I am one of those 1%!
@SueShe indeed. I see several more members of those 1% And Personally i know maybe only one person, who more or less cares about his privacy. That is one in a hundred cases for me.
This is what happens when people "shit" on their own privacy. How unfortunate. And us, who do care about privacy some more will deal with their "what are you hiding?" and their refusal to opt into secure messaging alternatives, that are better anyway.
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Does Google hangouts still exist?
Ya, but you can't video call in it anymore.
How do you communicate with people?
Snapchat. Texting. Fb message rarely.
They’re publicly admitting to storing personal information, chat logs, photos and location.
Interesting 🤔 thats not good 😅
Have them switch over to Signal. You'll all be much better off.
I don't think the new WhatsApp t&c's are really a lot worse than other social media apps @meninaBut the other options are Viber, which I still use sometimes and - especially here in Asia - LineAll 3 are good and have excellent video-call systems (the best thing being the calls are free !)
We aren't talking about general features, we're talking about security and most importantly PRIVACY. Most messengers have awful privacy, and if people can read your private messages, they can be used against you. Things you say and do that maybe fine today could be a problem in the future.
@MrOracle I've never heard about Signal, I don't know if I can use it where I am.
@pierre7i I never said it was worse than other social media apps. I know about Viber but I stopped using it a long time ago. Never heard about Line. I rarely make video-calls. Anyways, thank you for your suggestions. :)
@MrOracle That's all true. But if I don't use it then I'm not going to talk to my friends. Also, I don't have anything that could be used against me.
Maybe you could try another apps like Signal or Telegram.
Those don’t work where I live unfortunately besides good luck to them trying to force me to hand over information to Facebook especially since my Facebook wasn’t connected to my mobile number and also now that I have actually deleted my Facebook account so it’ll be interesting
It was never owned by China."WhatsApp was founded in by Brian Acton and Jan Koum, former employees of Yahoo!." Now owned by Facebook, since 2014.
Their now policy is illegal here anyway
There's signal and telegram.
And they are better?
They will share your data with Facebook and third-parties. This will be your personal chats, where your spend money as what's app is payment app too so forwarding your financial details etc.Even you will be tracked where are you by Facebook even one don't use facebook through whatsapp.
Exactly that has been done for many years so why now the big surprise anyway.
@cnhintonWho checks their email much anymore for stuff not business related?
@MysteriousDarkness Me. I chat all the time via email. Messaging apps confuse everything because I don't what the other person's messenger app is.
@cnhintonDid not kniw people chat back and forth through email
@MysteriousDarkness Email is way more convenient than messaging apps. Email allows you to send emails to other email platforms.With messaging apps, there are too many of them and you can't send to other messaging platforms.
Well, where I live everyone who owns a smartphone uses whatsapp I never had any issue texting people.
How do I know if someone uses Kik, discord, what's app.Email is still more continent. All you need is an email address, and bam.Never has trouble with sending messages.
ask them. I personally never bothered to ask people’s emails.
And then you need to know their usernames. Again, I don't see the issue with emails and just asking for someone's email.
They're now forcing you to share your information with FaceBook, who owns WA. If you don't, you won't be able to use WA anymore. And FB is the worst of the Big Tech companies when it comes to the evil ways they use your data, and who they share it with - and given the actions of the other companies, that's saying something. FB promised they'd never do this (force all users to "opt in") when they bought WA, but obviously they paid WA $18B for a reason, and the reason was to get all of that data - especially all of the relationship data between people based on their contacts and message traffic - and since enough people didn't "opt in", it's no longer optional to share your data - now you MUST do so in order to use or keep using WA.
@MrOracle That is a big deal. I am leery of all of these online companies now. They collect everything that you say and do and they are the same ones who are looking to censor us. Even if they were somehow innocuous someone else can hack into them and steal your information and ruin your life. Insider threats in an age of hacktivism is a huge threat. Someone gets a job at one of these companies and then gathers private online information about specific people. It's not a good situation
That's right. Signal not only uses end-to-end encryption of all communications, but it also encrypts the metadata, so even Signal doesn't know who you talked to or how often or any of that. Employees can't know who you are talking to, etc., so even rogue employees aren't going to be a problem - though at FB, it isn't rogue employees that are the biggest problem.
@MrOracle you are probably right
@AvgbrisbaneguyKik sucks since it is overrun by chat/scam bots which has been going on for a few years. That and how inactive a lot of groups have been. At least that is what I have noticed.