How do you feel about things such as visible bra straps or visible panty lines?

[Anonymous]

Personally this may sound kind of weird, but I think they're kind of hot. I can't even properly explain why. Maybe I just like the "authenticity" of it of an outfit that's not totally perfect and has a few flaws. Maybe it's because it gives a glimpse of what a woman wears under her clothes. I'm not sure.

I do prefer women wearing bras over women being braless as well. Again not sure why. Maybe because it gives off a sense of mystery? Not sure.

Hope this doesn't sound too creepy. And to be clear, no I'm not saying women should dress for my attention. They can wear whatever they want, obviously. And I'm not saying I keep constantly ogling a woman's bra straps or panty lines in public either. It's just a sort of hey that looks really nice sort of thing and then going back to whatever I was doing.

[AviatorTom]

Visible bra straps show a lack of caring and organization by the woman. Exposed panties too. There's no reason why we should be subjected to view a woman's underwear.

Panty lines are another story. They just happen, and aren't a problem.

[Asker]

All fair viewpoints. It's kind of refreshing hearing a different viewpoint from a guy after the first 8 guys who replied all expressed neutral to positive views on bra straps and panty lines. 👍

And oh. In this question I was thinking about just the panty lines not the actual panties. How would exposed panties even work unless she was wearing a really short skirt with her legs uncrossed?

But yeah. Panty lines aren't a big deal at all compared to actual panties.

[ManOnFire]

Visible bra straps have always been incredibly hot to me too, especially black ones. Lady in your pic is a very sexy example.

[Asker]

Glad to see I'm not alone, haha. And yeah! She really is! I wasn't even specifically looking for a bra strap photo but when I found that photo I was just sort of like holy shit those sexy bra straps. It also helps that she herself is straight up adorable instead of being just and only sexy.

I found this photo before even thinking to ask this question. But then I was like I have the perfect picture for this question!

[ManOnFire]

Yeah plus I like the way she looks like an every day woman and not one of those Insta hoes loaded with makeup and fake bodies. For some reason I can't help but imagine that she's a 40 something year-old mom secretly having sex with a 20 year-old guy lmfao

[Asker]

Yes, haha. You can see her skin is natural because the moles and very mild acne scarring. Perhaps she has a bit of mild mascara and really subtle lipstick but that's it. And from the photo I can't tell her exact weight but she has rather big breasts and doesn't necessarily look chubby per se but she doesn't look super skinny either. Usually it's very rare for a super skinny woman to have big breasts without surgery. So you can tell her breasts are natural.

And I honestly can't tell what age she is, lol. To me she looks like she could be anywhere between 20 something and 40 something. I'm pretty bad at telling people's ages but yeah. I can't tell if she's a young adult 20 something woman or a middle aged 40 something woman who just looks REALLY good and REALLY young for her age.

[SeriouslyNotSerious]

This is exactly the reason I removed all my bra straps and bought seamless underwear.

[Asker]

Okay? Good for you if that's what you think is best. But I'm pretty sure I'm a minority in finding visible bra straps and visible panty lines hot, or at least I've never met a guy in real life who feels the same.

The thing I've seen men both in real life and online fawn the most over is visible nipples on women but not bra straps.

[SeriouslyNotSerious]

I'm in Asia, men here look at bra straps, panty lines and think the same.

[Asker]

Oh really? Huh. I guess I didn't take that into account. I'm in North America.

Correct me if I'm wrong but are cultures in Asia usually more modest and reserved? That might be why bra straps and panty lines stick out.

Here in North America though we often have women walking around in shorts with half their ass out and no one gives a shit or sees it as odd. So bra straps and panty lines don't stick out.

[MaddyJ]

I do my best to avoid all of them. Underwear should be under and not visible

[Asker]

Completely fair point.

Since you're the third woman here to express a negative opinion on them (nothing wrong with that) and the three men here have expressed neutral to positive opinions on them it kind of proves that common point that women care much more about this sort of thing than men. Lol.

Like women will be completely obsessed with covering them meanwhile men don't care at all or even feel positive towards them. Not saying either viewpoint is correct or wrong by the way. Both are equally valid. I just thought it was funny.

[AI Opinion]

It's interesting how fashion interpretations can vary so widely! Visible bra straps or panty lines can indeed add a hint of realism and casualness to an outfit. For some, they represent authenticity, as you mentioned, while for others, they might hint at a relaxed or effortless style. The personal sense of mystery or intrigue that comes with these glimpses can be quite subjective, and appreciating these small, unexpected details isn't unusual at all. Fashion is all about personal preference and expression, after all! 😊

[Asker]

Wow this is actually a pretty good answer if only a wee bit too formal. I only wish it was written by a human.

[Bitter_Sweet94]

Honestly? It doesn’t bother me.

Visible straps or panty lines are just fabric doing what fabric does.

People move, clothes shift, bodies exist.

It only becomes a “thing” if someone is looking for something to judge.

As long as someone feels comfortable and put together in their own skin,
little details like that don’t reduce their class, confidence, or appeal.

Most of the time, it’s not even worth a second thought.

[Asker]

Wow! I absolutely LOVE your answer! Just pure logic and common sense. Pure logic and common sense that for some reason a lot of people just don't get.

I especially like these parts:

"Visible straps or panty lines are just fabric doing what fabric does."

"People move, clothes shift, bodies exist."

Should be just common sense but unfortunately a lot of people just don't get it.

Humans are 3D creatures so fabric/clothes are bound to shift and move as you move whether you like it or not.

[Bitter_Sweet94]

I appreciate that.

Sometimes the simplest things make the most sense, people just overthink them.

Clothes move, bodies move, nothing dramatic about it.

It only turns into an issue when someone tries to read too much into something harmless.

Glad the way I explained it resonated with you.

[LuciusTheOdd]

Oddly specific clothing isn’t innately attractive to me, I just look at people from that lens, now intention matters much more, so as long as they wear it specially for me, I will think it’s the most beautiful hot thing in the world.


I don’t think too hard about it so I don’t understand it, but that’s just how it is I guess.

[WonderingManII]

I think today's dress standards has gone weird. I really really weird. Not just people dressing weird on purpose to be cool. People demanding that they can just dress however they want without any consequences. The females seem to be the worst at this. They will dress showing as much as their bodies as they can get by with, and still get upset when they notice a man looking at them in public! Sometimes just a glance is too much for some of the most extreme women. :(

[Anonymous]

I do show my bra straps on purpose! I think it looks really cute and improves any outfit. I even try to wear bras in contrasting colors when i wear strappy tops. So black under white or white under black or red under blue

[Asker]

Never heard of anyone doing it on purpose but that does sound really cute actually. A lot of summer options for women especially being sleeveless and all will always show the bra straps by default unless you wear a specific bra like a strapless bra or just go braless so if you don't like strapless bras or going braless your bra straps are gonna show anyway in the summer since summer tops tend to be non-bra strap friendly especially for women with big boobs so might as well get purposefully cute with the contrasting colors than trying to fight it.

[soe11]

• My girlfriend normally do not wear bra with those outfits visible straps.
• But underwear depending upon outfit if to be shown the strings then she does.

[Asker]

Makes sense that your girlfriend wouldn't wear a bra with those outfits with visible bra straps.

Also makes sense that she does if there are strings.

[4ngelic]

visible bra staps are completely fine for many outfits, panty lines are a bit disgraceful

[Asker]

That makes sense. Depending on how well the color of the bra straps jives with the rest of the outfit it can look good.

Panty lines though... yeah, I can't really think of a context like I can with bra straps, lol. All it adds is a line.

[ShivversQuietly]

I don’t want visible panty lines, but as for bra straps… depends on the outfit. I didn’t know they were perceived that way though.

[Asker]

That makes sense. I guess depending on the color of the outfit and the color of the bra straps they could complement each other depending on the outfit.

I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority of perceiving them that way, lol. Or at least I've never met other guys in real life who felt the same.

[Noredcarpet]

I had no idea visible bra straps were sexy, oh well you live and learn

[Asker]

I mean this is a very subjective thing, lol. People have fetishes for even literal feet as well as a lot of other things. Basically any fetish you can think of it exists. People in real life probably won't talk about it but people online will.

[Noredcarpet]

Ah yes, true.

[FunkyMonkee]

Doesn't bother me. Remember: I lived through the early`80's when, thanks to Madonna, underwear became outerwear.

[Asker]

Ah yeah. It also depends on how you grew up, true. I guess we can thank Madonna for that, lol.

[FunkyMonkee]

She and Cyndi Lauper.
In the mid `80's, there were a LOT of goth chicks running around in old petticoats, bustiers', elbow gloves, torn up black pantyhose, black hair ribbons possibly made from black mesh panties. Lots of black eye make-up.

[Asker]

True. It's an out of the norm but attractive fashion style. I appreciate when people do what they want instead of just going with the flow.

[FunkyMonkee]

Me, too. I don't care about what's in fashion, I wear what I wanna wear. I pay almost NO attention to what others are wearing. It might be a big name brand of shirt but, to me, it's just a shirt!

[Asker]

Yes. I don't even pay attention to what people are wearing either unless it's something that sticks out a lot in either the positive direction or the negative direction. I can't even remember what type of clothes my friends and family wear most of the time when picturing them in my head.

So usually that means for the positive direction the woman is wearing something really sexy or for the negative direction the man just looks like a complete and total mess wearing clothes totally inappropriate for the occasion.

[convo_king89]

Bra straps don't really do it for me. I get turned seeing panty lines instead. I guess its more of the fact it not as normal to see her panties. I also love seeing panties showing above her jeans like if she is sitting and the waistband shows.

[AngryCarl2]

Visible bra straps are cool because it's a tell to what colour her underwear is. VPL isn't so good because if she has a nice ass she should be wearing a thong.

[Asker]

That's actually another reason I like bra straps but forgot to mention in my post. To tell what color her underwear is. Hopefully the bra strap color doesn't clash with the outfit. I don't see how you could ever go wrong with black bra straps.

Fair on the VPL even if I don't personally agree that much. Thongs are nice but I also like VPL the same, haha.

[MJVillarama]

Honestly, it’s no big deal, everyone’s human. If it bothers you, subtle adjustments help, but it’s not worth stressing over.

[Asker]

So true! Plus, it's not like men exactly obsess over boxer lines or anything like that, lol. Seems unfair to put so much pressure on women specifically over it.

[queenofcardio]

Sometimes it will still show even if I try to hide it

[goaded]

Madonna shattered that taboo in the 1980s, why is this a question now?

[Asker]

The same reason people might have opinions on old trends such as saggy pants or ripped jeans.

[goaded]

Fair enough. Neither bother me at all, in answer to your question.

[Asker]

Same here, lol. It's just not a big deal.

[Friendlybro79]

I don't care about what other people wear. Its a waste of time even worrying or having an opinion about things like this. Just my opinion.

[MysticDevice]

I actually really like visible bra straps. Just a cheeky peek and what she's got

[Asker]

So you basically feel the as me. To me it's both a cheeky peek and a sense of mystery compared to if she wear braless. I personally like taking off more layers to get to the naked woman so take off the top then take off the bra, I like that progression rather than just taking off the top and her bare breasts being visible right away. Heck even throw in a hoodie and an undershirt to make the progression more interesting and last longer.

[MysticDevice]

Yep thats pretty much how I feel

[Asker]

I'm glad! I feel like we're in the extreme low minority on this. Lol.

[MysticDevice]

I'm not sure we're that low lol. I just think a lot of people haven't admitted it yet

[Asker]

Ah yes. True. As far as "fetishes" go this is a really mundane one. People just don't really go around talking about it regularly because it doesn't come up as a conversation in daily life and it's not something noteworthy to talk about online like foot fetishes or BDSM stuff.

[MysticDevice]

Ah yes thats true. Most of my partners knew I liked it though so they'd let me indulge a bit

[Asker]

Nice. Good to hear. It's a pretty innocent and harmless fetish so no harm done. Similar to if a woman had a fetish for my hands.

[MysticDevice]

Yeah something like that.

I've actually chatted with a woman who had an underwear fetish herself. That was interesting. It seems to go both ways

[Anonymous]

I don't mind if my bra straps show but I will never have visible panty lines.

[Asker]

That makes sense. I imagine visible panty lines are easier to take care of compared to visible bra straps. For visible panty lines just wear thongs or seamless underwear or something similar.

Bra straps are a bit more tricky though. Especially if you have an especially big bust and a bra without straps isn't enough to support you. It's also tricky if you like to wear tank tops, spaghetti straps, or sleeveless stuff a lot. So I imagine in those instances you don't have a choice but to let your bra straps show.

[AGirlNameZoi]

It doesn’t bother me. Especially bra strap. Underwear line as long it’s not out top of pants.

[Asker]

Ah yes. Kind of refreshing to have a different viewpoint from a woman on this question after the first 5 women who replied expressed absolutely HATING visible bra straps and panty lines. 😂

Their viewpoints are equally valid as well but just in general I like to see variety in opinions rather than the same one over and over.

But yeah. I personally don't get why anyone would think it's a big deal. It's just so harmless.

[Nikki1989]

Hate them.

[Asker]

Makes sense. I think most women do. And then most men are just indifferent. Lol.

[236color]

Honestly, I'm indifferent.

[Asker]

Makes sense. I highly doubt most people care either, haha.

[lilBigPotato]

I try to avoid them if possible

[Asker]

Makes sense. I guess it would be the female equivalent of men in saggy pants.

[MannMitAntworten]

I don’t think anything one way or another.

[Asker]

Makes sense. I think that's the common opinion. Lol.

[beenherebefore]

Trashy.

[Asker]

Fair enough. Even though I don't personally agree I feel it's similar to how I might find men in sagging pants trashy.

[robocop666]

hot women can pull them off

[Asker]

Well obviously, lol. Hot people female or male can pretty much pull everything off.

You can put a beautiful dress on an ugly woman and a fancy suit on an ugly man but they'll still look ugly.

Put a potato sack on a hot woman or hot man though and they'll still look hot.

[Anonymous]

It doesn't bother me much.

[Professor-college]

They're very attractive