Are these the same intelligence agencies that told us there were WMDs in iraq in 2003?
They've been right more often than they've been wrong.
It was a case of lying in 2003.
Right, but usually they are telling the truth. The fact that in one instance they lied doesn't mean nobody should ever trust them again. Trump lies all the time.
So we're supposed to believe them now even though they lied to get us involved in a war that cost the US taxpayer trillions and cost the lives of about 5000 us service personnel and wounded 30,000?
I don't know what the alternative is. Who else are we supposed to believe? An orange man who lied about being two people he was not and report falsehoods to the media?
It's better than believing those that told the biggest lie in US history and lied about arming ISIS.
The lie about WMDs originated with President Bush. As for Russian involvement in the 2016 election, we know Putin wanted Trump in office so he could play puppet master to the president. Hillary is dishonest, but who we really needed was Sanders. And Sanders would have won the democratic primary if it hadn't been bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign
@Pistachio0690 the lie about wmds originated in evidence from the CIA which deliberately lied along with the other inteligence agencies.
Putin probably didn't want Hillary because she armed ISIS and interfered in the Russian elections.
But isn't this evidence coming from the same people that told us that there were WMDs in iraq?
No. absolutely not.
So where is it coming from?
The allegations that Iraq had WMD's came from George Bush's White House, not the intelligence branch.
The inteligence branches fraudulently made up evidence of WMDs in iraq to present to congress and later the UN.
Yepp because of interference from the white house. The intelligence branch actually had true information but it was swept under the rug so that George Bush could have his war.
If that's true then trump should have done the same thing unless the inteligence community fabricates evidence for American corporate interests like in Syria
Well Trump could have done it if he was not so incompetent and stupid but its also harder to do since the last time kicked up so much controversy.
... or it's just lies to start another cold war to further the interests of the military complex and to push harder into Syria to get Assad out and a us friendly goverment installed so they get that oil/gas pipeline built.
If that is what they wanted then they would have done so already. The only justifiable reason things would turn out like this if there was a conspiracy behind it is if they were all incompetent.
The failure in Syria and Libyia shows they are incompetent
Yes. US involvement in Syria is such a shitshow
can't say thats the intelligence agencies fault though.
Regime change is what they do. They armed, trained and funded isis
That is only done on the orders of the white house.
Bullshit it's done in the interests of corporations
That is not how the intelligence agencies work.
It's how American inteligence agencies work.
Nah. They can't do anything that crazy without the white house signing onto it.
Bullshit they do it all the time.
No they dont.
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There IS evidence of INTERFERENCE but NOT COLLUSION.
Ok but think about who manafort owed money to... Haha Russian oligarchs and bank... And Trump tower Moscow, hahaha its all to coincidental hahaha how can you have such blind faith in such an ugly fat orange head who has blatantly lied and done grimey grimey things and hasn't shown us his taxes? Hahahahaha give me a break hahahaha I can't hold it together.
@ryryryan How is any of that proving RUSSIAN COLLUSION? How is it proving that Trump ACTIVELY and KNOWINGLY colluded with the Russians? HOW? Where is the detailed evidence? If Muller can't come up with one, you definitely can't
Hahaha don't worry I'm not convinced either. Also not convinced it's a witch hunt hahaa let the law take its course,
"laundering money through an attorney"? Sounds strangely familiar.Manafort was under FBI investigation due to contacts with Russia in 2014.
@goaded a politician accepting bribes from foreign goverments *cough* * cough * *Hillary* *cough* *Clinton foundation* *cough* * pay for play* *cough*.
@goaded And? The question wasn't about Manafort.
You mean Paul Manafort, campaign chairman of the Donald Trump's presidential campaign team? I see what you mean. Totally unrelated. My apologies.
@goaded yep. Because all the charges stem from before he worked on the trump campaign
All the current ones, perhaps.
@goaded The trial already started, Mr. Soros, that's all Bobby M could come up with.
Isn't the whole thing about the Russian hacking of the DNC that what was revealed was that the DNC engaged in election fraud?
There's more evidence and your answer. Yes there was definitely Russian interference.
Unless they actually somehow changed Trump's and Clinton's total number of votes... Who cares. The media tries to rig every ejection and nobody cares about that. At least the media doesn't lol
Where is the evidence coming from?
No idea. It's a witch Hunt I'm sure