Yo Bill Gates is making the vaccine which will be an rfid chip do you really want that in your body?
Thanks for MHO!
Thanks for sharing your Wiser🙂
Right? I cleaned a daycare once and refused to go back. There was notes on the door. One kid had Scarlett fever and nother had, can't remember, but unnecessary... And if you're kids are sick, you fucking keep them home
It would "seem" to be common sense, but it's not. These idiots who are out protesting, and by the way they number barely in the hundreds at most of them, don't understand what they're asking. I DO understand the frustration, and the desperate situations for some, and it's not good. But re-opening too soon isn't either, and it will only get worse. Instead of getting support from the top on down, Bozo has turned it into a war zone within a war zone, and people are dying because of it. It's still difficult to believe what I see and hear.
I've been trying not to... I know have to stay informed... But sometimes just need a break from the madness
Yes, I've limited my "news time" to about 1/2 an hour a day.
Even when I try not to listen. My neighbor calls and tells me anyways 🙄🤷🏼♀️
You are not required to answer every phone call you receive. You know that, correct?
Gee really 🤔 why didn't I think of that 🤷🏼♀️
Perhaps you were having a senior moment?
Oh wow ouch... Good thing I don't offend easy 😥😭🤣🤣🤣
What's wrong with being a senior?
Nothing if you are lol I'm almost there... Don't rush it 🙂
Thank for the MHO. :)
Your welcome. Or was that another senior moment 🤔🤣🤣🤣 jk you had a good answer 👍
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Yes, that's why so many people died of the diseases we now vaccinate against because the immune system is better, people like you are why these horrible diseases are on the rise again.
@Ámayas_20, go for it. Nobody is stopping you from getting all the vaccinations you want. Just don't imagine that you know it all and can force your opinions on anyone else. I'm not anti-vax. I'm just opposed to treating people like farm animals by making profitable vaccines mandatory. The fact is, some vaccines are ineffective and some cause tremendous harm. People take chances whether they vaccinate or not. It's up to them.
As a nurse it's actually not my choice, I have no be vaccinated to you know protect those in my care. While some vaccinations should be optional such as the flu vaccine, although you'll really struggle to convince me that any do more harm than good unless a person has a reaction to the vaccine, childhood vaccines should not. It's child abuse/neglect not to vaccinate.
@Ámayas_20, then why are vaccine manufacturers immune from liability? Why are millions of $ payed out (of our tax dollars) for vaccine injuries and death? For example, Gardasil alone has killed 110 and Injured 25,183.
Do you actually know what Gardasil is? It's one of the HPV vaccines yknow the ones that have borderline eradicated cervical cancer, would you like me to bring up the statistics for cervical cancer deaths? The vaccine also protects women against many other harmful illnesses including other cancers but cervical is the main one. Do you know how many young girls are given this vaccine every year? Such few instances of terrible and tragic reactions are a positive statistic. Please know what you're talking about before you speak.
@Ámayas_20, you sound like a troll for the vaccine industry. Lots of actual experts disagree with you but you already know everything, right. Go ahead and play Russian roulette with your vaccines. I don't care. But I will never support making them mandatory.
@Ámayas_20 I always got my flu shot and whatever in my life but now the things i have seen come to light about vaccines scare me. Heavy metals are used and doctors have come forward and admitted this. There is no reason for a human to be injected with that kind of BS.
@ItalianGuy2021 Actually there is reason, and information on why metals are in some vaccinations is very easy to find, no metal used in a vaccine is at all harmful in the quantities given and you most likely consume them on a daily basis in your food. I understand hearing things like vaccines contain metal can be scary but if you actually took the time to understand what metals, their purpose, and how common it is for humans to consume them any way you'd realise this is a terrible argument against vaccines.
Take it from Ámayas_20. She's a "medical professional". A top researcher in the field, no doubt. LOLBut it sounds like you have already done some research, @ItalianGuy2021. There is lots of information by actual experts about the danger of many vaccines.
@Lliam Nope just a regular nurse, it does mean I know about vaccines far more than the average person though, no respected medical body goes against vaccinations hence why in almost every developed country most children receive them. The 'dangers' you talk about are very rare or completely untrue.
@Ámayas_20, I'll bet money that you've never read the full detail sheet that accompanies a vaccine package. Doctors don't read them. They are never disclosed to patients.
@Ámayas_20 there was no cancer before vaccines and that is a fact if you research that. Now why is that? Because the government is putting stuff in these vaccines to kill us slow. Sure some people seem to be in perfect health because if you set up a roach motel to kill roaches some of them are gonna survive unscathed. That holds true for vaccines as well. All these kids with problems when they are young would not happen if they were not touched by this poison. We are human being not meant to have any man made concoction put in our bodies. I am on a lot of medicines which I need right now but I know they are poison. They are controlling some problems I have so I have no other choice but kids don't need this BS. When you are a newborn in most cases you are in great health. I have seen fake news showing a baby with measles saying there was an outbreak then I saw the same picture used by Israel for a different story. Then turns out that baby in the photo was just a regular stock photo and they added fake measles to it! That is how bad they want to stick kids and they want to stick adults ith the flu shot that actually gives people the flu and some end up dying!
@Lliam Lmao then pay up, for the most part I do know what is in vaccines I'm not saying my knowledge is perfect on every vaccine in existence but I would never give someone a vaccine if I didn't know what was in it and why as many people ask. If a patient wants to read about the vaccine they can ask and it will be provided, they're also plenty of things online that will show you the same information just ensure you're using a credible source.
@ItalianGuy2021 Okay I'm going to deconstruct this part by part, first off I don't know where you read that cancer didn't exist before vaccines but it certainly did I believe the first cases of cancer we recorded were around 1500 BC so I'd learn how to fact check as the first vaccine was used until the 1790s.Nothing in vaccines is killing you, they aren't positions whatsoever I'll go into this in more detail when I cover your point about the flu show. Medications can cause side effects, yes but there is a reason they're prescribed the condition itself is more important to control, scientists are always looking into ways to create medications with less side effects. If you disagree with 'man made concoctions' being given to people you literally disagree with modern medicine among many other things that benefit you on a daily basis so I'm not going to pretend this has any credibility at all, these 'concoctions' have saved more lives than you can imagine.Yes, newborns are usually fine but they're vulnerable, the older they get the more exposure to the world they get the more at risk they are of these dangerous and possibly fatal diseases, to prevent the massive amounts of suffering and death they get a few vaccines very unlikely to cause any harm and they're protected. Continued..
@Ámayas_20 Of course man made stuff is gonna save our lives but that doesn't mean we should all take an injection of something that even our doctor administering it has no idea what is in it! You want me to take the vaccine I want to know what is in it with witnesses that I trust there when it is being made. When you see celebrities on TV saying here watch me get my flu shot they are not really getting it they are trying to trick us. Celebrities don't get vaccines and neither do politicians. We are cattle to them and everything they push in this world is to hurt us. Can we trust the FDA after they allow arsenic in apple juice? Glysophate in cereal and oatmeal? Then they say oh don't worry it is only in trace amounts? Well why would they allow it in the first place? So don't tell me you know vaccines are safe. I read the story of someone who went for his flu shot in Vegas and that same day after the shot he got sick as hell ended up in the hospital with an autoimmune disorder. Doctors believe the flu shot did this to him. I saw another doctor talking he had 1000 patients and these kids developed autism so he started looking into the vaccines. He said he had no idea what was in them but when people came to him with their concerns he found out. He is now anti-vax and also says most doctors have no idea what is in them. People in this world are way too trusting.
This interview contains lots of information, including the insanity of injecting infants with vaccines.www.facebook.com/.../
@italianguy2021 Part 2I can't speak for this individual situation but diseases like measles are on the rise against due to lack of vaccinations. Last year alone the measles killed over 140,000 people most deaths being children under 5 who for whatever reason had not received the safe and effective vaccine about 95% of the population need to be vaccinated against the measles to ensure herd immunity for those with medical reasons not be vaccinated. Okay here we go, the flu shot is actually a good example here as the flu injection vaccination is incapable of causing flu as it's made with especially a dead virus, so your immune system learns what antibodies to produce without ever having the flu. The nasal flu immunisation is different, it uses a very weakened strain of flu virus, it cannot cause flu if you have an already healthy immune system which is why it's only recommended to healthy children otherwise the flu shot is given instead. It's a very common misconception that the flu vaccine can give you the flu, you may have a runny nose or other cold-like symptoms after your flu shot but that is not flu, the flu is possibly very dangerous. I don't know the exact number apologises for that but a very small number of people have died from a flu shot whereas the flu hospitalises between 3-5 million people a year and kills anywhere between 290.00-650,000.
Apparently I am unable to post the interview with Dr. Radhid A. Buttar on Pappa Duck.He also goes into Dr. Fauci's involvement in the illegal development of the Covid-19 virus.
@Ámayas_20 Then how do you explains o many people not only getting the flu but dying after getting a flu shot that was supposed to protect them from it? You have to understand we trust people in the medical field because we are taught to. We put our lives in the hands of strangers just because someone is a doctor they are treated like Gods. They are not Gods and some of them are so incompetent they should not even be treating anyone. I have a doctor and he is actually a good guy and means well but because of him giving me cortisone repeatedly saying it was harmless I ended up with blood clots in my lungs. Every doctor denied it was the cortisone but my hematolgist said any kind of an injection can cause blood clots. Well my doctor didn't tell me this when I asked it it was harmful he said in rare cases there have been ruptures but it hardly ever happened nothing about injections causing clots. Not because he lied but because he was clueless. I am stuck on a blood thinner for probably the rest of my life because a doctor was clueless. I will always be at risk for more. My family doctor had me go for 2 dangerous tests over nothing turns out I was fine. Every doctor I ever trusted screwed me over. Many medicines we are told are safe have hurt people bad or even killed. Vaccines are no different. I am sure you are very educated with all of this stuff but the bottom line is the world is not what it seems it is a system designed to fuck over the masses.
@ItalianGuy2021 Wow okay first off it was proven a very long time ago that you're born autistic you cannot develop autism, again fack checking is free. Celebrities and politicians do get vaccinated very regularly, again I don't know where you're getting your information but you need to learn to fact check.As far as the FDA goes first off it takes a lot more than the FDA's approval for a vaccine to be used on mass it is a very long process. Also, I do believe the arsenic in apple juice is due to arsenic being in soil, water, and many other things you need to grow apple trees it's not allowed because it's being added it's allowed because you can't not have it, many other foods also contain arsenic. Glysophate I do believe is a similar issue it's got something to do with the way many grains are farmed and you'll find it in many other foods. Yeah I'm calling bullshit on your friend's flu shot story harsh reactions to the flu shot are so rare and the fact that it was followed by something we know to be actually impossible yeah bullshit.
@Lliam Dr Radhid A. Buttar is a know crazy conspiracy theorist, he is known to spread false information especially on vaccines. He also believes in chelation therapy this is not a man who can be trusted.
@italianguy2021They don't, the only way to get the flu after a flu shot is if you're somehow exposed to a different strain of the flu than you were vaccinated against, rare but possible. No one sees doctors as gods, people in the medical profession have dedicated their lives to saving other peoples lives and keeping them healthy.Your doctor was not doing his job properly then, or you're lying about his words, this is a rare side effect of certain steroid injections, you should have been made aware of this though. This shows the next part of your statement to be untrue as we've known these injections can cause blood clots for a while, ones in your lungs are extremely rare and I do doubt it actually happened to you but as it's not impossible I won't argue. You really need to stop reading conspiracy theories and actually educate yourself properly about vaccines and how terrible and very possibly short life would be without them
@Ámayas_20, yeah, that's what it says in Wikipedia. And everybody knows that Wikipedia is totally impartial and reliable. Anyone who goes against the official narrative is a conspiracy theorist. They must be censored or marginalized. Funny how many top global experts fall into that category. Big pharma and its paid media cohorts insure it.
@Lliam I'm sorry I've tried to be polite and nice but honestly mate pull your head out of your arse for 5 seconds and realise how stupid you sounds? The vast majority of experts and medical communities everywhere support vaccinations, the rates of the awful diseases we vaccinate against kill less and effect less people the more we vaccinate this is easily proven, vaccines have not been linked to any real harm on a mass scale etc.Also no not everyone who goes against popular opinion is a conspiracy theorist but when they fail time and time again to prove a single word they say but can be disproven by anyone with an internet connection they cannot be relied upon. If you want actual information please stop using such terrible sources.
@Ámayas_20. the "vast majority of experts". LMAO. As a 22 year old nurse, you are no expert so stop pretending. You just sound like a fanatic. What experts to you refer to, Dr. Fauci, Bill Gates, the WHO, the CDC? They all profit from the vaccine industry. It doesn't sound like you've even begun to educate yourself. The benevolent government is your friend. The for-profit pharma industry with its patented vaccines only cares about people's health. Keep your head in the sand. Keep watching mainstream media for expert opinion.
@Lliam I never claimed to be an expert but I do know far more than you and the majority of people, now I know all you listen to is actually insane people online who have no proof of what they say and have literally been disproven by 13 year olds in their comments but you really need to start looking at real information from the experts. If you actually believe vaccines are money makes for anyone you're delusional vaccines represent a very very small amount of the pharmasutical industry and don't really make much moeny, however they do save lives every single day.
@Ámayas_20, you haven't even begun to learn. You don't even try. You're just an ideologue shouting from the rooftops that YOU know the truth. More and more facts and data are coming out about Covid-19. Regardless of that, I doubt if you will ever be capable of looking back and saying you had been misled. Or maybe, when you grow out of adolescence, you'll realize that you weren't as smart as you thought you were. Either way, I don't care, as long as some fuckwit doesn't force others to get vaccinated and microchipped against their will. "My body, my choice."
Factual, balanced information about vaccines. Are vaccines 100% bad? No. Can they pose dangers? Yes. Is there a way to make them safer? Yes. go2.thetruthaboutvaccines.com/.../
@Lliam We were never discussing the COVID 19 vaccine alone, while I have no idea like the everyone if that vaccine is safe because it's still being developed and tested you, I'm optimistic yes but no I wouldn't declare the vaccine safe or not safe right now because we just don't know yet. We were talking about vaccines in general which you claim are a bigger threat than the diseases they protect you from and have been very misled to believe the immune system can deal with such diseases on its own. I grew out of adolescence a very long time ago but thanks for the concern, maybe when you stop using such terrible and unreliable sources you'll begin to lose the stupidity and realise that not vaccinating children who don't have a medical reason not be vaccinated it not only endangering the lives of those around that child but also the child themselves, therefore, it is abuse/neglect. No one is claiming vaccines are perfect we've discussed that yes some people can have an adverse reaction to vaccines and in a perfect world we'd fix this now but we can't all the amazing people developing them can do is keep trying to make them as safe as possible, the truth still stands that vaccines are so much safer than risking the diseases you would otherwise get. The only reason so many unvaccinated people are still alive is the number of people who are vaccinated, unfortunately with people like you spreading more and more misinformation, leading people to crazy conspiracy theorists, and scaremongering people out of the truth is causing more and more children to die, their blood is on your and everyone in your movements hands.
@Ámayas_20 How the fuck are you people still commenting on this post from 4 days ago? Give it a rest.
@Ámayas_20, I never claimed to be an anti-vaxer. I didn't say that all vaccines are more dangerous that the diseases they are meant to control. But you see everything it black and white. You're basically an uninformed idiot trying to pose as an authority. In reality, you are dogmatic. I wonder if you will ever grow up, open your mind, and realize that there is a world of information out there that you willfully ignored.
@Lliam You don't need to claim you're an anti vaxxer, you state vaccines shouldn't be given as their dangerous guess what that makes you an anti vaxxer, you only look at anti vax sources for your facts, and you think leaving children to fight these horrific diseases is safer than vaccines. You used the HPV vaccine as a dangerous example which proves how little you actually know about vaccines and for some reason are convinced vaccines are huge moneymakers when it's a tiny % of global pharmaceuticals.You act like a child when you're disagreed with, ignore legitimate facts, ignore the huge amount of death and suffering that happen without vaccines because of a tiny amount of people poorly affected or tragically killed by reactions to vaccines which no one denies happens and luckily people are working everyday to improve vaccines. The truth of the matter is vaccines compared to what you want are much safer and they've saved more lives than you could ever imagine.
@Ámayas_20. You are hilarious.
Yup, vaccines are perfectly safe and there is no conflict of interestduluthreader.com/.../19019_why_you_cant_trust_the_fda_the_who_the_cdc_the_aap
I'm sorry to hear that
That I do understand. I also know my first daughter was very premature, given a 5% chance of living. Some of those diseases vaccinated against would of killed her if she contracted. Neither of my children ever suffered ill effects from vaccines. And if there's something that can prevent your child from getting sick or dying?
I'm sure it will
poor kid, anyone who ignores the corona situation and puts their kids at risk deserve prison...
Well I'm sure it wasn't the patents fault. The dad was a firefighter so maybe he was exposed to it. I'm not sure how she contracted it. But if they can come up with a vaccine, I'd hope people would really think do they want to risk their children's lives by not giving it to them. There's also been reports of patients In 30's -40's having strokes. With no previous underlying illnesses. This isn't just killing older or immune compromised people like people think
yeah i agree but I mean the antivaxers that are out there... with the case of the firefighter's kid it could have been the kid had caught it through other means yeah i heard of people who are fit as a fiddle dropping dead cos of it... plus the virus is mutating quite quick...
But there's lots of vaccines and less people that die from those diseases that once killed people like polio, Scarlett fever, etc.
Yes I know ☺ but I was referring to the coronavirus one.. I've been watching stuff on youtube. So I'm not sure how that vaccine will go
I believe the youngest people to have died are 5, some may be younger I'm not 100% sure, so yes there is reason to vaccinate your kids against COVID-19
@Ámayas_20 Cases where children have died do exist, but those are extremely rare, and pertain to children in risk groups. This is not about the average child.
Anon, if kids get sick even if it's mild, this is highly contagious so they would be spreading it to other people, staff at school older family members, etc. Everyone should be Vaccinated
Current evidence is children are not a factor in spreading the disease. Getting it from a child is highly unlikely.
What current evidence? I've not heard that statement. So, everyone else who contracts it is contagious, but children wouldn't be? Yeah, I'd like to see the evidence that supports that statement
So you're okay with risking it with kids especially when many kids have health conditions not currently known about that could cause them to get very ill or die from the virus? also yes children are a huge factor in possibily spreading the disease, the reason you're currently very unlikely to get it from a child is they are almost never leaving their hoems right now.
@Ámayas_20 that's right now. They will eventually.
I did state that.
@Ámayas_20 In the industrial world, there are very few children with unknown health conditions. What you're stating is simply not true. Those that should be vaccinated are first and foremost people in risk groups, which are the elderly and people with known risk factors. Other than that, herd immunity will be reached at an immunity incidence of about 60%. Immunity can be acquired by having had the disease or being vaccinated.
Yes, these people should be prioritised but should certainly not be the only ones vaccinated. You clearly know nothing about the industrialised world, many children especially those below school age have underlying health conditions not yet noticed, not to mention during childhood children can develop many health conditions for varying reasons at a higher rate than adults. Do you actually understand herd immunity? 60% is the very limit for the population to be immune for some kind of normal life to return, true herd immunity that will actually protect everybody requires all those medically able to get vaccinated to be vaccinated. 60% is a good goal that will allow us to go back to almost normal life but it still leaves an outbreak in the rest of the population very possible.
If vaccinations are so effective, why are those who get vaccinated afraid of people who don't. Get your damn vaccinations. But when you support mandatory vaccines, you support totalitarianism. Welcome to Communist China or the USSR.
@Ámayas_20 A future outbreak is not going to matter much, if risk groups are vaccinated. Recurring viruses are usually milder, coronaviruses in particular are known to mutate into milder forms, plus more people will have had the disease and gotten immune. Regarding vaccination, there should be two target groups. First, risk groups, second health care workers.
Anon you do know a 5 month old baby of A New York firefighter just died of the Coronavirus? You think if a vaccine was available, the patents wouldn't of wanted her to get? Kids don't need to be Vaccinated?
Anon you really need to check your information out, the coronavirus is possibly fatal no matter if you're in a risk group or not, 60% of the population will not prevent people dying on a semi regular basis and I really don't know who told you that COVID 19 is getting milder but considering we once believed under 20s wouldn't even notice they had the disease if they had no health conditions and now many have died in this age group I wouldn' be so sure of that.
@Lliam The only way to ensure vaccines are effective at stopping an outbreak is for almost all to be vaccinated, if you don't support mandatory vaccines you support the neglect and abuse of children tat may result in their death.
@Ámayas_20, I don't expect you to do any research that extends beyond you preconceived dogma. But I will not march into a box car because you think it's for the common good.
@Ámayas_20 Get your facts straight. What I posted comes straight from epidemiologists.
@Lliam Well I'm a nurse so there is the whole part where I had to get a degree and I have to keep myself updated on changes to anything and everything I was taught that changes to the best of my ability, I give vaccines on a very regular basis and I have to know what's in the, why, chances of side effects and what they are, how effective the vaccine is etc because many patients ask.Your research doesn't extend outside of a few mad people online who believe bill gates is part of the evil vaccine plot.
So what? Some unfortunate individuals who are not in risk groups are going to die. Some could also get severely ill or even die from a vaccine. Herd immunity kicks in at about 60% immunity, regardless of how the immunity was acquired. We need to get there, but not fast than health care can manage. Yes, some are going to die regardless.
You seriously don't believe herd immunity works well at 60% do you? Now as we currently don't know about the COVID 19 vaccine very much I can't say for sure but considering the chances of dying from a vaccine VS even the COVID 19 death rates the vaccine will probably be much much safer.
You'd think so, but 🤷🏼♀️
Can I ask why?
@Ámayas_20 because I don't trust it.
I got that I meant why do you not trust it? We currently don't know a thing about it for sure.
@Ámayas_20 exactly and yet it's still being pushed. Still being rushed. I don't trust the government.
I think you really need to do some research...
@Ámayas_20 I'm immunocompromised, all I do is research lol. I still wouldn't trust it. Great if you do, we'll have to agree to disagree.
You still need to do A LOT more research if you've already written off the vaccine, especially if you're immunocompromised.
@Ámayas_20 sure thing.
You're judging something even the scientists working on it don't yet understand, you are either an idiot or completely ignorant if you think you don't need to look into it more.
@Ámayas_20 so I said I was going to agree to disagree and that was that. Move the fuck along now sis. Thanks.
Wow okay enjoy death
@Ámayas_20 you first.
I'm with you, CHARismatic110. Aren't semi-informed true believers annoying as fuck? In their self-righteous zeal, they would play Russian roulette with other people's lives.
@Lliam pretty much.
and i ain't into that...
I don't think this is just a US problem - for example, there have been some pretty widespread measles outbreaks in different parts of the world the last couple of years - drive by anti-vax movements.
@TCredo Oh god... We humans just don't want to learn do we?
If you'd care to expand, I'm all ears :)
@TCredo I honestly would, but I've done so so many times not only here but on other websites and in real life and I'm tired of it now... Sorry.
Suit yourself. I was just curious your original comment seemed to single out Americans - and I simply said anti-vax movements have and do occur elsewhere too. I'd be curious if and why you disagree with that - but, obviously, that's your call :)
@TCredo What? No, I totally understand that and I can agree with it. It just seems like Americans are the loudest about all this crap, which is why I originally thought it was basically just Americans.
Fair point and fair enough. It does seem Americans tend to be loud about things; especially conversational topics - which is often fueled by American media. So while anti-vax movements are elsewhere, your point is understandable. Cheers.
The parents I agree. Kids shouldn't have to suffer cuz of stupid parents
True but they will. Their deaths may shock them out of their stupidity or at least remove their stupidity from the gene pool.
I don't trust anything the Gov't tells me. Only the college educated fools do. They would jump into a volcano if their Gov't told them to
@888theGreat Meth. It's not just for dinner.
Even if it could potentially save their life? Or the life of others?
98.3% of the people who catch it recover. The ones that don’t have other issues
most people will though
same as regular flu most old people get those
Where do you come up with that number? As of 4/23/2020, the current global cases are 2,658.062. Known deaths are 184,643. That's a 6.95% death rate. If you subtract the annual worldwide seasonal flu death rate, that still leaves at best around 6.8%. As of now, the best guess estimate of infected, asymptomatic people is 20% of those exposed to the virus, not the entire general population. Even when you adjust for another 20% and seasonal flu, the death rate is still 5.63%, so the recovery rate can't possibly be as high as 98.3% ... yet. It may end up that way, but it's not now.