Would a guy pick an average looking girl over a more conventionally attractive girl?

[Anonymous]

Say there are two girls. Girl 1 is like a 6/10, girl 2 is an 8-9/10, how many guys would pick girl 2 over the other girl? Be honest.

And besides the average girl being “nicer”, if she was, what qualities would make him pick her over the other girl?

[HighValue]

As long as her looks are a 5 or better in my opinion, I'd pick her if she matched with what I want in an SO.

18 to 30 (over 30 equals no interest), hasn't done any hook ups or ONS, doesn't do any drugs (no weed either), doesn't drink alcohol or drinks very rarely and is willing to quit, doesn't smoke, no kids from past relationships, but does want some with the right person, no contact with any ex, once in a relationship won't be posting revealing and flirty pictures online for attention, doesn't try to make NEW opposite gender friends, will be very affectionate with me and she initiates the affection sometimes too, doesn't have an immoral job or one that requires her to spend multiple days away from home (traveling), no tattoos or very few (each tattoo makes her less attractive to me), will exercise every week just like I will to stay healthy and in shape for long term, is not hypocritical, is not greedy (values money and jewelry over handmade thoughtful gifts and is always concerned about something's price to determine how much she likes it), sees special occasions as being for BOTH people in the relationship.
She also needs to agree to a prenuptial where I keep all of my stuff.

Plus she needs to enjoy some of the activities I do outside of the bedroom, like either board games, video games, table top RPGs, riding bikes, watching movies/TV series, or other stuff. We need some things in common we enjoy doing, but she doesn't need to enjoy all of them, just a few is good enough.

As far as looks, be at least a 5 or better in my opinion, such as no pixie cuts, no purple hair (or similar), not covered in tattoos, not fat, not having too large of breasts, and will wear good looking clothes most of the time when we are together (not ripped jeans that look trashy). For examples of faces that I find attractive, that would be:
somesoul Marish01 and beebella. Anything similar to those would be great.

And at this point, nobody that votes for democrats. I won't even allow them in my house anymore. Morals are far too different to ever be compatible for anything.

[Seangreen]

It's not always based on looks all right I fell in love with somebody once like hard big time and I thought she was the most beautiful girl in the world in fact even though I hate her guts right now and I will for the rest of my life cuz in this stuff she did she is visually attractive to me to the point where she still is the prettiest girl in the world in my mind but when people seen her I got responses like that's the most average looking girl I've ever seen in my life my one friend told me like dude that chick straight up ugly what I'm trying to get it at is this people find beauty in what they like or their personal preference and you know sometimes it's not all about looks and sometimes guys don't want to date women that are generally perceived as super attractive because they constantly have to worry about other dudes going after him and no no matter how good of a person someone is is if you are a good looking chick in your dating some average guy and some multi-millionaire starts hitting on her she might kick your ass to the curb and go for the rich guy and if that don't work out she looks good she can go get any f****** simp off the street

[MCheetah]

If personality doesn't matter, then almost everyone would pick the most attractive one. However, personality usually matters the most. So I would pick the unattractive looking chick, Girl 1, if she had an awesome personality. Like being smart, funny, kind, caring, loyal, interesting to converse with, and especially, attracted to me. Or, besides how their face and body looks, I'd also be more attracted to the girl that was taller, which would probably be the hot girl (mediocre girls aren't tall), but still.

Personality is the most important trait when choosing a girl, but if that's not an option, then the better looking one usually always wins.

[MarkyyG123]

No guy is going to chose a girl to settle with if she's been around the block so to speak, sure she'll get the attention but believe me, a guy will only use her for her body and of to the next one. When it comes time to settling, a guy will instinctively look for the female who can build a home, stand by him, choose him/them and you need to understand in all of this, looks only get you so far. Looks fade, beauty fades and what you really want... what a man wants (not a boy) is a female who he can have hours and hours of talking with over nothing, just enjoying each others company

[ArchivalMars2]

Honestly, I'd pick the average girl over the attractive one if she was a pain the ass in immediately. If the average one and I got along better and had more fun just talking and hanging out I'd be with her in a heartbeat. I'd want a functional relationship where I look forward to being with a girl not dreading it.

[DianaWest]

ah, when you say average, are you just referring to face, body, or both? usually when most men say they prefer "average" women with great personalities, they are referring to women with a decent face and a Victoria's Secret figure and 30D boobs.

[ArchivalMars2]

@DianaWest I mean average with both body and face, even dated one girl like that. Short version, she was short height, thick thighs that she hated, guys said she didn't have much of a booty but I didn't care, had chubby cheeks (on her face) but thought it was adorable, long blonde hair, normal blue eyes, boobs where actually kind of small but again didn't care. The reason being was that she made me excited and actually wanted to get to know me. All of it was addicting and I just couldn't help but want to date her.

[Lionman95]

Yes I think that´s possible because if the so called average girl makes me more comfortable being around her I´d prefer her.

[dreamstar72]

Girl one might be a six in beauty, but could be a nine in the personality department.
Where as girl two might be a nine in beauty, but a five in the personality department.
So maybe he pictured girl two as the perfect personification of beauty

[Asker]

What if the 9 had a nicer personality though? Like was a better and more moral person

[dreamstar72]

True, but times perfection in beauty comes at a price.

[dreamstar72]

Sorry times should be sometimes

[emperor90]

I would rather pick an average girl who is kind and caring

[Asker]

What if both were kind and caring?

[DarkWinterNights]

It’s kind of an unwritten rule for guys that you never marry 9’s or 10’s. Way too much drama, they're overwhelmingly narcissistic and lacking personality because most rely on their looks too much. 6-8’s are the one you look at to marry.

[Hellraiser1984]

I would take the average one. I'd want her to be honest loving have a goal in life other than party. Plus a sense of humor that wasn't cruel. And she's not self absorbed like a more attractive girl can be.

[FilmGuy93]

A lot of pretty girls have unbelievably bad personalities.

[Asker]

This stereotype is so not true. Good looking women don’t have any worse or better personalities

[FilmGuy93]

All I can do is speak from my personal experience. Many of the pretty women I've interacted with and dated have had really bad personalities.

[Asker]

Well I’m a model with a good personality. And my other model friends are some of the nicest, sweetest girls ever. I think it’s a myth people perpetuate that attractive girls are assholes. We have a bitch shield, yes, but that’s a defence mechanism to unwanted attention.

[FilmGuy93]

I"m sure you are a sweetheart. But you just have to remember that your fellow ladies have their bitch shields up more often than not, and guys spend a lot of time dealing with that.

[Anonymous]

Let’s not forget we have types. I’m into a very certain look which some may not find attractive but I think is 10/10

[Asker]

Yes but let’s say Megan fox vs Renee zellweger. Like one is gorgeous the other is cute. One is obviously more conventionally “hot”

[zagor]

Maybe she has a better personality, is more interesting, has a good sense of humor, any number of reasons.

Looks are what attracts, but not necessarily what keeps.

[zagor]

Sorry, I guess I saw a "why" that wasn't there at the start of the question.

[anylolone]

Men don't pick, women do.
Men, on average just try with basically any woman.

[bamesjond0069]

If the hot girl is a bitch or a slut she's useless for a relationship.

[Anonymous]

It would be good if guys still dating and pick this and that
Some girls fake flirting just to reject the guy later to boost her dead low self shit esteem

[Anonymous]

All else being equal I will choose girl 2. However, if girl 1 is a virgin and girl 2 isn't I will happily go with girl 1.

[abc3643]

Being nicer. That's it.

[Asker]

Really? What if the 9 was a nicer person

[abc3643]

Take a look at this equation. It sort of sums up attraction.
I am writing this as a straight male attracted to straight females, but it really applies to any two people.

ATTACTIVENESS_GRADE =
PHYSICAL_ATTRACTION *
PERSONALITY_ATTRACTION *
SITUATIONAL_ATTRACTION *
SEXUAL_ATTRACTION *
PARENTAL_ATTRACTION *
PARTNER_ATTRACTION

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[abc3643]

PHYSICAL_ATTRACTION basically means beauty, but it can be more than that - like how she moves. There are lots of women who are traditionally beautiful, yet aren't as physically attractive as other women for any of a variety of other reasons... Does she have a proportional figure? Thigh gap? Butterface? Plus-size model?

PERSONALITY_ATTRACTION is related to her personality. For example, is she being nice, polite, classy, reserved, loyal, avoids drama, doesn't nag, intelligent, etc.

SITUATIONAL_ATTRACTION is related to her situation in life. Does she have baggage like an ex-husband or baby daddy? Does she have kids? Does she have a crazy family? Are we religiously compatible? Does she have wealth or a good job? Does she live in a nice place?

SEXUAL_ATTRACTION means being horny for her and that the two of you have sexual chemistry. Your kinks and fetishes and what each of you is into are more or less compatible. That the frequency and quality of sex are satisfying and give a good release. Sexual attraction is critical when young and also during years of fertility.

PARENTAL_ATTRACTION is somewhat related to physical attraction and situational attraction. Basically, you ask yourself: Would she be a good mother? She may be hot and fun to fuck but do I actually want my kids to look like her? Are we both on the same page regarding having kids and how many?

PARTNER_ATTRACTION is sort of related to personality attraction and situational attraction and parental attraction. Partner Attraction includes skills or special other personality traits which make for being a good partner for getting through the problems in life. For instance, the ability to cook, be smart with money, and not fall to pieces during stressful situations. Can she take care of herself? In short, would she be a good partner? Men want partners, not damsels in distress no matter how hot or nice they are.

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[abc3643]

So, what this equation is is a 6-dimensional hyperbola.
To keep the same ATTRACTIVENESS_GRADE, if you decrease one factor, like PHYSICAL_ATTRACTION (like beauty or "hotness"), then you have to increase another factor, like PERSONALITY_ATTRACTION (like being nice).

However, if you can increase any factor without and of the others changing, then the ATTRACTIVENESS_GRADE will go up.

[abc3643]

* However, if you can increase any factor without ANY of the others changing, then the ATTRACTIVENESS_GRADE will go up.

[diamonddreams]

Sure
Looks are subjective

[Slim57]

That depends on a lot of things.

[Abdulwahh]

A 7 or 8 for me