Does God care about individual free will?

[AndrésC64]

Christians often say that there is evil in the world because God gave us free will, and he won't interfere because that would be taking away our free will. Do you agree? That God doesn't interfere because that would be taking away our free will.

[jshm2]

It doesn't really matter. It is your life to live or waste as you please.

The judgment for your choices comes at the end. When you have to explain why you made them.

[AndrésC64]

I see. So God is going to judge me for doing things that he knew I was going to do before he even created me exactly as he wanted. Brilliant. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[BarryLiverstone]

Yes God gives us free will. But it’s like a parent and a child. Sure the child can run around in the yard but if the child is about to run into traffic the parent can protect them

[AndrésC64]

Then why doesn't he?

[BarryLiverstone]

Why doesn’t he what?

[AndrésC64]

Stop us from running into the road.

[BarryLiverstone]

Sometimes he does. But also remember the devil exists and can tempt us in our free will

[AndrésC64]

So the devil is more powerful than God?

[BarryLiverstone]

The devil is almost equally as powerful as God

[AndrésC64]

So if it came down to a fight the devil could just as easily win?

[BarryLiverstone]

There is a fight , it’s been going on for longer than we know. Neither can easily win. But in the end God will win

[AndrésC64]

How do you know that God will win? How do you know that he even exists?

[BarryLiverstone]

I have Faith and know He exists. I know He wins because it’s in the Bible

[AndrésC64]

You can't use the Bible as evidence for the bible. The Bible is the claim, not the evidence.

[BarryLiverstone]

That’s why I said I have Faith. Faith is a belief

[BarryLiverstone]

We have discussed Faith on gag before. I’d invite you to do more research. I’m done here, peace bro

[AndrésC64]

Okay not talking about faith. If a child walks out into the road, didn't God allow that to happen?

[Daniela1982]

Sorry Barry, but no created being is as powerful than God, and Satan used to be the Top Angel.

[BarryLiverstone]

That’s why I said nearly as powerful

[Daniela1982]

Because the kid has free will too to run into the road or not.

[AndrésC64]

@Daniela1982 You really are sick in the head. Is that what you would do with your kid? Just let him run into the road and get flattened by a semi?

"Oh well, he was exercising his free will. And I did tell him not to. So I'll just stand by and watch him die."

I certainly wish that you don't have children and never do if that's your kind of attitude.

[annabananna]

Yes, I agree. He wants us to follow him and do good because it’s in our heart not because we are forced to be and act a certain way.

[menina]

I'm not Christian, so I don't think I can't answer that question.

[Guardian45]

That's Fing Bullfeathers!
'God' is a crock! Either they are dead, doesn't care about us, or never existed in the first place. Bottomline, there is NO God!

[Daniela1982]

Boo on that one Guardian. If you had a girl who didn't care about you, would you care for her? So why should God do anything for people who don't believe he even exists or even care if he does?

[AndrésC64]

@Daniela1982 If you had a child that didn't care about you, would you just stand by and watch them die?

[Guardian45]

@AndrésC64. EXACTLY! @Daniela1982. I have seen TOO MANY instances where 'God' abandoned his post over the innocent and helpless. There is NO God!

[Daniela1982]

@guardian45Why do you and @AndrésC64 refuse to understand that it is man who are the ones screwing things up. WE are the one's killing each other over a sq foot of ground. WE are the ones who are screwing up our environment and polluting our planet. WE are the ones who cannot seem to live without wars. WE are the ones that have screwed ourselves. We just blame God because we are too screwed up to blame ourselves.

[Guardian45]

@Daniela1982. I'm speaking from personal experience witnessing innocent victims/patients dying needlessly WITHOUT His Divine Hand!

[Guardian45]

That's Fed Up!

[AndrésC64]

@Daniela1982 And why can't you understand that allowing your children to die in horrible ways and then watching them be tortured for eternity is effed up as @Guardian45 said. Do you have children? Would you stand by and just watch them and watch them die horrible deaths? Would you then stand by and watch as they were tortured? What would you say about someone that stood by and watched as others were killed? What did you say about anyone, let alone a parent that stood by and watched as their children were tortured?

[AndrésC64]

And stop trying to change the subject. We aren't talking about pollution or wars. We're talking about children dying of starvation, cancer, war, disease... We're talking about children being sold into the sex trade. We're talking about children being raped. These are all innocent children.

If you had a child that didn't care about you, would you just stand by and watch them die? Would you stand by and watch them be tortured?

[smølf]

In part yes, however it's about justice, oddly enough.

[AndrésC64]

How is justice involved with justice and whether God interferes or not?

[smølf]

A long story, but it's kinda the core of the bible, why God have permitted evil and injustice for a while, but only a while for a reason.

[AndrésC64]

Then he's not really concerned about free will.

[smølf]

Freewill is the cause of the rebellion against Jehovah's sovereignty, and freewill is protected and the cause of evil and current injustices. But in the end, God vil not allow the evil and current injustices to continue indefinitely.

Essentially God vil end it all, most likely within the next 1 - 20 years or so, the last prophecies are being fulfilled as we speak and soon enough.

Obviously, you won't believe it or God until you face it here on earth in your lifetime, but that's your choice.

[AndrésC64]

But if God is so concerned about free will, why does he allow it to be violated?

[smølf]

@AndrésC64
It's never violated, by like the police and the law of land have limits to our freedom so does God holds up accountable and in the end, sentences us according to the law. Of course the grace of God, Jesus was sent to pay off the wage of sine, but that's another story.

[AndrésC64]

Free will is never violated by the police? Really?

[AndrésC64]

Why does God choose the side of evil?

[Still-alive]

He cares about how i touch myself a little too long in the bathroom smh

[R85tbbfd]

I have no resoect for you

[Guardian45]

Why?

[Guardian45]

I can't. Change your settings.

[Still-alive]

@Guardian45 this person is a common troll on here who uses multiple new accounts. don't bother.

[Guardian45]

@Still-alive. Oh! Thanks for heads up, Bro.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

He is fair

[AndrésC64]

That doesn't answer the question. The question is why doesn't God interfere? Does he not interfere because that would be taking away someone's free will?

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Yes, you answered it already. Evil deceives, and doing good far bad (pretending to be kind and such) is a form of that.

[AndrésC64]

Answer the question.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

We did

[AndrésC64]

Goodbye.