Chance of death for unvaxxed: 1 in 150
Chance for death or severe side-effects for vaxxed: 60 out of 6 million
Not much. I'll just need to see Biden close the border, because when I see tens of thousands of covid people crossing the border and being welcome here, and shipped to various states, I get the impression that Biden is actually trying to spread this thing rather than stop it. But that's just my common sense kicking in. Something the vaccine sheep don't have to worry about.
Oh, I'd also like to see big tech stop censoring doctors who have opposing opinions to the sheep pushing the vaccine. When I see free speech being shut down in order to push this, it makes me wonder if something's not quite right. There are two sides to every issue, and to silence one side, is sort of... authoritarian. Too dictator-ish for my personal taste.
And can we stop seeing the highest infection rates being among the already vaccinated? If I didn't know any better, I'd say the vaccine is actually helping the spread.
And maybe let's have Biden stop openly talking about trying to break constitutional laws in order to push this little jab. He's currently openly discussing trying to take away state's rights so he can nationalize this. Just a short time ago, people on your side of the aisle, were screeching that Trump has no power to usurp state rights when he wanted to send National Guard to stop the riots in the streets that Democraps supported. But you're okay with this.
That should be a good start.
@Avicenna 100% facts, which is why OP is so upset about it. Even he can't hide that fact, so he attacks the people his leftwing fake news people tell him to.
Yeah, it's all about a political narrative to these people. They don't want to admit that large numbers of those not wanting to get vaccinated are part of their political base even as they politicize the matter as some sort of partisan issue to just let us know for the umpteenth time how much they hate and despise people who don't share their political views.
And, yeah, completely open borders, even during a pandemic, is everything to them, so they don't want to admit the obvious problems that result from them.
If you guys are done going down on each other, maybe read from the liberal rag Dallas Morning News
Even the far-left New York Times admits there's a problem:
And I think local officials in Laredo and McAllen (obviously all Democrats) also acknowledge there's a problem:
So does Homeland Security:
But we're supposed to believe from those who want open borders even during a pandemic that the virus won't be caught or passed by migrants living in tight conditions and who have done or are doing a lot of traveling. The virus is so clever- it can discriminate perfectly and stays away from anyone entering the US illegally.
But don't use common sense, just listen to leftists political hacks who want open borders, no matter what the circumstances.
Odd, do you have a financial interest in open borders?
Odd, at least come up with your own insults instead of parroting leftist propaganda. I know, it's very difficult for dumb scions of segregation and slavery like you, but you can at least try.
Factual evidence from leftist sources has been provided to you to show your propaganda source is wrong. You don't like those facts and being exposed as a dishonest idiot, so you throw a tantrum.
Ironically, you, an admitted racist and a guilty scion of segregation and slavery, has made a fool of himself trying to call someone who was himself once an immigrant and has immigrant family members "anti-immigrant".
You apparently support unlimited illegal entry into the US. I don't. Don't like it? Too bad. You support an illegal policy that endangers US workers and public health and safety. You should be ashamed of yourself.
And I'd still like to know if your company benefits from Biden's illegal open borders policy.
You stated "(Sigh) that’s not where our Covid spikes are coming from. It’s from unvaxxed fckers like you.'"
That's a blanket statement, and we know that it's also being spread by your beloved illegal invaders (no one that I'm aware of said it was solely being spread by them). Look at the conditions many of them are in:
Your status as a scion of segregation and slavery is a part of your identity- it is the source of your extreme white guilt, so extreme you have previously branded yourself a racist who was "trying to do better", which is, frankly, an extraordinary thing to say. And that's something I originated to describe your extreme guilt- unlike you, I can think for myself and don't need to parrot some leftist propaganda to please people who'd hate me anyway because they're racists.
They have entered the US illegally, so "migrant" is actually too generous of a term.
Again, how do you conclude the following: "Chance of death for unvaxxed: 1 in 150"
Odd, you're an admitted racist. You seem to have confused yourself into believing, against all evidence, that the Coronavirus is totally racist and partisan and completely stays away from illegal entrants to the US, instead only finding white Republicans.
Here's some data on who was vaccinated as of Aug. 4th:
But if you want to wallow in your racist delirium, well, it's your life.
I think it would be better if people simply relied on the approval of the medical professionals they know and trust instead of talking about this on political forums.
Lol yeah why are people so stupid? They are spreading the virus!
There is nothing that will convince them. They don't follow the maths or the science, this isn't a position they reasoned themselves into - this is a tribal identifier now. It is how they show their membership and allegiance to their tribe.
You're obviously parroting the Democrats' talking points, as usual. And it's a huge mistake to politicize a public health issue. Where do you get the figure of a 1 in 150 chance of dying if unvaccinated?
People have to decide this for themselves, and there has been a spike in the number of people getting vaccinated lately, so it's clear that letting people think for themselves and make decisions for themselves is the right path.
I really don't get people's argument for not taking the vaccine, BUT it is up to every individual to make their OWN decision as to whether they take it or not.
@goaded I never listen to politicians. I ONLY take my advice from scientists, and I jumped at the chance to take both doses of Pfizer as soon as I was eligible. BUT, I go back to what I said before, I cannot force people to go against any decision they feel strongly about. It is up to everyone to make their own choice even though you and I both know the dangers.
Long Term studies of at least 5 years. You know... The thing that is legal standard for every other drug... Those laws exist for a reason...
Yea and how much “misinformation” is stamped out everywhere.
Any dissenters get banned on social media there is only one narrative allowed
Oh they aren't? So tell me then: when before covid were mRNA vaccinations certified for human use? For all I know there were only ever failed animal tests... And even if it was not a completely untested principle, the 5 years (which was already and emergency reduction from 7 years) still applies. Drugs aren't so easy. You can't just take a process and adapt it to a "new disease" and hope there's not gonna be new issues.
I mean why do you think do former workers who don't gain anything warn from taking this vaccine and only those who earn money with it say that we should take it?
Like the former CEO of Pfizer for example
google the difference between a vector virus vaccination and Rna vaccinations. i'm not going through that with you. too much work.
i don't believe in that "chip bullshit". i just believe we should keep the covid vaccine for what it is. an emergency measure to protect the particularly vulnerable people (70+ with severe conditions)... and not use it like aspirine for the masses as if it was harmless. after all it already killed an alarming amount of people... cause that's exactly how shit like thalidomide/contergan happens... that's why we have those 5 year rules.
yes the side effects of the vaccine are considerably more rare, than the negative effects of covid. but if you give the vaccine to way more people than would ever get covid, you can quickly outnumber that advantage on a societal level and make the vaccine as bad or wors than the disease it's trying to protect you from.
by the way, i'm not sure if you're following international news: but israel who has 90+% vaccinated people is already back to pre vaccination levels of cases and deaths.
i didn't say that the percentage of side effect changes... i said that the total number of people that suffer side effects changes depending on how many people get the vaccine.
easy example: 100 people get covid, 10 die. in this example, only 100 people got covid. not more. so then in comparison: 100 people get the vaccine, 1 dies, which represents the lower percentage of negative side effects. but if you give the vaccine to 1000 people, then 10 die and if you give it to 10000 people it's more than covid killed... again. i don't know if that can happen. nobody knows. cause that vaccine is still so new and not tested. there's no studies about interaction with other medicines. no longitudal cohort data... just a few pilot studies. it may never get worse than in those pilot studies but we don't know that. and we know nothing about negative effects that come with a considerable time delay. like malformations with birth and such...
Full medical costs covered for adverse reactions is a good start
There are a shit ton of adverse events VAERS
Just wait till covid21 comes out and your jab needs updating
People that are vaxxed are getting sick too. People should make the choice for themselves you libtard
Fuckoff shill. “simple math” suck my dick, 1 in 10 chance of dying, don’t suck my dick, 1 in 3 chance of dying
simple math, bitch
I don't think Covidiots comprehend math, or if they do, they will call yours "fake math".
It would take biden, harass, pelosi and you setting themselves on fire
The only opinion from girls was selected the Most Helpful Opinion, but you can still contribute by sharing an opinion!
It is beginning to become clear the vaccine does absolutely nothing but put poison into your system with unknown long-term effects and ulterior motives. This stuff could turn all subjects submissive for all we know or just simply create life-threatening issues over time. Furthermore, it is impossible to prove this vaccine saved a single life, because now even if you receive the vaccine, you still get sick with all the symptoms, and are still a spreader. Say you now recover with having had the vaccine, how do you know you weren’t simply one of the 98.8-99.8% natural recovery statistics instead. Can anyone tell me what the vaccine accomplishes? I heard it reduced symptoms only. Do we have any definitive data that the vaccine has actually saved a life independent of if they would have lived if they just caught covid and recovered naturally within the 98.8-99.8%-tile natural recovery rate, and was able to definitively conclude that without the vaccine said person would have died? No, that is impossible to determine because it is impossible to separate vaccine success from natural recovery rate success when the natural recovery rate is so high at 98.8-99.8%. The whole thing is becoming a nefarious farce.
First off, I had the Covid-19 when it first hit and it was the strongest, and I suffered good, but I always had a tremendous immune system. This was before it became a thing and this is when the highest death rates where ramping. Nobody cared that I was at risk then, because they sent me right into it all. Now all of you vaxxers are so concerned, oh how sweet. My T-cells are well developed for this virus, I have been exposed to it for over a year, and I still am fine, never felt better. The “vaccines” are capable of protecting against one spike protein, I repeat one spike protein and as soon as it mutates, the jab is worthless. My natural T-cells protect against a myriad of spike proteins that will highly likely capture the mutations. Doctors have been warning those that have the anti-bodies absolutely should not get the “vaccine” because gene therapy technology will attack the natural T-cells. I have a friend that also had the natural T-cells, got the “vaccine” and had a 3x symptoms return and this time had to go into the hospital. It appears that mRNA becomes an anti-anti-body and treats T-cell as if they are Covid. He may not have an immune system when it is over. Once that gene therapy is in your system it is there the remainder of your life. The spike protein will affect your health with unknown effects. There have now been tens of thousands of the vaxxed that have developed permanent injury. The following is a major list of why not for me beyond all I mentioned hereto:
1. First time polyethylene glycol was used in an injection.
2. First use of mRNA against an infectious agent.
3. First time Moderna brought a product to market.
4. First time health officials ever warned “expect adverse reaction.”
5. First to distribute with nothing more that efficacy data.
6. First “vaccine” to make no clear claims about reducing infections, transmissibility, or deaths
7. First corona virus “vaccine” ever attempted on humans
8. First injection of genetically modified polynucleotides in the general population.
Everyone’s personal status and health is best known by the individual and everyone should have the right to choose their own fate, regardless whatever turns out to be the full truth as this unfolds in time. Time will tell if the high IQ vaxed or us unvaxed ignorant hicks will continue on.
Additional items brought more uncertainty and risk to light:
UPDATE 7/30 “CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated” https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html Single spike protein protection
Vaxxed are the Spreaders:
Here is the inventor of the mRNA speaking to it: https://rumble.com/vkfz1v-the-vaccine-causes-the-virus-to-be-more-dangerous.html
So per the CDC report combined with the mRNA inventor statements, the fake “vaccine,” an mRNA rather, is permanent and is enhancing the virus replication rate and so you vaxxers are becoming the true spreaders.
It was a Preplanned Conspiracy:
Followed by the why it is occurring at the superficial level: UPDATE: 7/9/21 This is it all taken from US Patent and Trade Office (PTO) tracking, the most credible thing I have seen. “A Manufactured Illusion. Dr David Martin with Dr. Reiner Fuwllmich” It is still up (7/30), so grab it. https://www.bitchute.com/video/L3zryn6Hm86m/ This explains how big pharma and MSM coordinated it all and is continuing. All covid and vaccines traced as early as ~2001, are in the public PTO record including the “variant.”
This is potentially the greatest fraud and crime committed against humanity ever, and we are going to have to live through it. It is Auschwitz being distributed via the needle and then Nuremburg Trials all over again.
Does this help you with your math?
You’re a laugh
Time will tell on who laughs best.
It’s who laughs last.
And research already shows it’ll be the vaxxed.