-What makes a male attractive? Masculinity, height, muscles, charm, personality, confidence, his status.
The truth is if you are lacking in most of those things listed above most if not all women will NOT like you. What makes all of this funny is that nobody gives a shit about male struggle. When the male gets angry after years of trying to get better the only thing you people say is "You're an incel hur hur hur"
Just because you average guys have natural confidence building skills doesn't mean every other guy does. Most of you males here lack empathy. You guys are the basic beta males that have the natural basic survival instincts, looks, height, confidence and social skills. The problem comes from the fact you average guys think all other men can be like you easily. This right here is your lack of empathy.
Some men were born into mentally unhealthy environments that stunted their growth in confidence. So as an adult they may have trouble no matter how hard they try. Some men are born short and scrawny getting beatup every single day which again result in more mental issues.
Women's lack of empathy simply comes from the fact they desire leaders and dominant men. Nature designed them not to feel much emotion for weaker grown men. This right here is why I call women natural born sociopaths. The moment you show too much weakness she'll stop loving you and wouldn't even care if you died. That is female nature.
Also when you say men need to change. Hit the gym and become the ideal thing women demand. Gain muscles, charm, dress, act, speak in order to attract females. Is the same as saying hey women " be good little spermdump bimbos because it's what some men like"Hell, even in real life I never whine, cry or complain because I know as a male 100% of you little shit females will be turned off and other men don't give a shit.
The hatred of incels proves male existence is a fucking joke?
Where I agree is that our society has little empathy when it comes to men. As much as many people like to talk about how toxic masculinity harms men, how men should be more open with their feelings and feel free to be more sensitive, those people only really say that because they want to emasculate men. They don't actually want to help men.
If they did, they wouldn't be so interested in demonising masculinity and male nature, and they'd understand that healthy masculinity is important for any man. They also wouldn't bash men who complain about things that men actually care about. They come at it with a bias of "what women want/think is good, what men want/think is stupid". It doesn't matter whether you're talking about the dating scene or other areas, it's always the same. Feminists might often say "I care about men". Do they care about the treatment of men in divorce courts? Father's rights? Homeless men? Male victims of abuse? No, they tend to care more about encouraging men to be effeminate and that's all, while they demonise the men who complain about those other things - which are the things men care about - and call them stupid.
The same goes for this incel stuff. You mention guys being born into bad circumstances, bad childhoods, short etc. All of that applies to me. I had a bad upbringing leaving me with all kinds of issues, to the point where I seriously thought about killing myself. And at that time I was technically an incel. The reason I wanted to kill myself was not because I was never able to cry, be open with feelings etc. It was because I had problems that nobody gave a shit about. The people who'd say all of the above things I mentioned are the same people who, if they disagree with the things you complain about, will tell you as a man to "suck it up". The very thing they speak against all the time - as long as they're talking about some emasculating bullshit. They're hypocrites.
Incels usually do become that way as a result of fucked up childhoods. Having been there myself I'm not so quick to bash them. I can sympathise with them. One of the things that's likely to make anybody feel depressed is to feel undesirable. When women complain about beauty standards and how that negatively affects them because they feel undesirable, nobody gives them any shit for that. But that's precisely the reason incels feel like shit too, just because they're undesirable. And yeah people will just mock them and kick them while they're down.
However, at the same time I can understand some of the criticisms against incels in general. Some of it does lead to misogyny and dangerous ideas of "getting revenge" on women, and that's fucked up.
What really pisses me off about incels though aside from that is the fact that most of these theories have to do with promoting this defeatist mindset where you're automatically doomed to fail. As a guy who started that way and went to great lengths to improve myself, drag myself out of that bad situation and eventually succeed despite my past, I know for a fact that most of the things incels think about women, dating, life in general - are wrong. But the more incels encourage each other to think this way the more these wrong ideas spread, and the less likely those people are to better themselves. It only spreads misery.
Again, even with that I can kind of understand though. Out society teaches us so much bullshit as men, we get so many mixed messages. I guess I just think that things would be much better if people were more interested in helping those men, rather than bashing them, giving them shit advice which causes them to become like that in the first place, emasculating men etc.
Your list is vague and makes one wonder how you imagine the species survived before gyms were invented. Were women just less picky but the standards got heightened so dramatically by other men (besides you) figuring out the sort of things they needed to work on? Or did the men not raised by video games simply complain less about how the difficulty level of women doesn't have a lower setting?
You list "confidence" and "charm," but you've got to understand that your rant demonstrates a near-intentional absence of those things. If you truly believe your list, you gotta understand you don't even list what those things should be - just that they should be something. Like "personality". You have one already. The question is whether or not there are any girls who would find it appealing. And the answer is always yes - a lid for every pot. There is, however, no "universally appealing" personality. Much as there is no "universally appealing" boob size. You have "something" for all of those items listed or you wouldn't be alive.
But really, the things you listed are what the 'metrosexual' male Hollywood producers tell you girls find attractive. In case you couldn't tell, I stopped reading after the 2nd sentence because it was inaccurate. And assuming you adhered to logic, the rest of your rant must have been based on it.
Way of thinking is a big part of the problem with incels. You have an awful victim mentality, mixed with entitlement and anger management problem.
I encourage you to keep trying and get help for those things as well.
Life isn’t easy for most of us. Regardless of what disadvantages you were dealt with, it’s your responsibility to do whatever you need to do to ensure your survival and happiness.
Yeah I get what you mean, most incels are just lonely young men that have indoctrinated them selfs into this women hating culture that is the incels.
While yes we should feel sympathy for them people like let say Elliott Roger we shouldn't.
It's a hard topic to tackle, BC some incels are just lonely dudes, some are just people who think that they can do nothing all day and expect a hot blonde to fall into there lap or think that women should be treated as slave and passed around the entire male gender evenly.
While yes feeling sympathy for a lot of them is a good thing and not just attacking them but some people need a harsh reality check about them selfs if they want to grow.
Yeah some guys might be short but I've seen guys who are barely over 5 foot get some hotties. I've know some fat dudes who get hotties, while yes personality is not made in a day but it can be worked on like anything
Part of the male condition is that we are expected to learn to toughen ourselves up to hardship, whether it be physical or emotional. Historically and physiologically that serves a purpose; we are the protectors, defenders, war wagers, laborers. There is little room for weakness in any of that. Underneath it all humanity still is heavily influenced by it's beginnings. It's a survival trait for the species. Those who require additional resources to survive are considered detrimental to the group. Do men in general get neglected emotionally? Sure we do. But much akin to intentionally giving children chicken pox, it is intended to make you stronger. Because, in the end, men are the disposable sex. Women can outnumber men ten to one and the species will survive just fine. When it's one to one then we suffer population declination. The more concentrated a population, the more effeminate it's male members tend to become. This is not a coincidence.
What you are describing is depression and its not gender specific nor is it ok to whine about it.
You think that the difficulties and struggle you face is something that only you have to deal with, it isn't.
All men deal with this, some find it easier than others but the game is the same for everyone.
The reason you get a hostile reaction from everyone is because you are fucking whining like a faggot about it and no one wants to help someone who won't help themselves.
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Lol nobody is arguing that dating isn’t harder for men because it 100% is hands down, but nobody likes incels because they are just bitter losers who don’t do anything to improve themselves, all they do is sit around Internet forums and bitch about not getting laid, instead of you know building confidence, working out and improving social status
Wow. Bitter I used to have a horrible childhood, with bullying and depression, it took me a while to finally grow up, but I did. With this mentality you never will.
When you live your life unwilling to do anything to improve yourself... not even for women.. for yourself... and then blame other people for lack of empathy... that's the problem.
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