What do you think the most ridiculous doctrine is that sends CHRISTIANS and other fake believers to Hell?

[Wade12345]

According to Paul Washer, the "Sinner's Prayer" is the number one doctrine in protestant christianity that sends fake believers in God to hell.

Essentially, the fake believer convinces themself that because hey said a prayer one time, or were baptized one time, then they are "saved' regardless of how much sin continues to remain in their lives.

In contrast, the Book of Ezekiel says in several places that if a RIGHTEOUS man turns and does evil, he will die in his sins and his righteousness that he has done shall not be remembered. So according to the Prophets, it's not your "confession of faith" nor a water baptism that saves anyone, but only your good works can save.

The notion that almighty God would "save' you through a false confession of faith is just nonsense.

By my HOnest-toGod estimation, at least 90% of Americans in the past 4 or 5 generations are going to Hell when they die, even though 70% of Americans in those generations have claimed to "believe" in God.

If God is moral and just, he absolutely MUST send these people to Hell, otherwise he'd need to apologize to past generations for judging them so harshly, while not punishing the people of these past 5 generations.

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For people who don't know Christian doctrine... what Pauline Christianity boils down to is Paul actually taught that you could be saved WITHOUT the good works of the law, just by confessing Jesus of Nazareth as allegedly being "God in the Flesh"... even though the Old Testament says 4 different times in 4 different books that GOD IS NOT A MAN.

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Guy13 literally thinks Christians go to heaven just because they are christians, while everyone else goes to Hell just because they are not a christian.

Think about how evil and absurd that claim happens to be!

[Guy13]

May I suggest that you incorporate:
One is justified by faith alone as were both Abraham and David (Romans4:1-8; Galatians 3:6-9), however, faith without works of obedience is alone, therefore, a dead faith.
—James stresses works in (James 2:22-25), as does Paul equally enforce that a Faith can not be earned by works of the law or good works alone. One can not sanctify himself through good works unto justified apart from the world and unto Jesus.
—Being good-hearted, without a profession of faith in Christ Jesus, means the works are dead and one is hellhound

So, if one professes faith alone In Christ Jesus as Savior and Lord, “as God justifies the ungodly (Romans 4:5)”there should be Fruit of the Spirit (Galatians5:22-23-love peace long-suffering joy…) evidenced in their walk.
—If they do not repent (turn away from) their Sin…if they remain in their carnality IT is likely that these are not In Christ Jesus. That being said, people struggle with their Sins but there must be some good Fruit self-evident.

[Wade12345]

Wrong.

In the Book of Deuteronomy, Moses said that God put before you life and Death, therefore choose life by OBEYING the Law.

I have never committed a sin worthy of going to Hell, so Iknow I"m not going to Hell.

I was a christian for the first 36 years of my life, and I now reject Jesus of Nazareth as being a FAlse Prophet. "God is not a man" (Numbers 23:19) and also "God does not change".

In the Book of Ezekiel and Isaiah, the prophets did not tell you to believe in a man. They told you to fight for the cause of the orphan and widow, and Samuel said "Obedience is greater than Sacrifice."

Isaiah said God never wanted a sacrifice, not an animal sacrifice and not a man-god claiming to be "god in the flesh" either. God wanted obedience, and he created every human with the capacigty to obey him.

[Wade12345]

Rabbi Tovia Singer proves Immanuel was not virgin born, and the text doesn't prophesy a Messiah at all.

https://youtu.be/obnjeaSjp6Q

[Guy13]

Dude I have no idea what you are talking about. You obviously are not Biblical Christian and have no idea as it relates to doctrine. You’re like way off the tracks somewhere.
—Are you Jewish or Catholic?
I know you’re not Christian if think what I posted was wrong. I recognize the person you sighted. If I sent him what you called wrong, he would call it Right. Are you Muslim?

[Guy13]

Don’t tell me WRONG and send me a you tube link…. speak for yourself:
Genesis 12 is Abraham’s walk in faith. Genesis 12 is all about Abram following God, in faith alone, and in so doing Abraham became Father of many peoples. And, in believing God through faith Abraham was blessed. Whether you’re Muslim, Jewish, or Christian, all claim Abraham’s faith in God’s Word, as spoken and written in Torah,
—In faithful commitment to Gods covenant promises, Abraham offered Issac as sacrifice to the lord. FIRST THERE WAS FAITH and Abraham’s faith therein led to faithful obedience. It does not get any clearer than that.
-And please, speak for yourself. The clips are useless…. because it’s on the Internet and some guy has an opinion does not make it so. I think you would be better served looking at original languages and sticking to the Bible.

[Wade12345]

Genesis account of Abraham Sacrificing Isaac contradicts other parts of the Torah. Human Sacrifice is forbidden. Taht's how I know Genesis wasn't written by the same man who wrote the rest of the Torah.

I QUIT Christianity because NUMBERS 23;19 SAYS SO. If you read enough of the Torah and prophets, you'll realize they were specifically written to disprove all man-god religions.

[Guy13]

I think there was lingual misinterpretation. I am not saying that God authorized human sacrifice. Clearly, this is not the case even though many do die a righteous death in OT. I apologize if I confused that in some way.
—The whole Jewish state is built upon Abraham, Issac, Jacob, and animal sacrifice. Jesus was the final sacrificial lamb furnished by Father, God (Genesis 3:15). (Genesis 22:1-19) is all about Abraham walking in faith that God will provide a sacrifice as Abraham and the boy left to make tent. God DID PROVIDE an animal sacrifice.
—ABRAHAM HAD FAITH FIRST that God would provide an animal sacrifice. Abraham’s faithful obedience was built upon his faith in God providing child and making Abraham the father of many peoples. Read Genesis 22
—You’re right, man did not write the Torah. Man wrote that other book you are citing. God gave the Torah to Moses which he wrote. I’m going with God and the Bible.
—Numbers 23:19 says God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it? Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill it?
—What that is saying is Jesus the Christ, given of God but in the form of man, is not sinful as God can not lie nor does He require repentance like man. God made the Genesis 3:15 Adamic Covenant as well the Abrahamic Covenant. The Adamic Covenant/Genesis 3:15 was realized when Christ Jesus was crucified, buried, and rose defeating death. The Abrahamic Covenant is yet to be realized.

[Agagagagaga]

“By my HOnest-toGod estimation, at least 90% of Americans in the past 4 or 5 generations are going to Hell when they die, even though 70% of Americans in those generations have claimed to "believe" in God.”

It’s up to God what to do with those people. Your estimation means diddly.

“If God is moral and just, he absolutely MUST send these people to Hell”

And now you’re judging God. And telling Him what He must do.

It is HIS will be done. HIS. Not yours.

[Wade12345]

Have some discernment dumbass. If God said that adulteresses and homosexuals are to be stoned and burned at the stake, that means they die lost and go to hell. That's easily 90% of Americans, before we even count the other sins worthy of death committed by Americans.

Yes, you can judge other people by God's own words, and you can judge God himself by his own words too.

When you have catholics who think it's a woman's "god-given right" to have an abortion, such as Joe Biden, they are on their way to Hell too. He's a mass murderer worse than Hitler himself, and he gets away with it year after year. He's been massacring innocents his entire life, along with the rest of the Democrats.

If Hell is not for the 90% majority of adulterers and baby-murderers, then just who the hell do you think goes to Hell?

lol.

try actually reading the Torah, both of you. You're totally ignorant of the laws of God.

[jshm2]

You're confused.

Technically no one "goes to hell" according to proper Christianity, as Jesus apparently "died for your sins".

The denomination of protestants or Catholics isn't important as they do not follow the scriptures.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

That one and once saved always saved deceives professing Christians that because grace is available you can live however you want and still be saved.

[slatyb]

All of Christianity is ridiculous