Thugs with guns are thugs with guns. The Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center include the Black Panthers on their lists of hate groups. The black Panthers were violent criminals.
I am pretty conservative but I would support their right to do this as long as I could do it as well. I'm not sure of the laws in effect at the time
@american_centurion That's how big an idiot you are. The passed an assault weapons ban.Can you say the words, assault weapons ban?
@SuccessfulHornDog I don't understand you are missing from what I posted.See? About 40 Negroes — armed with loaded rifles, shotguns and pistols — walked into the state capitol at noon Tuesday. A half dozen went into the Assembly chamber while the House was in session.They identified themselves as members of the “Black Panther Party” from Oakland, Berkeley and Richmond and said they were protesting “racist Oakland police” and demonstrating for the right to bear arms.State capitol police herded the men out of the chamber and took many of their guns away. There were shouted protests and some struggling but no violence.The police took the men and guns to the capitol police office, unloaded some of the guns and gave them back.The Negroes left the capitol about half an hour after entering and just before Gov. Ronald Reagan came out on the lawn to meet some visiting school children.Reagan called the demonstration “a ridiculous way to solve problems.”Assemblyman Don Mulford, sponsoring a bill protested by the Negroes, called it “the worst invasion of the legislature in its history.”Later in history. . .
Yet no one was killed
You're looking at the side of the panthers that was about protecting black people: the BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. The panthers had daily breakfasts for children in neighborhoods. Organized voter registrations. Fought racism. But since they had a stance that looked scary, standing around with guns, which is completely legal in most states, in fancy french berets, people were hooping and hollering!!! ARMED NEGROES!!! WHAT NEXT!!! I think BLM roaming around with guns is counterproductive. Why do they need to have armed patrols of anyone? But the 2nd amendment does provide for AN ARMED MILITIA to prevent a government from crushing its citizens. So, in effect, BLM is the heart and soul of the 2nd Amendment. As long as they roam around with their guns and don't unlawfully shoot anyone, seems that the Constitution protects them... I personally don't want to see armed groups of ANYONE walking around in my neighborhood. It's not necessary. I think it's more of a statement then an actionable issue. Let them let off their steam. The panthers did the same. There were some armed confrontations. I don't know the cause of all of them. I'll dive under my house.
Me, the cats, the anole lizards and the possums. If they shoot my car, then I get out MY SHOTGUN and start chasing them! It's MY hood. You shoot it up, you answer to ME! Yeah black lives matter, but my black car better not be shot up.
@Screenwriter the black Panthers shot two policemen and had witnesses to their crimes murdered. The black panthers were possers with no real substance
I'm not sure what your point is. i support their right to peaceably assemble and carry weapons as long as they aren't breaking any laws. Why are you telling me about the nra, ronald reagan...
@SuccessfulHornDog You didn't seem to know the "laws" in effect at the time. So I provided you the proper context.
I thought what you provided me was how the law changed as a result of their action. Am I wrong? Or was that your intention, to show how they overreacted?Truthfully I dont think it would be any different if 40 white supremacists showed up today and did the same thing. The congressional black caucas, the democrats... would shit their pants and want swift and decisive legislation to prevent that from happening again.
@SuccessfulHornDog I posted you this photo. . . and you pretended just like you didn't see it.Armed "White" protesters have made appearances several times in Minnesota, Idaho, Oregon, Michigan, Ohio. . .I could go on.But it isn't like it matters to you. You guys just make statements that are untrue and move on like you never said anything.
Protesting legally. No destruction of property, zero black neighborhoods burned down, zero murders like the BLM riots, zero looting, zero police shot, zero drug dealing, zero witnesses murdered. Though irresponsible during the Covid19 quarantine like all protests and riots at the moment.
Roland, I am trying to have a civil discussion and I am not getting emotional, but I think that you are. I saw the pictures of the white guys with guns that you posted. Are you telling me that it was the same situation? Was this a known hate group like the black panthers? Did these white men go into the building with their guns to intimidate the people inside like the panthers did? Because I was assuming that they didn't and therefore it wasn't the same thing.
@american_centurion You sure do try.I posted what happened when the Black Panther came to the capitol with assault weapons. The protests in Michigan were against the law. The protesters were not arrested.Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel is warning protesters ahead of Thursday’s demonstrations at and around the Capitol that “there are going to be changes" from the way enforcement was handled at an April 30 protest. The Attorney General's office is prepared to prosecute actions that may not have received the same treatment during the April 30 protest, Nessel said. Among the potential violations her office will address are the brandishing of weapons, trespassing into the legislative chambers, restricting and obstructing police officers, disorderly conduct and disturbing the peace of ordinance violations.
@SuccessfulHornDog Dude, that "you're being emotional" crap is so played. Stop trying to have a civil discussion. Try having an honest one. But, honesty isn't something you guys do.
Black panthers were criminals. Criminals coming to the capital tends to raise eyebrows
You have to commit a crime to be consider a criminal in this nation. Maybe in Mother Russia things work differently.
Killing witnesses, killing cops, dealing drugs is criminal.
What do you mean by "You guys"? you accused me of ignoring something that you posted but you're doing the same.I asked if the white mob is a hate group?I asked if the white mob went into the chamber in the same manner as the panthers as described in the article that you posted.If your not interested in discussing this then let's stop. It's no skin off my nose. I wasn't being a dick to you but you already had your back up. Have a good night
Humans in this nation are responsible for their own personal conduct. Not for the conduct of others. If that was not the case, you would have been arrested a long time ago. It is this concept called individuality.
@SuccessfulHornDog You guys? Are the people who use that same tired argument of emotion. You never acknowledged what my original post to you stated. As for being a hate group, its like you don't know your own talking points. There is no conclusive definition of the term. Sufficed to say, the "Black Panthers" were not considered to be one at the time. And if they would been, the legislation would have been targeted to hate groups. Instead, the legislation banned open carry of assault weapons everywhere. The NRA backed the legislation. They didn't back the limiting gun rights after thousands of "Black" lynchings, the destruction of "Black" Wall Street, or the murder of Emmitt Till.They backed the legislation when the "Black" Panther party marched on the capital of California.
Again back when the black Panthers were dealing drugs, executing witnesses and killing cops
Again, you just post drivel. No proof. Just accusations. Besides, we know the KKK has conspired to commit acts of domestic terror. We can only arrest those who engage in the planning.We can't arrest the entire KKK. It is funny. I can extend to you basic freedoms and rights, that you cannot extend in return.
The kkk have done less harm to the black community in the last 40 years than the black panthers and the BLM
Ah, the last 40 years? You can say the same thing about the Nazis and the Jews. You don't reason very well do you?
Point is the kkk barely exist, gone are the days when 30,000 democrat voters in white hoods freely march through Washington DC.
The point is the KKK have made a comeback. The Proud Boys, The "White" society, the American Renaissance, the Nationalist Movement, the American Front, Identity Evropa, and hundreds of other groups have had a resurgence. Along with just as many anti-semitic groups.
Not the same. The black panthers are listed as a hate group by the southern law poverty centre.BLM members are antisemitic
haha! Which groups have I mentioned are not listed on the SLPC website? You have no problems being proven wrong repeatedly. You are like the little engine that could. And that one day when you are right, is going to be celebrated like 1999.
Roland, you're making a lot of unfounded accusations and I dont see the point in "discussing" this with you. You're not listening to what I post and then you accuse me of not listening to your message. Good night.
@SuccessfulHornDog he does that. Also seems obsessed with race.
@american_centurion Says the racists. Only a racist can decide when people are obsessed over race.LOLx10!!!
@SuccessfulHornDog Yawn, I posted the photo with "White" militants at the Michigan state capital.You pretended like I did not and you ignored my comments on it. So when you acknowledge my point discussion can resume. I don't discuss things with people who are deliberately disingenuous.
... and yet those white militia men including black militiamen never shot anybody, stabbed, looted, robbed, burned down black neighborhoods, destroyed local business, attacked police etc. They may have had a communal barbecue open to all Patriots black or white.
So why is it okay to riot over the Philadelphia Eagle winning an NFL championship. . . and not over police committing murder?Those "Black" and "White" and Asian and Latino and whatever else. . . protesters didn't kill Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, Philandro Castile, etc. The police did. And the only reason why Ahmaud Aubrey killers were brought in, the only reason why Chauvin and the other officers were arrested is because of the public outcry.
It wasn't ok but these multiethnic eagles fans didn't kill anybody. Yes the committed minor property damage, yes the had a giant food fight bug nobody got stabbed. The eagles is a major employer in Philadelphia which contributes to the tax base in Philadelphia and the damage was paid for by local city taxpayers. There was not riots in every major city in the us after the superbowl and eagles fans weren't burning black neighborhoods down."protesters didn't kill Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, Philandro Castile, etc. The police did. And the only reason why Ahmaud Aubrey killers were brought in, the only reason why Chauvin and the other officers were arrested is because of the public outcry." You say but... please print out a list of black people and others killed by rioting "protesters".
Oh neither did the protesters. The rioters in Philadelphia? They were there to do one thing, destroy property because the Eagles won. Its funny that you are actually trying to make that seem logical. As for costs? It cost almost 3 million dollars just to pay the police officers to work. To say nothing of the property damage, loss of business, injuries, etc. And this was not over someone's life or trying to make anything better. It was simply because the Eagles won the Superbowl. That never happened to the Patriots. The protesters against police violence were protesting something people had been marching against for decades. Well confusing protesters and looters is your issue. You don't like the protests, so you confuse them with the looters to de-legitimize why they are protesting. And the rioters, were wrong. They were wrong when they rioted over police violence in the 90s. They were wrong when they rioted in the 60s in the Civil Rights movement. BUT NEVER FORGET POLICE VIOLENCE IS JUST AS WRONG. AND IT IS THE REASON FOR THE PROTESTS.That has to end. And everyone has to get to the point where they accept police violence is wrong. But you are soulless. It isn't like you think violence and death are bad things. They are only bad, when you can use tragedy to convince folks of the Master Race.
Obey the law and you won't be arrested or shot
You mean Breonna Taylor was illegally sleeping?The racist mind is completely fried. But it has to be, to believe that your race makes your superior to anyone.What are you, without your membership in the Master Race?
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Dont think so but I remember the BLM pushing the notion of the bloods and krips patrolling instead of police.
I don't think there was a BLM back then buddy. And I thought that the founder of the Crips was inspired by the Black Panthers to patrol the neighborhood.
The crips patrol the neighborhoods in case anyone deals on their patch or is wearing the wrong colors. They are a scourge in the black community
Right... But I'm saying they initially started because of the Black Panthers.
Black guys have guns as the Chicago murder rate shows
White people are easily scared. You're clearly white, white as a snowcone.
Nothing wrong with that. I've many gun owning black friends, they are legal gun owners not gang bangers.
You don't have any black friends, you probably don't have any friends at all.
You so mean
John Doesn't have any friends. The clue was in plain sight the whole time
@SuccessfulHornDog you don't have a life.
LOL, No, you're wrong. John_Doesnt have a life. I have a beautiful family, a mini mansion, a great job that I love and that pays very well. I actually love my job. How many people can say that regardless of their salary? I can, and it feels great.
@SuccessfulHornDog sure you do, and I have a 13 inch penis and I screw super models every day.
That's great. Then we are both pretty well off
Look at the state of Africa!
@Lost_Spark Liberia is former American colony specifically for African-Americans. It was set up under a good constitution written based on American principles. The difference is African-American people ran the show. They kicked out the police and military under Charles Taylor and it turned into the worst place on the planet. It's the same model and the same culture so expect the same results...
I am all too familiar with what goes on in Africa, it is where I originate from and I watch the documentaries etc.It breaks my heart that I will never go back to my homeland, not even to visit remaining family and graves of those past to pay my respects.Such a beautiful land.
Almost the entire Eastern Hemisphere is a shithole.
@NYCQuestions1976 fuck you fat fuck , die like shit
Aww don't like the truth? Wah. Go dial whine-1-1 and request a wah-mbulance with a side of French cries and a sulk shake in a safe space. Wah.