A new medication goes to different testing stages. The ones that get tested on humans are in a later stage. Before that stage they also got tested on animals. To make sure that the drug isn’t completely dangerous. So if u skip the animals before more humans would dieAlso animals are used for other tests than drug testing. They get cloned or get some gene knockouts and stuff. U can’t do that on humans unless u are willing to get multipple crippled children in the name of science
I just think for the most part if people are the ones that want the tests done they should take the responsibility of the test unto willing participants instead of creatures that were never given an option. I understand how and when they use the animals for the most part, but I still believe if they look there are willing people out there, even for the more dangerous or controversial ones. The thing is you have to pay people, its cheaper to use animals, its wrong in my opinion. And like i said death row inmates aren't a bad way to go, we are going to kill them anyways. Some of them would probably be willing for an extension on their life.
Death row inmates are far too less and not every country has death sentence. U need to do mutations on ur kids too. And there wouldn’t be participants if a lot Tests end deadly or with horrific side effects. It is economically not possible to pay people to do it. What u say isn’t realistic but I appreciate ur heart for animals and u wanting to take responsibility. But taking responsibility doesn’t mean being masorchistic towards ur own species lolSo I’m not religious but it’s like the Bible says. We are the rulers over the animals
Let’s look at numbers. 2002 USA had 1million people (those are all prisoners. Not only rapist murderer and the really bad guys) in prison. But needed 17 million animals for tests. So if u do the exact tests with prisoners. A year late a good amount of the prisoners would be dead and the stream of new prisoners is too low to acumsate. Also killing animals might be morally wrong but torturing people to death is morally wrong too and against the law
Well maybe to do it my way isn't 100% possible, but I do feel like more action to lessen animal testing is possible. Most testing is funded by big companies and government, they could pay the expenses of actually paying participants. But I know that's not always the case. And i never said anything about testing death row inmates to death, jeeze just an option to extend their "life" lol
Well u can safe more animals if u and all the other people become vegetarians
I mean it has to he tested on something unless you want then to take chances on people.
im just saying, most testing results are not useable for human bc the man in charge need to fix things to made money, not a better world
Sheesh. They're people too lol.
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That's sounds like some advance computer
I just mean a theoretical computer model. Ie a program that could predict the reaction to each chemical etc to minimize how much actual live testing had to be done. I do think its a couple decades away at this point.
For the same reason you wouldn'twant it to be done on you without your permission? Because it's very painful and cruel? How about an alien specie did it to us because we are far less intelligent?
Animal models are vital for scientific research. Humans simply take far too long to breed and reach maturity, and we have far too many external factors that are nearly impossible to control for.Scientists know what they're doing, and they use appropriate animal models for what they're researching. The mice will actually give you MORE accurate and reliable results in most cases, because it's easy to control for outside factors.
No, you don't we cured cancer in some animals, we can't do it with humand? How is it more accurate? And then, why don't you. volunteer for testing? Maybe you suppose it's painless?
You think so?
You're coming at me assuming that I'm asking from a place of being in against animal testing. Stop assuming.
You are assuming that I am asssuming.,.. stop assuming I just asked is there an alternative? It’s a yes or no question brown eyes
Now you're acting stupid. Sir exit my thread
You’re weird and get triggered too fastThanksBye
"Simple yes or no question" nigga, you couldn't even answer the yes or no question at hand
Fucking stoopid, just dumb.
Can you not use sleezy trashy derogatory terms like ‘nigga’ Thank you
Nigga I did. It's my thread. You can exit, like I said.
Forget saving the animals girl. Can’t even save yourself the dignity to not call people nigga
What does you being a dumb ass nigga have to do with my dignity? Nada.
If you wanna help the animals first be a better role model to others This ain’t the streets lol
Who said I wanted to save animals? I dont care about being a role model to no one. No, it's my thread, and I'll say "nigga" and whatever I damn well please. 34 complaining about a cuss word.
Humans are also terrible for a lot of research because our lifecycles are too long. A mouse reaches sexual maturity in 6-8 weeks. Fruit flies are even faster than that. Imagine how long science would take to perform if something that takes 8 weeks took 16 years.
Well honestly that’s not enough. Also scientists need special mutants with gene knock-outs and special clones
@Dingsbums sure thing. But that might compensate to an extent though.
Lol way to bring your goofy agenda into an unrelated topic
@wiseyoungman My only agenda is to watch the world burn.
That's a good chunk of the population. Are politicians, military people and doctors included in that list of murders?
If they've performed war crimes and or abortions then yeah.
We can grow human pieces in a lab
Not at the scale and price that is needed for making it suitable to testing.
So cloning. You meant to say cloning a full human lol
Same thing. If we grow a brain dead human in a lab, it would be great for testing cosmetics, acne medicine, etc.
Sorry wrong comment lol
So what is your proposed alternative?
My profile picture? And that's shocking on this or any site becuase? Sigh you just reek of a snitch. Ew. Anyways no it's not me, but it represents me. It's one of my favorite movies, even the username references the movie, and I have the same face tattoo. So I said yeah fuck it that'll do. But I never said it was me to anyone sooo what was your propose of telling ME this? I know what I look like captain obvious.
Ok calm down 😂😂 and stay off redbull
I don't drink that shit
Honestly, in this case I tend to not give a damn either way. But I'd say humans are a little more important.
sorry either you or them. in rats or mouse dna i heard they found out they can't get cancer. they are immune to that stuff.
Well isn't that nice. And true rather animals than humans
let me clarify though, i don't think you'd want it to be tested on first, that's just speciesm or whatever the fuck that's called, sadly that's the way we are but if the roles were turned around you bet your ass they would make that same fucking decision.
An animal over a human being? Being in jail doesn't automatically make you up for slaughter or more important less than an animal. And it shouldn't. In my opinion anyways.
Mosts testings on animals are for medication and cleaning detergents. Prisons would actually provide ideal environments to experiment on humans when it comes to nutrition. Today if we want to know the impact of certain nutrients on the body for muscle growth for example, scientists just have to assume the test subjects are eating as ordered to, but there is no way to know 100% what they are actually eating.
Ha what did dogs do?
chase me, caused me to scrap my knee when I was little, bark at me for no reason and their owners think everyone has to love dogs.
In China, they really do eat them and people are trying to banned that and starve these people lol. But yeah I feel em.
They just don't harm the human nature..
Rats and people do share very similar DNA supposedly