Guys, are you more upset that girls hold all the cards when it comes to sex, or that the simps allowed this phenomena to happen?

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

I have to say that I'm surprised at the logical comments here, guess the simps are sleeping.

Women only hold as many cards as you allow them to. Self control, making her qualify herself to you, having standards, and expecting more from a woman than just sex / her looks are all part of what every man should be aiming for.

If the average man were to give a woman his phone number, he probably sees it as a way for him having the chance to prove himself to her, when in fact, it's the other way around.

When you can have a woman begging you for sex after a night out and say ''sorry I have an early start, maybe later'' then you know you are on the right track.

Men have been too easy, giving their non sexual and sexual attention for too long. Women have become used to getting everything with zero effort and the result is what you see nowadays... piss poor quality.

Let them work for it, have them qualify why they deserve your time and attention, decide how many cards they can hold, rather than throwing them your entire deck just because she has a bit of lipstick on.

And remember, one of the most powerful words in a mans vocabulary is NO.

[Asker]

Brilliant. I'm glad to see that some guys get it.
I don't know if this is true, but it's something I read, and it makes sense. This is regarding how this phenomena came to be. (Women holding all the cards)

Back in the caveman days, the cavemen only got sex, when one of the females were in heat.
The downside for the female was... she wouldn't be getting much sleep. The cavemen would all be banging her day and night. The upside for the female was... she was the safest creature in the land. A wild animal could sneak into the village and cart off one of the other females, but there's no way in hell that they'd let some monster stand in the way of them getting what they wanted from Lucy!
So over the centuries... the females figured out that they didn't need to be in heat, to allow the males to have sex with them. So the females could have protection all the time if they wanted it. Because they had something the males wanted, and now it was their secret weapon.

[Asker]

So over the centuries, females have learned to hone their craft. They can not only use what's between their legs to get them protection... they can use it to get absolutely, anything they want. They can get a house, a car, a trip... So in essence; women have evolved and most men haven't. Most men/simps, still have the mentality of the ape-man.

[Asker]

So, the smart guy will let the simps fight the dragons and buy liquor for the females... but at the end of the night, she really can't stand simps. She just got what she wanted out of them, and they were happy to give it and be used.
How long have we heard the saying: Nice guys finish last?
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But the simps won't change... they'll just complain, and call women bitches.
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[Opinion Owner]

I think it's true. Women adapted to manipulate and use their mind, whereas men used their braun more. Now we are in a different habitat, it's still similar but as you mentioned, men have not adapted so much.

I've had guys cuss me and call me names just for suggesting they should make women work for sex!

Those memes and graphics are pretty funny.

[Asker]

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It's hard to believe they'd be upset because you gave them good advice. That sounds a lot like this site. I guess change is hard, and evolution is even harder. lol
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[Billlewis]

I'll never complain; the scenario you just described is exactly what I dream of every night.

[Lance1965]

Women hold all the cards because men have been allowing it to happen forever. You see it in many aspects of relationships.

[Asker]

Thank you! It only took 18 hours to get a reply to this, because most guys are completely clueless about what we're talking about! And I definitely see a correlation between you and the other guy who answered... and you both being 50+ years old.
Do you think it's getting worse?

[Lance1965]

Yes much worse. For one example, go through a divorce and see how much power and control the woman has legally. It is all in favor of the woman and most women know this so they get away with bullshit because they know they will win in the end anyway. Have you ever noticed that most homeless people you see are men? I know I am going off topic but it is all related.

[Asker]

So why are all these pansy men allowing this stuff?

[AlphaMale1]

Women mostly view sex in a much different way than men do. Until you understand the "why" you will never really know.

Once you have sex with a woman who loves you the only cards she holds are the ones you gave her. And if she ever uses sex as a way to get things from you then walk away.

[Asker]

Yes, that's all true. But I wasn't really talking about a girl who's in love with you. (All though many wives use their golden pussy to get what they want)
"We either go to Cabo, or I'll have a headache, again, for the next two years."

This question was inspired by a guy I was talking to on another thread.
He said that the boss hires a new girl that's hot, and all the guys around him, turn into to complete idiots. They can't do enough for her. He ignored her, and she ended up pursuing HIM. The sims couldn't figure it out. So as far as the simps, go, in that office.. she held all the cards. This guy didn't give her that option... and she found that to be exciting.

[AlphaMale1]

What that guy did by ignoring her caught her interest. And believe me, it works.

When I was going through my 'male slut' years I became quite successful at picking up attractive women in bars. Here is the M. O. I kept using:

I would go to a bar that had a live country band. It is not as loud in those as bars with rock bands. I would arrive around 11 PM and find a place to sit at the bar where there would be one empty stool between me and a woman. Usually she would have guys hit her up for a dance or buy her a drink. I never bought any of them a drink. Usually in an hour or so it would drive her curiosity to the point where she would strike up a conversation with me. By this time these women were feeling all those free drinks and became easy pickups. They would wake up in the morning in my bed and so often I heard them say something like, "I've never done this before" or, "I can't believe I slept with you" or something of that nature.

[AlphaMale1]

If I would have started talking to her shortly after arriving there I would have been just another guy hitting on her, buying her drinks, etc. These women are used to that. I became the opposite and avoided her till it drove her to talk to me.

There is an old saying that car salesmen have. He/she who speaks first loses.

This didn't work every time. However, it did work enough to where the number of women I have had sex with is above 70 and the majority of those came from playing this little game with them in bars.

[Asker]

That's awesome! Powerful shit.
And I love that line about the salesman. I've never heard it before.
How is it humanly possible that more guys haven't figured this shit out?
Can you imagine what it must be like to be an attractive woman, and know that when you go to the bar you don't need to bring money? You don't need it... because you know the bar will be full of pathetic idiots.

The best salesman I ever encountered, was a motorcycle salesmen. He sold Yamaha's and across the street was a place that sold Honda's. I told the guy that I was on the fence about which to get. (I was expecting him to sell me on the Yamaha, but he didn't. )

He said, that for what I'm looking for, I'd be better off with a Honda. Yep, I bought the Yamaha.
If he'd have pushed to hard... I would've crossed the road. Brilliant!

[AlphaMale1]

It's all a game. He who knows how to handle and toss the dice the best wins.
Everybody else pays the light bill in the casino with their losses lol

[Asker]

True. But I don't even think most guys would even care to know the secret to this.
That girl in your bar analogy... was plied from booze, paid for by other guys. How thoughtful of them. :) But did they learn their lesson? Probably not.

[Billlewis]

It's not the certainty of not getting any pussy that I dread -- it's the virtual guarantee that even if I were somehow permitted to have intercourse with a beautiful woman, I would perform so pitifully that I'd be much worse off than I am by being a celibate wimp.

I think that's one of the misconceptions about simps, that we actually believe we're going to get laid... lol. I mean, I'm sure some of us really believe that we might have a chance of getting some pussy, but I think most of us recognize our permanent pussy free status.

[Liam_Hayden]

They don't hold all the cards unless you choose to play that game.