Would you attend Harvard University if you were qualified to be admitted?

[Kelley1]

This is the second consecutive year that Harvard was found to be the worst college or university for free speech. Its climate of free speech was deemed to be "abysmal."

Harvard University is the nation’s worst higher education institution when it comes to valuing and promoting free speech, at least according to a recently released report that draws on responses from more than 58,000 students across 251 colleges and universities.

Harvard has consistently received poor marks in the annual College Free Speech Rankings from the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) and College Pulse. It ranked dead last in both the 2023 and 2024 findings.

https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2024/09/05/harvard-comes-in-dead-last-in-nationwide-free-speech-rankings/?s_campaign=Email:BComTonight&SUBID=b482944a5d&AUDID=30689078

[HighValue]

I think online college is better for the majority of degrees so people don't have to deal with as much liberal bias and nonsense lies by professors trying to push an agenda. Plus, most places don't care where someone got their degree, they just want them to have the piece of paper saying that they spent enough time and money to be allowed to do a certain job. I say "allowed," because it is possible to learn everything necessary for many jobs without ever going to college, but without the official piece of paper saying they finished a degree, they can't get certain jobs, regardless of real qualifications.

[exitseven]

20 years ago would have said yes but today I would not want to go there. I do not think much of the so called education. It is more like indoctrination.

There are plenty of colleges that give the kids a rigorous education without brainwashing them. I used to work at one of them.

[purplepoppy]

Free speech has lost it's original meaning. It's no longer about openly and debating issues but now rather more about spreading hate and misinformation. Once you allow that in an organisation it becomes an unwelcoming place for minorities and ruin a places reputation.

[Caroline91]

Probably wouldn't have. UC Berkeley was the right choice for me.

[genericname85]

naw. already got a degree from a german uni. one of my close friends has first hand experience as an exchange student at MIT as an engineer and he was shocked how unqualified even to doctorates there were and how unorganized shit was. i guess US elite unis compare to german mid level unis in terms of competence and quality of education.

[Kelley1]

Sadly political correctness and diversation, instead of outstanding education is what elite U. S. universities have turned into.

[genericname85]

yup. and also the fact that the us is fndnig every war on earth but not their national educaiton. the nation is killing itself.

[genericname85]

funding*

[susie22]

I was qualified for Harvard, but I chose MIT because they had a better curriculum for what I was working towards. I never did actually apply to Harvard, but after doing some checking, I know at least 2 people with lower GPA and less qualifications than I had who both graduated from Harvard, one from Law school.

[abc3643]

Most definitely, I would. I can speak freely wherever and whenever subject to legal limitations. But the benefits of a Harvard University education far outweigh any of the inconvenience.

Besides, the Harvard Library has a copy of the 1912 book that documents my family's history back into the 1600s or earlier. My mom lost our copy of "the family book" and Harvard is the only place I know of that has it.

[Kelley1]

Why am I not surprised?

"Harvard, once a great university, is now nothing but a shithole indoctrination center. More money is spent on regulating students speech and use of pronouns than on eduction.

"As the champion of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, Harvard University destroyed itself. Its value resided in its network system. In former times when Harvard was a university, it produced graduates who occupied high ranks in government, business, and media. Therefore, there were many helping hands to elevate Harvard graduates to successful careers. This is what gave value to a Harvard degree.

"But no more. Harvard is no longer prestigious. Those who have been running the former university have damaged its network and therefore the value of the university’s degree. When you bring in year after year members of black street gangs on scholarship, you can’t expect to place them as managing directors at Goldman Sachs, executive vice presidents at General Electric, or executive managers of Silicone Valley tech corporations." PaulCraigRoberts. org

[Dongie]

You go @Kelly1, V S

[elaphe]

When someone describes an institution as a "shithole" they have lost credibility.

[Kelley1]

@elaphe Never when that is the truth.

[chrissykerdock]

@elaphe no they don't she's right

[Dongie]

Kelly is right.

[chrissykerdock]

@Dongie yes she is havard is a shithole

[Dongie]

Cool

[elaphe]

Harvard spends more money on DEI than on education? Seriously? Where exactly are these financial figures? The last time I saw, Harvard spent $1billion on research alone. Do you honestly think that university spends over $1 billion on Dei programs?

[Dongie]

I can see it. The liberal mind is a twisted piece of work.

[abc3643]

@Dongie no it's not. It gave you the world that you have complete with all the benefits.

[Dongie]

No, that would be the devil, but they did help him.

[DJB72]

Only if it was as a tenured professor. Otherwise the woke fucks would fire me before the end of my first class...

[SugarSugarplum]

Let's see. For 2 million dollars, you'll turn me into a useless lunatic? Hard Pass.

[anon1903]

I've learnt my lesson on popular universities so... Nope

[thearchjoker]

No i would not, its way to expensive of a place to go to learn nothing and get shouted at by a bunch if ignorant losers who don't know what their actually protesting for

[ProbablyClueless]

I can't see myself doing that, honestly, but I understand the appeal of why someone would.

[paledreams]

Hmm.
I'm not American. Yet for the fictional question uhhh - I guess so? After all I'd be referring to my 20s not that I'm 30 now I'm too old for having fun in uni lol dorm room parties lol 😆😆😆 I wish.

[Surely]

Of course not. Even if I would have gotten a free ride in my younger days. Kamala wants to talk price gouging. That would be a great place to start!
Besides, they have been in the news for negative reasons lately.

[LiamJHayden]

No. I am content with my business and rental properties.

[Guacamole409]

I'm white, so China probably wouldn't let me attend.

[MicahRaine]

If I could afford it, yes. I love Cambridge and the majority of the community there is great. Also, it would get me good jobs so 👍

[power_wolf]

no I already went to the best engineering university in Canada

[abc3643]

Waterloo?

[TheCaller]

British Columbia?

[power_wolf]

@abc3643 waterloo

[abc3643]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XJBNJ2wq0Y

[Avicenna]

Only the law or business schools.

[Kelley1]

That might work okay.

[WhitneySnow]

Based on a right wing foundation with very specific definitions of free speech

[Consent]

I'm already attending it. Currently getting a degree in Gender Studies. Not sure why anyone would think there isn't Free Speech at Harvard. It's literally the most diverse and inclusive university in America

[Account]

I am too dumb to even entertain the thought.

[Dongie]

Nah. Not even if I was 18 years old.

[jamesgoldman]

Nope

[msc545]

Maybe. I like Stanford better.

[jahaims]

Nope

[MrGSpotHer]

Can have great wealth a power too? 😀

[eagle1951]

not really

[TheCaller]

Nope.

[DrPepper12]

ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY.

[Walksbehindtherows]

Nope. never