So your saying it's all immigrants fault?
Not really. Its mostly white people attacking white people, its just that they learned it from south Asia probably because they have close ties with it historically.
It isn’t “mostly white on white”. It’s mostly Asian on Asian gang violence and innocents getting caught in the crossfire.
@BruceJender Oh really? Got any evidence to back that up?
I like how he says "Asian" like freaking japanese school girls are going around and throwing acid. Is it racist to mention the religion?
@keenybmr And what would that be? Not to mention you are not that far off:www.washingtonpost.com/.../?utm_term=.8ba38c78ddf1
"The four victims shared much in common. They were all young Japanese women passing through Takasaki, a city two hours from Tokyo"We are talking about the UK. Not Japan. "Asians" used in newspaper articles is a politically correct way of saying migrants from North Africa, Middle east and South east Asia. Please stop.
@keenybmr It was you who mentioned that I insinuated that here were acid throwing in places like Japan based on my choice in saying "Asia" so I simply gave you an example. That said since we are talking about England here there are two major influences in Asia that both has a problem with Acid throwing and deep connection with England. One is India and the other is China.
i think the laws have been toughened up but like you said its about enforcement too... also loads of youth projects have been closed down due to cuts but at least terroresa may has a new jaguar
That's it, politicians care more for their money than for people.
yuup. save a few quid while covering up the towerblocks because it offends the kensignton toffs aesthetic view out of their multimillion pound apartments then even better, burn the poor. ;) sadly for the elite i think that was something that opened the eyes to the whole scam that is trickle down capitalism. i dont think they will last much longer
I'm not so sure, it's been going on on both sides for a long time. Just look at that thing called Blair.
thats why i didn't vote... thankfully there are less and less blairites in parliament every day. he should have been put on trial but i think the left are getting past that and realised the centre ground is no opposition. either way im moving to bulgaria soon anyway. thats how much i hate the system here
I don't blame you, and I hope it works out for you. I should have moved away years ago. I don't vote for them either, they all work for the same thing under thin disguises.
i wasn't clear, since momentum have took control i do vote for them again because it isn't the 1percent in the driving seat anymore but i dont blame you for still being dubious about the whole lot of them. my thing is we just need to get the tory fucks out at any cost for now. its never too late by the way. sell up here and buy a bulgarian house for peanuts and live a good life with the money you save. i kid you not my house with an acre of land cost less than 3 grand including all legal fees. there are thousands of ex pats that have done it and its better than being here just so the government can take it all when you get dementia. look on ebay.. bulgarian properties and you will see im not kidding and the people there? you dont need to ever lock your doors. my neighbours even cut my grass for me and won't ever take a penny. an acre of grass is a lot of work
You make it sound very tempting, but what of healthcare. I have health issues.
well with brexshit does come the killer punch. no healthcare and reduced pension after we come out but unlike the uk bulgarian healthcare is not profit driven so 18lev a month which is about 8quid for insurance or in emergencies you would be surprised just how cheap healthcare is. if you really have an interest though i suggest you plan a trip and stay with some expats. many run super cheap b and bs then you will get to see for yourself and decide from there. just one example though is i will pay my yearly council tax when im over on this trip. its around 12 pounds... for the year. also if clean air and fresch clean food would help your health then its also a good reason to at least have a look
You never know, I might give it a try, thanks.
have a look at least oh and hey the lakes are beautiful too. my place is rural away from the coast and its so pretty. i always had that dream but until i found bulgaria by total accident i always thought it would only ever be a dream
I will certainly look, thanks.
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Uh "most experts agree?" Who? Which studies? I haven't seen any of those.
@Anon-ymous1 Geneva Declaration of Armed Violence and Development. i stated it as one reason. i think it's impossible to say it isn't. i also outlined another reason. also i understand having issues with other posters but your post is going to be removed for targeting a specific person
That doesn't help anyone; pointless. Thanks for nothing dude.
@Anon-ymous1 you can look up their study. you're on the internet so google it... dude
Clearly wasn't referring to that; clearly was referring to the removal of my comment calling out @OlderAndWiser for being a moron and a toddler-- which he is. You're not helping anyone with that.Your study is fine I'm sure, I'll take a look at it.
@Anon-ymous1 sorry... my bad
when you say some cultures does that include the upper class white cunt that threw it in his exes face?
In London the borough where most acid attacks happen is Newham. The largest ethnic groups in Newham are Bangladeshi and Indian. Coincidentally Bangladesh and India are the countries where most of these acid attacks happen globally.
those people are British
Their ethnicities are literally listed in the census. White guilt much?
no guilt at all on my part. be interested to know where you are from though
And that matters because? You said those people are British. Apparently their origin doesn't matter.
i wanted to know so i can take into account where you may be getting your news from. that has fuck all to do with colour or culture but basic geography
I got my information from BBC. You're welcome to turn a blind eye to facts. Thank god most Brits aren't as oblivious to immigration statistics.
BBC is the most biased tv news i the uk. its a government sanctioned channel that didn't even report on syria until two years after the conflict started. nevermind hey. you obviously just go to the playing race card rather than looking deeper. main issues were stated in my reply to the asker but dont let facts get in the way of a good story... i think we are done but thanks for the chat anyway
In London it also exist white male victims of European heritage, so everyone can be an acid victim.
I'm only aware of one culture known for this practice.
@stuntbrain google arther collins... not a very Asian or middle eastern name is it?
One anecdotal example doesn't invalidate the plethora of empirical data
@stuntbrain it was one istance of many but you are obviously another thats happy to not let fact get in the way. thats fine. i was just trying to help but there's no helping some people
Check out @ravedave's link: www.BBC.co.uk/.../5d38c003-c54a-4513-a369-f9eae0d52f91"a breakdown of every recorded acid attack over a 15-year period by age, gender, ethnicity, borough, hate crime and outcome""The suspect was male 74% of the time and victim was male 67% of the time""Just 6% of suspects were Asian""Only one so-called ‘honour’ attack was recorded in 15 years"
Unrelated to acid attacks, though, wasn't it. "Every recorded *acid* attack".
30,000+ gun deaths vs. 2 acid attacks a year
@madhatters4 Gun deaths per year does not equal gun deaths that can be prevented with gun control legislation. Also, if we are talking about terrorism, the valid comparison would be the hypothetical comparison of gun deaths under current laws vs. terrorism deaths by all other means if gun control legislation was enacted.
@madhatters4 12,980 knife crimes in London in London alone. The murder rate in London is actually very close to New York right now.Looking at 2017, the homicide rate per 100,000 population stood at 1.2 in London and 3.4 in New York.
the point is comparing the issue of acid attacks to gun violence is ridiculous because the death rates are drastically different12k acid attacks? 465 last year. 2 deaths. compared to 30k gun DEATHS in the US last year. Yes acid attacks are problematic but relatively speaking hardly the issue guns are in america. there were more murders in London than New York thus far (15 to 11). very selective though to simply compare such a short span of time.
they have banned the sale of acid now but unless they ban car batteries too there will always be the occasional incident
That's the things happy that it's not crazy high as it has the potential to be that but it one of those things that one can't really prevent only react to
Also, someone give my reply to @TheFlak38, please, since he's a moron and a toddler who blocks people who disagree with him (thank you to whoever posts this on his comment for me):Just like mass shootings have become a straight white American male habit. Like, what? Import the first world, become the first world... does that really make any sense to you? If a bunch of young white American males go into a new country, there would be more mass shootings, just because most mass shooters are young, white, and male? No man. Bunch of crap.P. S. You're a moron and a toddler.
I would, but for some reason I can't...
@goaded Could just copy and paste the lower part of it. Thanks for trying though.
No, I meant I was blocked, too.By the way, I disagree with OlderAndWiser, but he's OK.
@goaded Nah. He's a dumbass who wants Internet feel-good points rather than being reasonable in half the things he comments on. So he tells the poster whatever he thinks they want to hear, regardless of whether it's true or not. He's a clown.
U from here also u hit the nail on the head with the gang stuff
@boggboss i know though i think the acid attack was more a jealous ex with access to acid and mental issues. bit like a high school shooting but without kids being able to buy automatic rifles from the corner shop. laughable isn't it the alarm americans show towards this kind of thing over here?
@boggboss is it not like every month or week? but why almost always women?
London is one city. There are 325.7 million people in America.
per capita the murder rate in america is far higher than the uk. i will just google acid atttacks because i suspect you are thinking it happens all the time here when infact it doesn't. the stories are infact over reported because its such a rare occurance
Per capita crime is higher in the United States than Britain, as long as it remains high there will be gun crime.
oh i must be wrong... cnn says we are the acid attack capital of the world so it must be true. i will now live in fear. thanks good old biased google search lol... incidentally its actually india.
Acid capital of the West maybe
well its being addressed by reducing access to acid and using education too. i guess if it was america we would be selling it in bottles to everyone and teaching kids as young as four how to aim properly but that not the way we think here
Actually if you buy minor quantities of certain chemicals homeland security will turn up on your doorstep.
I but I don't see how it's a thing the likelyness that's for bombs though not acid based
i was comparing that reasoning to your gun laws but nevermind, i forget you americans are not so hot on irony. my bad. oh and just so you know thats because of bombmaking just.. same here
@boggboss I dont see how likening acid to guns applies. Car batteries have acid in them. I'm sure other household chemical substances that can be easily purchased can be just as effective.
one... it was me that said that and two... i suggest you re read what i said
I got confused lol can't lie guess I'll stick out to not cause confusion
@boggboss yeah she suggested earlier that yanks have to have guns while the crime rate is high so i said by that logic all us brits should be arming ourselves with bottles of acid and teaching our kids from the age of four how to aim... i think she missed the subtlety of my ramblings but never mind i think im out too. was good chatting though
To the SJW gaylord who downvoted this:www.frontpagemag.com/.../acid-attacks-londons-muslim-no-go-zones-daniel-greenfield
LOL that is the nicest way you could have put it my guy
you do know it has fuck all to do with refugees dont you? i mean its one thing to be racist but another to not actually know what you are talking about too.
İronic because man that called us barbarian is an American who made genocides to native americans.
By the way REMOVE PORK
@BMW_M_POWER americans dont tend to understand irony
@wankiam Islam isn't a race, LOL!@BMW_M_POWER Bringing up the native Americans just shows how little you have to stand on. You should have gone for slavery or even Jim Crow laws, or woman not being able to vote. But you went back hundreds of years, LOL!
islam isn't a race but attracts racist views and the native americans are still under attack today but hey ho. like i said why let facts get in the way. did you even bother to read my reply to the question? was none of that true?
Copy cats?Acid attacks are part of inter-gang warfare and innocent bystanders being caught in the crossfire. Sadiq Khan, London’s mayor, is failing it’s people.
@BruceJender Then every mayor in the world is responsible for every crime in his town/city?
in my opinion , all this criminality is a by-effect of the brexit
Yes its brexit's fault. Leaving the European union made all that acid slip out of their hands. Oh my god you are soooo smart! It probably does not have anything to do with their religious schools openly teaching them hate. No way!
@keenybmr when I read about the first attacks, I looked up who was arrested for doing it. Normal Christian British names turned up.
That obviously means its brexit's fault and ALL other attacks are also by white people!
@keenybmr since brexit there are more attacks against strangers. www.independent.co.uk/.../...-reveal-a7829551.htmlViolence breeds violence
www.express.co.uk/.../Police-arrest-900-Syrians-in-England-and-Wales-for-rape-death-threats-and-child-abuseOh.. You mean people who attack them are not fed up with police who are afraid of being called racist?www.nationalreview.com/.../Its almost as if they are just hateful people and the engineers, doctors and lawyers coming from somalia are peaceful people
@keenybmrHow many British had to be arrested the same year?
Seems like 900 syrians being arrested on charges of rape for the few thousand that came in is a very high % with respect to their population and you are concerned about the British? Why do you hate your own country so much?
The National Review quoting the Mirror... The National Review is going down.
Jesus Christ you are densehere: www.independent.co.uk/.../...ophobia-a7995181.htmlA source from your unbiased superior news company
@keenybmr "campaigners claim" And the Rotherham criminals were investigated and send to court. They are jailed for along time.
It took them decades to stop them why? It seems like you have made up your mind to believe the people who come in are peaceful and your own countrymen are to blame for everything. I can't talk to someone who doesn't listen. Goodbye
@keenybmr Sloppy police work, I guess. It wouldn't be the first time.And your tabloids only print big front pages about the few criminal elements. It sells better.
Ignorant comment is ignorant. Just like the guys doing the acid attacks. You don't beat ignorance with more ignorance.
@Anon-ymous1 Yes very ignorant. It's just a coincidence that acid attacks have become another muslim hobby. Talk to me about ignorance. The irony.
He thinks by being SJW, he will get social brownie points and pussy
By your logic must it happen on every european country because we actually take many in
Somewhere using acid, somewhere knives, somewhere bombs... Why in czech republic and countries who takes less this shitigrants, have less rape, sexual assaults and attacks like yours? They running from their county, but so many of them abusing free pass and no criminal record check, its alerting.If you aceppt just kids, handicapped and eldery. You wouldn't have this problem. But they would be useless for society.. But healthy men and women, who immigrated, are anyway.. becouse they will not work, rather enjoy fat social support check.
Actually our criminal report shows that are lesser crimes than 1993. So I don't know what you rambling about www.dw.com/.../a-43485926
I would with one Google search make your argument looks stupid, but there is no point showing the way to the blind guy.
Guess you too biased
I am neutral, maybe yours criminal reports are biased, wouldn't be first time in Europe.
@LuWe22 I'm sure criminality is also lower than 1892 lol
Odd then how much crime has gone down. Crime here (Netherlands) is considerably lower than in the 1970s and 1980s, while there were far less immigrants back then
@tartaarsaus so crime is continuing to fall since 2008?
@Catholicgirl22 I don't know since when it specifically started to go down.