Wait. Don't we already. That's how we got that joke of a basketball league, isn't it? What sport do they not have a league for... Besides football. Oh wait, do you mean like on the same team? Like coed teams? That would be an absolutely terrible idea. Like, horrible and terrible combined into the same idea. Unless it was something like a debate team. For anyone gonna call me out for being sexist, you are retarded. When it comes to things like strength and such, it's just not the same thing. You can not argue that it is. That's why there is separate leagues already. It just wouldn't be fair. And before someone says "but what about blah blah blah. They are strong." And to those people I say "go grab a coloring book." I'm not saying women are weak. I'm saying they are not as strong as men. It's nothing that they did wrong. It's not that I am talking poorly about them. This is just reality. It's nothing against them. But we figured all that out when they made a separate league. So long winded answer is no. They should definitely not do that.
If we leave it to skill and merit no woman would ever make a professional team. Or maybe just one out of 500 players in any given league would be woman. And if we make it a quota system like Hollywood then we'd be taking opportunity away from 50% of deserving guys and 50% of women who deserve their own league and that's beyond unfair.
So I say leave it as is. Even the most feminist person in the world agrees that physically speaking there is a difference.
Sure men and women could play certain sports together, mainly anything without contact like tenis and volleyball and racing as well as wintersports and track and field but most of these are already mixed gendres.
But basketball or football or hockey or any kombat sports just wouldn't work
There's a reason men and women don't compete directly in most sports. Because physically we are different. Men tend to be bigger and stronger physically. Would you see a mixed male and female power lifting competition as fair? How about rugby or the softer version - American Football? Most women would just get brushed aside trying to tackle a prop weighing 250-300lb. Even something that placid like golf. Men can drive a ball appreciably further.
And ultimately no one wants to enter a contest where they're disadvantaged with litte chance of doing well. What would be the point?
True. Even further still... you are speaking as if the women will STILL be there but will just get overshadowed and defeated easily. The truth is most of the women will be gone. No basketball league will draft a woman over a man. What NBA team will draft a slower 5'5" girl point guard over a 6'3", stronger, faster, higher leaping guy? What NBA will draft a 6'5" girl center who plays below the rim over a 6'11" much stronger man who can dunk over people? They will not get drafted hence no more women pro sports. No LPGA ladies could even make the tour... except maybe 2-3 extreme cases... the best of the best. Very few lady tennis players would even qualify. The men serve much, much faster than the women can. The same in high school and college sports. The bottom line... ll of these women getting scholarships and enjoying competitive sports would just be eliminated because they cannot make the teams and they are on the outside looking in again like they were 60-70 years ago.
@Soremain yeah it would be like having to explain that men are generally taller than women, or that women generally have bigger boobs than men do. I wish more people realized that the genders being different doesn't mean one gender is inferior. That's like saying apples are inferior to oranges or vice versa.
No I actually play combative sports anyone who says yes does not. You don't see pro fighters or anyone but ignorant non-athletic individuals preaching that.
Anyone who says yes 100$ says they have never played combative sports or probably sports period
@WowwGirl Exactly. As a student and instructor of Shotokan karate, I can say that it is a rare female who take take on the best of the males. In martial arts it is about skill, but physical size and the ability to take a hit (or three) also comes into it. Having said that, I have enjoyed watching a 5'4" South African blonde who had the face of a cherub taking on males at a martial arts tournament and belting the bejesus out of them. At one point, one of the cocky teenage males was running backwards to get away from her. I can understand why she wanted to belt them. - lol
As a matter of fact I've heard that many times, male martial arts practitioners will think twice before sparring with a female partner. They say that female sparring partners will tend to hit harder either because they get carried away easier or because they think they got something to prove.
Just look at the case in point with Fallon fox the trans mma fighter who almost killed a woman in the cage by fracturing her skull.
There is one fight that Fallon actually got beat by a smaller biological woman. In that circumstance the bio woman was a much better fighter and wrestler. She only won by taking fallon down to the ground and controlling the fight.
She knew that she couldn't go toe to toe with Fallon on a striking basis.
Forcing sports that can be fairly segregated to be made coed is not only an invitation for women with broken noses filling up hospitals; it's also a recipe for men under-performing at the sport. It ultimately, inevitably destroys the sport for everyone.
Decent men will refuse to play to their best ability; because natural biological urge programmed by God Himself will make them not want to hurt a woman. So out of fear of going too far, he will go soft. Decent women will also go soft, so as to not want to take advantage of him playing to less than his full potential out of a desire not to take advantage of her.
In the end, they both have to dick around and not play seriously, which leads to mediocrity.
Indecent, delusional narcissists, however, will be sore losers always if they lose, and sore winners if they "win."
The Amber Heard type will know that the decent man feels bad about hurting women, and will take advantage of his desire for decency, and will go to lengths to not only injure him physically; but try to destroy him psychologically. Subjecting him to physical AND psychological abuse. Which will make him less interested in playing the sport, and more interested in holding that bully cunt accountable - whether through desperately trying to get proper authorities to deal with her, or through sheer frustration, whipping out some vigilante justice.
Which will lead to the authority figures turning against him; because admitting that he only did it because they were too incompetent to do it themselves, would result in them having to do the right thing: resign in disgrace from their positions. And they won't have that!
The indecent, narcissistic man, will gloat over his chance to finally domineer over women on a court. Decent women will quickly become easy cannon fodder for this bastard.
Then, there are the Ray Finkles. The It-Things. The "trans"-delusional mental cases that the DNC says are to be worshiped in the culture as if gods. It is a treasure to meet one of them who still has an inkling of basic human decency. But far too often, they are comorbid with other disorders - especially narcissistic personality disorder!
The ones in which #ShowMeTheChromosomeFax reveals them to be biologically female, but they're trying to augment a cyborg dick and feign masculinity, tend to at least know their limits well enough to not cause trouble.
The ones in which #ShowMeTheChromosomeFax reveals them to be biologically male, chopping off their dicks to feign being chicks, tend to have NPD disproportionately more, and more extreme. They will assault everyone equally, cry like toddlers if they lose, scream like 8-year-olds if that doesn't work, and will demand everyone's worship and praise if they win. While being insufferable jackasses the entire time.
These types get sadistic glee out of how many other players they can hospitalize in a single hour - ESPECIALLY true biological women!
It should be a capital crime for Democrats to try to outlaw psychotherapy to deal with these sorts of nutcakes! At minimum, it's abuse of the mentally ill to deny them treatment. To say nothing of public endangerment!
I say no. I am all for women kicking ass in sports. However, I have played many years on ice hockey teams that were all boys/men other than me and sometimes one other girl. Now, women usually don't have problems becoming equals so to speak if they have the skills. BUT, let's say some guy hits me and wipes me out on the ice. All my teammates on the ice would completely lose their shit and start a fight because the guys will be more protective of me than some other male teammate.
So if we want sports to still be about skill and fair play, I think it is better to keep them separate because it creates drama. And another thing. In pro sports, they would travel everywhere together. Players screwing around with each other would be inevitable. The tabloids would be having a blast with even rumors.
Anyone even remotely thinking yes has pretty much zero idea about physical differences between males and females. The skeletal muscle mass of the average male body is considerably more than the equivalent female body. Under similar conditions, the male body can exert significantly higher force and exert a lot more power than a female body can possibly do. No matter what, you just can't get over the difference in amount of muscle. Any sport conducted like that will be just an unbalanced and disorganised event.
have a special co-ed league. I'd limit it to those with human genetics... we gotta have some standards... although sadly, this excludes "Coco the Gorilla" whom with a little practice, could beat all these "humans".
So, I'd also open another league for "other animals", although that term may be offensive to exclude them from humans... it's "humanistic" thinking. Lets have gorillas, monkeys giraff's, dogs play ball. Then can be like roman times and a lot more interesting. That be a real "super bowl".
I think it depends on the sport. I think for a younger age group it could be interesting or at lower levels where the men aren't as athletic.
I like the idea of men and women competing together and I do believe that there are probably a good number of women who can compete with men at the top of their game.
I just worry about there not being enough women talent and sjw's forcing more women in prematurely, causing them to get hurt and then a ton of other issues would probably follow.
I could see mixed gender masketball. Or tennis. I could maybe even see women being wide reviewers in football.
Who knows, maybe one day there's gonna be huge, refrigerator sized women with mustaches squaring up on the defensive line.
If you combine both genders in sports including trans all together it wouldn’t be equal at all, as we have seen with trans women (previously male) that enter woman’s sports, they dominate and the women can’t fight back it isn’t fair to them, we should make a sports division for men (as it is), a sports division for women (as there is already), a division for trans women (they aren’t allowed in the other divisions), and a division for trans men (they aren’t allowed in the other divisions as well). This is the only way to keep sport completely fair to all the people and not give certain teams a leg up, but it is more like 10 legs up.
Hell no! Only a leftard or Feminist, who had been indoctrinated to the point of retardation, would suggest such a thing. Women are smaller, slower, weaker, have less spatial reasoning capability, less able to deal with stress and their ankles and wrists that are much weaker than those of the typical male. To put it another way, put a team of 65kg females on the field against a team of 100kg males for a football game and watch how that works out for the females.https://www.youtube.com/embed/dOdNwG61vGY
There are certain sports that I think could work with both genders playing. Hockey did it once (Manon Rhéaume), I think they could do it again. I think soccer could and baseball (women already play softball which is harder than baseball). I think women could play point guard in basketball with men. I don't think it would be great to have female football players with men, unless they play kicker or punter, but football is boring as hell anyway, let's watch something that lasts 3 hours, but they only actually play 1 hour of it.
Most "men's" sports don't actually stop being from joining. Really it's more technically accurate to say there's "mixed" and then "women's" for most sports, but whatever.
Where it's irrelevant they should be combined. e. g Competitive shooting.
Where relevant you could have weight classes that map a weight class of male to a weight class of female.
But people just don't like it, especially women. Going from aiming to be the best woman at something to being the best overall at something is another level a difficulty which is going to crush so many dreams. People would rather pander to women.
Ridiculous. Women cannot compete with men in sports. There's something like 400 high school boys who have beaten the record set by the fastest women mile runner in history. There are almost no sports where women can compete with men.
They are destroying girls sports in schools by allowing boys who think they are girls to play on the girls sports teams. The girls can't compete and a lot of them are being cheated out of scholarships because of this.
The big loser if mens' sports are combined with womens' sports is the women... and the spectators because they are not seeing the best of the best play.
As nice as it would be for men and women to compete in the same leagues, in most sports, it's just not going to be a fair fight. Men are just stronger and naturally better at sports overall, simply due to the way our bodies have developed. The only opportunity women will have in most sports is the keep separate leagues like we have now. Not trying to be sexist, just a simple fact based on science.
That said, there are a few sports (car racing for example) that women have shown that they can compete with the men. In this case, I think gender diversity in the sport is great, and should be encouraged.
First the women would need to pass the exact same tests as the men for the position they want and be better than all of the men applying. No freebies.
Secondly they can't whine if a 240 pound man elbows her in the face the same as he would a man.. or does whatever else men do to men in the heat of battle.
For some competitions it makes no sense to have the groups divided by gender. Like bowling, archery, chess, diving, that sort of thing. Things where it comes down to individual skill. I think some sports like that should be combined, yes. Others that are more about physically besting an opponent, I'm not sure
If there wasn’t a physical difference amongst the two genders I wouldn’t mind it. But last thing I would want to see is if a woman get hurt just because the man loses his mind of her being a woman and treating her like another player. Where it is is Otay if anything what we should do is broadcast a lot more of women sports with the same agenda as we do with its male counterparts.
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That would just remove any chance of any women ever making it to the top levels of any sport. And would encourage women to take abusive doses of PEDs.
Sports are separate for a reason. Women are slower, weaker, have less endurance, weigh less, are shorter, have lower pain tolerance, have weaker strategic thinking ability, have less dexterity and lesser spacial awareness.
All of which are highly important in most sports.
The only sport I can think of (including shit like chess) where women are objectively outperforming men, is endurance swimming.
Sure combine them. That will ensure the death of women's sports unless we take out merit as a precondition. Then it's just a free for all without rhyme or reason and would be entertaining to noone. But, hey the tranny's will be happy at least, if they are capable of happiness.
In Basketball this would surely be possible. Can't say for other sports personally as I don't know them well enough. In Bball skill is more important than strength. Not many NBA players in history under 6'0 though. That would be the only thing. The ones under 6'0 would probably not do so well with men. NBA avg height: 6'7 - WNBA avg height: 6'0
obviously no. the genders are separated for a reason. reason being, that women stand no fighting chance. pitting a man against a woman with the exact same training, is pretty much like pitting a man against another man with severe doping. it's not gonna be fair. men have significantly more testosterone, which pretty much is natural doping that exists within the male body way more than in the female body and can not be naturally leveled out to be fair.
I don't know about you guys but I was raised to never hit a woman, even if she willingly put herself in the ring I couldn't agree with it. I know women are great athletes, I just don't want to see the aftermath if you put one up against a linebacker in the NFL. It would be great to see both genders compete together or against each other in the no contact sports though, I think the outcomes would surprise many.
Stuff like this is why the "men and women are the same" rhetoric is harmful to women. If we combine men's and women's sports then it will be unfair to women, given the natural differences between men and women, on average. There are exceptions, but exceptions don't disprove the rule, and we shouldn't be making sweeping decisions based on them. It's harmful for the vast majority of the population for whom the generalization is true.
This is so true. I think both men and women have their own specialties. Examples... When there's brute/blunt force involved, men tends win. But when precision is involved women take the lead. Put a man in an environment where he's gotta keep track of multiple things (like children) and they tend to go crazy. Yet women will thrive in such an environment. Ask men to build houses and he'll finish 3 houses in 1 year. Ask a woman to do that, and she'll build ONE house. But when you walk into that house, you'll sell the other 3 houses just to live in that house that the women built cuz they have good eyes for details. So men and women have the same "value" and should get the same "respect". But it's unfair to make em compare skills.
(now lets hope that with my remark, i won't get some "wise-ass" who will try to say that they know better.)
By all means, yes. That would utterly destroy all that PC nonsense about differences between men and women being a "social construct". Even tho there are tons of examples already, but it's always good when facts goes right in the SJW faces.
We should and we can but the conditions for winning shouldn’t be favorable based on genes more common in one gender. They should come up with gender neutral winning conditions. An introduction to new aged sports would be a fun idea.
Why everyone is asking this absolutely idiotic question. Well of course fucking not why even debate about it and give this childishly stupid idea so much importance. I can't comprehend how so many people can be so fucking dumb that they think it's a good idea and think "there is no difference between men and women". How is it even possible for humans get so dumb.
Boxing and mma and most contact sports tbh should definitely be separate these huge athletic dudes train their entire lives and still leave with concussions destroyed cartilage and speech impediments what do you think they’ll do to a woman? Give up? FUCKING MURDER HER!
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I must admit I disliked trans people few years back, because of their self-victimization and desire for attention. Now. I like the havoc they create in girls sports. On the other hand, maybe it's the impulse that women sport needs? As example: No one likes to watch women's soccer, with few trans girls it becomes surely very entertaining. Every boy can be a Ronaldo or Messi, just change your gender. lel
Males and females are physically entirely different. The average male is stronger and fitter (biologically) than the average female. When we go through puberty, women gain fat, where men gain muscle. They're taller overall. Making women compete against men puts them at a disadvantage and its entirely unfair.
I'm concerned about injuries but I've always thought it would be interesting to combine them. There can still be women's teams and men's teams but also have one with mixed genders.
Funny you never see women born with ovaries trying to compete in Men’s sports. But according to Joe Biden’s execute order a full biological male who “identifies” as a woman can compete in any women’s sport he wishes (yes “he”)
im not big on sports but i think that because men and women tend to be pretty different physically it wouldn't exactly be fair but there could be a separate league or something that mixes both genders
She beat a 55 year old who had been off the regular men's tour for years. And who clowned around and didn't take preparation seriously.
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By all means combine them! IF you want the female participants stretchered of the fields/courts. Don't expect the men to rein in their tackles or run/checking on the ball. Its bad enough now when women's international football (soccer) teams get obliterated by local schools male under 15's team in training matches, how bad do you think it will be in mixed teams against full grown men?
@OddBeMe totally irrelevant argument. They play two different positions. It’s necessary for a center to have more size and body mass. Any other dumb comments?
You two have a strange fixation on keeping women in their place.
Jordan, Nash, etc, are smaller and more dexterous which female bball players could also be. So your comment about strength and body mass is irrelevant.
@OddBeMe This was the worst argument I’ve ever heard😂 you just compared women to Michael Jordan and Steve Nash when you can’t even compare 95% of NBA players to them. There’s a genetic gap my boy. It’s rare to find an NBA player under 6 feet and when you do they’re genetic monsters athletically.
@OddBeMe No one said women are lesser human beings. Only that they shouldn’t compete in sports with men. If you think otherwise, you’ve lost your marbles.
@OddBeMe if a male Olympian and a female Olympian race who wins? If a male pro power lifter and a female pro power lifter compete who wins? Obviously a female Olympian would smoke a man who has never been athletic in his life and obviously a pro female power lifter could out lift a man who hasn’t lifted before. The truth of the matter is testosterone gives men a physical boost it’s science it’s proven if a man and woman have the same training then the man will preform “better” but that difference in performances is due to testosterone
we once had a combined boys and girls soccer game in high school. i bumped a girl hip to hip at a decent speed while getting the ball from her. I barely felt it... she broke her leg.
Physical differences would not allow it. Of course there are outliers, and chances are you can find women who are stronger than some men, but on average men are stronger and it would not be fair.
There's so many E. O. s that Biden has already signed that will help destroy our country, and one of them involves this very subject. We separate girls sports from Guys sports for some good reasons
Ok so women will be able to win 5% of the time. That's nice and fair to women who have worked their asses off for years to try to be successful in sports.
Depends on the sports. Like i wouldn't mind if it was baseball, and maybe basketball or track. But for football, wrestling, or other hardcore sport. That should be separate.
Why would we. The 2 genders have distinct advantages and differences towards their own like gender. Men should compete against men and fans with women. Anyone else should seek mental health help.
Espacially in teambased sports i don't think the Sex of the individual matters. So here you can at least try creating a separate league to test how it all plays out.
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Forcing sports that can be fairly segregated to be made coed is not only an invitation for women with broken noses filling up hospitals; it's also a recipe for men under-performing at the sport. It ultimately, inevitably destroys the sport for everyone.
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