I meant ""Ask what you can do for your country, not WHAT* your country can do for you." *what = missing earlier
Anyway, it is unfortunate that DT is clearly inexperienced and sucks when it comes to looking for the team players he needs.
He clearly sucks at hiring dependable people in government
From my understand the parties are not in the same place they were 60 years ago and JFK would align more into the Republicans now a days.
YES! ... I knew there was more than one reason I love you Ms DeeDee
@laurieluvsit: :) <3 cf.girlsaskguys.com/.../...2-bf19-1c5448dd75f3.jpg Love this!
ME TOO! :)
@cavmanier You have to go back 70 years, not 60, to get to when the Democrats were the racist party in the south. And these days, Reagan wouldn't be accepted in the modern Republican party; he granted amnesty to approximately three million illegal immigrants.en.wikipedia.org/.../Dixiecratshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan#ImmigrationRe: JFK "Among the legislation passed by Congress during the Kennedy Administration, unemployment benefits were expanded, aid was provided to cities to improve housing and transportation, funds were allocated to continue the construction of a national highway system started under Eisenhower, a water pollution control act was passed to protect the country's rivers and streams, and an agricultural act to raise farmers' incomes was made law."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Frontier
@goaded Well more recently Bush supported amnesty too while Clinton was harder on immigration. It's never been a partisan issue, and I doubt it really is. I suspect most dems (I'll guess 70%+ support a legal immigration only) and may appear much more against Trumps wall and immigration rhetoric because they disagree with him personally and not his policy.
@cavmanier I see what you mean, about the person and not the policy, but I think it stems from an appreciation of the motive/attitude behind the policy.There's a difference between "if you want asylum in the US, come to these places and we'll process your application to see if you qualify", vs. "if you come here, we'll arrest you, take away your children and probably throw out your application".Besides, there is already a barrier, and Mexico was never going to pay for a wall.
@goadedHe has extended his hand out many times to the other side, but I do think he's more divisive than the average president. He clearly doesn't back down and doesn't act polite when pissed.I'm not sure if we'll ever know the nuanced truth of what happened with those people. I mean technically I don't think asylum seekers are even allowed to claim that if they walk through another country. I think they may have been Mexico's obligation at that point. I tune most of it out and hear bits of it on bloomberg (business channel). Who really knows the subtle details that make all the difference for the real context.They can easily add a toll for crossing the border that would at least cover some of it. They just spent 7 billion on a bridge from Oakland to San Francisco and it pays for itself. A wall like that would probably last 50+ years.
The only thing you said that is correct is: "All trump supporters aren’t racist". Please read what @DeeDeeDeVour said.
@dandee55 I’d rather not.
leaving people because of their voting preference is immature
@JellyDonutguy96 what’re you talking about
I'm talking about how you can't say oh I voted for him, or I voted for the other guy,and people can't shrug it off, I'm tired of everything having to be a contentious issue these days
Ideology > logic
Not once, but twice, the Justice Department charged Trump Management with discriminating against blacks through such tactics as telling them that apartments were not available.
@goaded The justice department, as operated by the "Deep State" a "shadow government", which we all know now for a fact exists can destroy anyone and everyone they want to at anytime they want to, with any allegations they want to, even you Mr Goad. Trump, personally, was not accused of such atrocities, as you are trying to falsely mislead people to believe as a faithful follower of the deep state, which you have demonstrated by your ignorance of the facts. Just like the fake media, you attempt here in your post to make ***** (YES, I bleeped it out to be nice!), like yourself, to believe that Trump instructed his employees to prevent minorities from renting space at his properties, when you know for a fact that is not true. Find another post to try and spread your lies and distortions Mr Marxist... and maybe a communist country to do it in, where you will feel much more at home!
I think you're describing Neo-Hydra.
@goaded Exactly... lol.
That's a good point. When a person has 500 businesses, it's hard to have all the employees not make mistakes like breaking discrimination laws. On the other hand, Trump has been seen as doing many things for minority communities. He even has many black celebrity friends. The media is exceptional of taking information out of context though.https://youtu.be/ucTQ2C5CFFQ
@cavmanier The Trumps fought the racism case for two years, settled, then did it again. Of course he knew about it.
@cavmanier Great reply Mr Cavmanier! I don't even buy the premise that any manager of his did that. My dad owns lots of commercial real estate and I have learned early in working with him, to my stunned amazement, that there are a few bad apple minorities that if you refuse their application for "any reason whatsoever" they will immediately say that you are discriminating against them and threaten to report you. We rent to all qualified applicants regardless of race and have all races in our buildings and so does Trump!
@goaded Frivolous cases are frequently settled for the nuisance value, which is the real reason why they are filed in the first place. Oh, but you knew that too Mr spreader of lies, distortions and deceit!
@goaded I'm quite involved in commercial real estate and I can tell you there are tons of frivolous lawsuits from people trying to make a dollar. I'm not saying Trump wasn't guilty, but he was never convicted. Who knows what happened. I find it suspicious that the discrimination only happened at one of his many apartments though. Plus that was a different time. People were not hypersensitive about everything back then. Now a days big time commercial owners like Trump use outsourced companies that allow tenants by blind algorithms because of how easy it is to claim discrimination and how expensive it is to go to trial. There is a reason all big commercial owners use that now. It's because of how common people like Trump were sued. Most these people just want to make money. They aren't interested in discrimination, but they deal with people wanting to make money from them.
laurieluvsit exactly. And if your dad isn't aware, there are now companies that will take all the owners tenant criteria like income, etc, and put that into an algorithm that decides if the tenant is approved which shields liability from frivolous people. The owner isn't involved at all. The reality is people are in business to make money, not be racist lol.
@cavmanier @laurieluvsit You both know that this is Nixon's DoJ that brought the suit against Trump, right? Not JFK's, Nixon's!www.nytimes.com/.../is-donald-trump-a-racist.html"Donald Trump was then president of the family real estate firm, and the government amassed overwhelming evidence that the company had a policy of discriminating against blacks[...]To prove the discrimination, blacks were repeatedly dispatched as testers to Trump apartment buildings to inquire about vacancies, and white testers were sent soon after. Repeatedly, the black person was told that nothing was available, while the white tester was shown apartments for immediate rental.A former building superintendent working for the Trumps explained that he was told to code any application by a black person with the letter C, for colored, apparently so the office would know to reject it. A Trump rental agent said the Trumps [...] discouraged renting to blacks."
@goaded That was attributed to the father. And speaking of fathers, Mr father of distortions, deceits and lies! Isn't there a Marxist communist country that will have you?
I repeat: Nixon's DoJ brought a suit against the Trump family real estate firm, with Donald Trump as president, and then they were found to be doing the same thing again a few years later.The president of a company is in a position to stop that sort of thing from happening, and has a obligation to do so, if only to protect the company from further lawsuits. Donald Trump did not.
@goaded My post stands
I'll point something out. Lets say everything negative about Trump discriminating in that apartment was true.If you ever study real estate demographics in the US, there is a big tenancy I've seen. It's more of a fact than a tenancy. White neighborhoods, areas, majority of white cities, regions, etc. are highly positively correlated with strong employment and income. Those are the two biggest factors RE investors want. They want tenants to have lots of high paying jobs so they can pay high rent. Conversely (this is just a fact) black areas are highly correlated with significantly lower income, lower housing cost and high unemployment. I'll give you one example. Birmingham Alabama is 73% black with double the average unemployment rate 8% (currently at all time historically low for blacks) with a 31k average income and a pathetic 64k average home price. I've studies many of our approximately 400 metros. I challenge you @goaded to find me one majority black metro that is prosperous.
I’m not saying I don’t want them to be prosperous, and I don’t want you to not be able to find one, it’s just always surprised me that I’ve never come across one.Given the fact most serious RE investors are mostly about making money, it’s not inconceivable a investor would try to load certain demographics as an attempt to command higher rent or profits. Investors have lots of creative strategies they use which is why there are anti discrimination laws nows. What happened to Trump was 40-50 years ago and the laws did exist then but they were only about 10 years old. What I’m saying is, if a person uses a strategy that discriminates, it doesn’t necessarily mean they are racist. It may have meant he simply was motivated by the idea of increasing the income and profitability of his business.
@cavmanier I'm sorry, is this supposed to be an argument that says you and Trump aren't racist? Buying and letting properties in high rent areas is fine, so is buying and letting properties in low rent areas, like Hannity did, iirc. But that's not what we are talking about here.The apartments already existed, they were in majority white areas, and they refused to let to people who could afford the rent if they were black. Simple as that.
@laurieluvsit I love your conservative logic!
@BillieJean1070 Thank you Ms Billie :)
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liberals make the kids in the special ed class sound smartLiberals are the "special" ones now
You two reminded me, I was just talking to a nice retired police officer that was talking about how difficult it is to arrest someone in San Francisco and how if a police officer gets cautious enough to where they take their gun out they have to file a report that is monitored by a task force in the city that is trying to minimize dangerous police officers. I could tell he was irritated and he used the phrase "stupid libtards" lol.
I'd love to see a myTake explaining how racism doesn't exist because you don't accept the common understanding of the word "race".You're not wrong to say that we're all one species, but "race", in this case, is defined as "A group of sentient beings, particularly people, distinguished by common ancestry, heritage or characteristics".https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/race#Etymology_2The thing is, I doubt your motives in wanting to argue such a thing.
@goaded First of all, I didn't say that "racism" doesn't exist, but the concept of human "races" is based on a myth. And there's not much use in debating it here, but you've actually given me more material to work with -- not really on the link you gave, but links found on that page. You have to look beyond a definition - to how and why that definition came to be and how it has been used (or misused). I wouldn't have considered doing a myTake or mentioned it above if there wasn't a scientific basis for what I'm saying. Also, did you see what it says at https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/racism#Noun ? "Belief in distinct human races..." So, it starts with that "belief".
OK, now I really would love to see your myTake. It seems you're not going to argue that racism doesn't exist, but that it's just another form of bigotry.
Few sweeping generalizations? As in calling all Mexican immigrants rapist, murderers, and drug dealers? And "these people are not people. They're animals". I dont know about you but that seems pretty racist to me
@availableuponrequest please send me the link to that. I'd like to see the full context.
Uh what context is needed? He wasn't talking about the criminals coming over. He was addressing all of the immigrants coming over from Mexico. This would be the same as asking for context about a cop pointing a loaded gun at a 5 year old black girl (which also happened btw)
@availableuponrequest Come on! He did NOT say ALL Mexican immigrants are rapists, murderers, and drug dealers! And he said the GANG members are "animals". Even if he DID believe that (which he doesn't), he wouldn't be stupid enough to say that. He's not stupid. But it's the liberal media that hates him so much that twists and misrepresents (and outright lies) about what he says.
Oh, and besides, Mexicans aren't a "race".
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best," Trump said. "They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." And that's the same thing people would say about black people during and after the days of slavery. That they're all bad but you'll always find that diamond in the dirt sometimes. there's so many cases where Donald trump has done or said racist shit and the ONLY people denying it and refuse to believe it are either racist themselves or have the mentality that since he hasn't done anything against them he must not be doing it to anyone.
@availableuponrequest I'm not sure why you have a problem sending me a link so I can look into it more 🤔
@availableuponrequest See? He didn't say "all". I thought you might leave off the last part. But that was said during the campaign before he started using a teleprompter and writers. That was him off the cuff, raw and crude -- but NOT "racist".
can you link to anything he has said or done that is racist. anything
I know that’s right ☺️
@Pink2000 Yes it's sad :(
Not MY president. Never have been and never will be.
@Pink2000 if you live in the united states, he's your president. This just goes to show how childish and controliing Liberals are. When they don't get their way they are sore losers.
Like I said. NOT MY PRESIDENT.
@Pink2000 except if you're a US citizen by all legal means he is your president. You can't divorce him or something lol
@Pink2000 if Hillary won and conservatives said "she's not my president" you want have something to say. Stop being a sore loser.
@Pink2000 He's your president, like it or not. QQ
Pastor praises Trump as 'pro-black' at prison reform event www.yahoo.com/.../...tors-191944189--politics.html
Hmm albania huh? do others that live in your country think the same as you about Trump?
most do a driver named his taxi after trump in my countrythere are albanian who think trump is very great
Would you say the majority of Albanians like him? or just a minority?
fascinating. thanks! its enlightening to know how other people around the world think of him
there is a guy here that has created a right wing partyand its talking how Immigration has made Europe weakis that true?
he loves trump really much
well i have heard that there is a bit of a blowback to the EU among european citizens. The immigration problem being among the most heated issue
Balkans are smart
Western Europe is mentally retarded
Best people in the world
yes absolutely a girl who loves Trump is a Girl I'd love,
Why? How? Provide proof.
Questioning my statement? How dare you come to me with that attitude. Bad attitude. Respect me.
Well, don't believe half of what you hear.
@dandee55 So he isn't?
I really don't think so. People like to throw that word around way too much.