’s implied in the details of the link. Tsk tsk.
Asker

1 y
No, that's not implied at all. Being an informal meet does not imply they could have beat the boys nor that they didn't try.
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ecfresh

1 y
It actually does. I am assuming you know the minimal about soccer, but being an informal meet they likely didn’t have their starters playing nor did they have much time to practice. If treated like a World Cup match they women would have won. That’s the deceptive part of your question. But if you are not willing to admit it then oh well.
Asker

1 y
False. The meet was preparation for upcoming matches and obviously the starters would be the primary ones involved in that. That's only logical and the article says nothing to the contrary.
ecfresh

1 y
Ok, that’s the proof I needed; clearly I assumed you knew more about soccer and friendlies... you know less by that statement. I would suggest doing to research on this subject. Ty for the discussion. Cheers
Asker

1 y
Having coached soccer for years I am quite familiar with how it works. lol

Answer 10

Asker

How exactly am I being deceptive?

Answer 11

ecfresh

You claimed they can’t even beat the boys team. You know they can beat the boys team if they tried, it’s implied in the details of the link. Tsk tsk.

Answer 12

Asker

No, that's not implied at all. Being an informal meet does not imply they could have beat the boys nor that they didn't try.

Answer 13

ecfresh

It actually does. I am assuming you know the minimal about soccer, but being an informal meet they likely didn’t have their starters playing nor did they have much time to practice. If treated like a World Cup match they women would have won. That’s the deceptive part of your question. But if you are not willing to admit it then oh well.

Answer 14

Asker

False. The meet was preparation for upcoming matches and obviously the starters would be the primary ones involved in that. That's only logical and the article says nothing to the contrary.

Answer 15

ecfresh

Ok, that’s the proof I needed; clearly I assumed you knew more about soccer and friendlies... you know less by that statement. I would suggest doing to research on this subject. Ty for the discussion. Cheers

Answer 16

Asker

Having coached soccer for years I am quite familiar with how it works. lol

Answer 17

Anonymous

The US soccer men aren't that good either and they earn much more.

Asker

1 y
The US men's soccer team is not that good relative to other national men's teams, but compared to the US women's team they are far superior. The US men's team would utterly destroy the US women's team, and that is the point here. They are not worthy of the same pay because they are not in the same universe in terms of talent and they do not bring in nearly as much revenue.
Opinion Owner

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Which is partly due to the fact that sport promotion for women is much less or hardly exists.
Asker

1 y
It's not about promotion. People are simply not as interested in women's sports.
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Opinion Owner

1 y
That may be the case in the United States. It's different in my country. Women are encouraged and supported just like men.
Asker

1 y
Women are encouraged and supported here too, but men's sports are big business and bring in enormous amounts of money, much more than women's sports. Fr example, there are both men's and women's NBS basketball leagues. Men's games are a big deal, well attended, very expensive to attend, lots of commercial involvement, advertising, etc. Women's games are typically mostly empty and there is relatively little money involved. That's because women's basketball is pretty boring to watch and the skill level is so much lower.

Answer 18

Asker

The US men's soccer team is not that good relative to other national men's teams, but compared to the US women's team they are far superior. The US men's team would utterly destroy the US women's team, and that is the point here. They are not worthy of the same pay because they are not in the same universe in terms of talent and they do not bring in nearly as much revenue.

Answer 19

Opinion Owner

Which is partly due to the fact that sport promotion for women is much less or hardly exists.

Answer 20

Asker

It's not about promotion. People are simply not as interested in women's sports.

Answer 21

Opinion Owner

That may be the case in the United States. It's different in my country. Women are encouraged and supported just like men.

Answer 22

Asker

Women are encouraged and supported here too, but men's sports are big business and bring in enormous amounts of money, much more than women's sports. Fr example, there are both men's and women's NBS basketball leagues. Men's games are a big deal, well attended, very expensive to attend, lots of commercial involvement, advertising, etc. Women's games are typically mostly empty and there is relatively little money involved. That's because women's basketball is pretty boring to watch and the skill level is so much lower.

Answer 23

4mazing

Xper 5

Have you seen what United players earn?

Answer 24

Gedaria

Master

Can the big boys beat the the school kids?

Asker

1 y
Of course they can.

Answer 25

Asker

Of course they can.

Why does the Women's US Soccer team think they deserve equal pay when they can't even beat 13 - 14 year old boys?

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