
Why is it ok for women to generalise men but it isn’t ok to generalise black people?

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Cultural Marxism.
Marxism was about economic class, rich vs poor. However when they failed to convince the white working classes of Europe to revolt in favour of communism the Marxists failed, and they decided that Western culture itself was their biggest barrier. That if they were ever going to eventually succeed they needed to subvert the culture.
They aimed to do this by using the same Marxist framework, only in regard to cultural classes rather than economic classes. Marx wrote about the rich as the oppressive class and the poor as the oppressed class. Cultural Marxists see everything from race, sex, religion, sexuality and gender identity in the same black and white way.
Under this framework it’s perfectly acceptable to generalise and to demonise as a group:
- white people
- men
- straight people
- Christians
And it’s unacceptable to generalise or speak negatively about anybody else as a group. It’s that simple.
This girl sounds like a feminist and feminists are some of the dumbest people on Earth. Besides, I've never found an issue with generalizing. It doesn't mean "all x people are y." It just means, "on average, y tends to be true regarding x people." Which is totally a thing. Like stereotypes, there's some truth in generalizations.
Anyway, people will say disagreeable things all the time. It doesn't mean you have to listen to them or take them seriously. That's the beauty of free speech. EVERYONE (supposedly) has it. And no one is obligated to only speak popular speech. So don't worry about what other people say or do. Just worry about your own life.
Generalization of all things are wrong.
Because you see a feminist say
something like that doesn't mean it's okay and accepted.
There are questions all day on here that generalize men, women, all races and all religions that doesn't mean we should take opportunities to ask a question on here to passive aggressively be racist like you just did.
Be the better person and politely remind that person that their behavior is wrong.
How exactly did I be racist? I just pointed out a double standard.
Because it's not a double standard. Women get called out for doing this all the time.
Yet of all races you went straight for black people.
You could've have just said. If you changed men to a race it would be wrong,.
But what would make more sense in this situation change men to women, since it was a woman attacking men.
Black people being treated with racism has nothing to do with men being attacked by a white woman, since for all we know she could be just as racist as she is sexist.
But instead you went straight for black people, this wasn't an accident.
You chose to try to prove a double standard of black people not liking being generalized when this whole situation has nothing at all to do with us
It's one of the things that happen to us more than anything.
Somehow someone of different races offend people and somehow we get dragged into it in a negative way.
Just leave us out of your beef with a feminist.
Let us be
I chose black people because they are looked at as the most oppressed race.
I generalize all men for my own safety. Myself and many other girls/women have had too many bad experiences with men and prefer to just take precautions to prevent ourselves from interacting with another one. I'm more likely to trust a woman over a man.
What does race have anything to do with it? Do you feel unsafe around black people? Why is that?
This is not by any means an accusation, merely a means to open a door to understanding.
Would it be understanding if one had such negative experiences growing up with BIPOC people that it would be perfectly fine to be wary of them? Perhaps we might not want to judge so harshly those who would want to live in their own communities or put bars on there doors.
@JDavid25 Again 💯
How?
Refute the facts first and then tell me how I'm a racist.
My first two wives were black. The second wife had kids. I've had many black gtd. One wanted nothing to do with the black community because she couldn't stand the generalised ignorance and scheming. Is she racist?
How am I racist kas?
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I am a feminist and I never claimed it was okey for anyone to generalize men or black people. Mostly because it makes no logical sense. That said if you want ask why one is worse than the other it would be in the real world consequences of these beliefs. On the one hand we have women being biased against men and on the other hand we have black people being discriminated against AND FUCKING MURDERED BY POLICE.
One is worse than the other and while its not good to have men being discriminated against by women I think we can safely say its not a life or death issue that we have to panic over.
@Avicenna Yes, because that is the argument people have made in defense of killing black people. It takes many forms ranging from "We do not know which black person is good or bad so we could not take the chance that he was harmless and had to assume that he was armed and dangerous." to "All black people are murderers/rapists/drug addicts etc.."
Fundamentally speaking the Police in USA works from the assumption that black people behave in a similar manner and pose a unique threat simply based on their skin color.
Tbh men who worry about this are the ones women should also stay away from.
A man who don't realize his own sex is quite high in the mistreat of women in history and present to fully make it fair that women generalize men for there own safety is probably a guy who mistreats women trying to defend or deny it or just really dumb.
Probably because America doesn't have a history of lynching women and burning down their homes, because they want to vote, etc. We do have a history of lynching black people for wanting to vote, and burning down their homes. And as recently as the 1960's, black people were murdered for helping people sign up for voting. Also, there are no male supremacists marching in the streets, threatening women, and telling women they will not replace us, and shouting Nazi slogans at women. And on and on.
If feminists were about equality, they wouldn't be so hellbent on silencing men who want to talk about their experiences with abuse and rape. I laugh when feminists claim they're about equality but they sure as hell love to ignore male victims.
@Tinaaas this just proves that feminists only care about women. You mention the word “misogynistic” whenever you are talking about men belittling other men.
"Only care about women" "when feminists talk about men belittling other men"
Did you see how you just contradicted yourself bud?
But to reply to what you said, I used the word misogyny because only misogynistic men are strongly prejudiced against women or decent men.
Sadly, there are misogynistic women too
I didn’t contradict myself.
Also are the only men who get sexually assaulted “decent men”?
You did tho. Read your statement again
Not necessarily no. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word decent in this context although I assume those who experienced this fear of violence and harassment might not be so prejudiced or might be able to understand what women go through more than those who didn't. Not sure
Whenever feminists do talk about supporting men they do that after slagging them off multiple posts before. For every time a feminist “supports” men in a post there are at least 300 posts where they are slagging men off. If they really cared about equality then the ratio would be 50 50.
Lol not true. Feminists don't hate on/attack men or men's rights. They only fight patriarchy.
They obviously focus on women more tho because they have been the victims of this power structure more than men. This doesn't mean that men can't be victims of it too but it is less likely.
Feminists don't only encourage male sexual assault survivors to come forward but they also challenge the burden placed on men where they have to be emotionaless. Which is more likely to be perpetuated by men by the way.
If you have a look at the men's rights activists, it's the opposite.
They don't urge equality, they urge the advancement of men at the cost of women yet no one even addresses it.
Go on the official feminists twitter page. (I can’t link it because I am not at a high enough level) and look it how long it takes for them to mention men in a positive way. Also you say “not true” and then you give your opinion with absolutely no facts to support your claim. My evidence is the official feminists instagram page. Where is yours?
Official feminists instagram page sorry
@feminist
Here's a counterargument for you: why is putting on "black face" a career-ending taboo, but crossdressing and transvesticism especially male to female is "stunning and brave?"
The double standards are pretty out of control.
It's okay to generalize and low-key vilify any group that the elites say has some type of power.. It's been okay to generalize men since the 70s.. I would say.. Probably much longer than that..
Feminism is a cause for gender equality, not all equality. Maybe that's why.
Maybe so. But do you agree with the double standard that I pointed out?
Double standards are deep rooted problems in society, not ignorant bimbos posting on Twitter. That's not a double standard, that's just stupidity.
Most people are wary of all strangers and there's nothing stupid about it. Posting things like that on Twitter to get attention is the stupid part.
There's no other reason to post on Twitter or any other social media than attention. If she'd actually want to educate people, she wouldn't use a patronising tone or make a joke out of it.
"It's not rocket science" is making a joke out of it. And I am using a patronising tone. I'm also arguing on the internet to get attention.
Lol so you're using a patronising tone yet you're criticising her because she's using one as you claim?
Also just because you're arguing on internet for attention doesn't mean everyone else does too.
Where else does someone raise awareness? Social media ofc.
It's not rocket science 🥺
its the silliest thought really. i assure you its totally nonsense
Answer the question. Why is the tweet not sexist but if you replace men with black all of a sudden it is racist?
I don't know. Why is is it OK to generalize South Park Cows fans, but it isn't OK to generalize Nebraskans? :D
It's ok to generalize anything, and it's also ok for someone to call a person who does an idiot.
Free speech sure, but don't expect to be taken seriously when making generalizations.
Example #999.999.999.999.999.999 of white girls saying stupid things. It's their nature...
What? That’s a perfectly reasonable statement, and it’s true. Men are much more violent than women.
Yes very true but black men are also more violent that white men... So is it ok to be scared of black men more?
Here is the data: In 2018, based on data from the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, black people were overrepresented among persons arrested for
nonfatal violent crimes (33%) and for serious nonfatal violent crimes (36%) relative to their representation in the U. S. population (13%) (table 1).1 White people were underrepresented. White people accounted for 60% of U. S. residents but 46% of all persons arrested for rape, robbery, aggravated assault, and other assault, and 39% of all arrestees for nonfatal violent crimes excluding other assault. Hispanics, regardless of their race, were overrepresented among arrestees for nonfatal violent crimes excluding other assault (21%) relative to their representation in the U. S. population (18%).
Source: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/revcoa18.pdf
@NewtoTheSouth So white people were slightly underrepresented. I'm still wary of strange men in isolated settings.
But your initial response was: "What? That’s a perfectly reasonable statement, and it’s true. Men are much more violent than women." So which is it? Should people be afraid of a group that is disproportionately likely to harm you (even if the overall chance is slim) or isn't it? In your initial response, you say its reasonable to be more afraid of men because they tend to be more violent than women? In your more recent response, you suggest women shouldn't be afraid more afraid of black men than white men because the overall chance of being harmed is small.
Dude, you're spot on.
You're throwing pearls before swine here.
If you really launch an accurate and statistically backed premise here don't be surprised if you don't get a logical response.
Don't waste your breath.
Lots on here (some exceptions) are just mindless boobs.
And for that reason don't be offended.
The monkeys can't develop a civilization.
Their minds are so base.
Just let it go.
It's not OK extreme feminists are twats who ruin it for the rest of us
Because black people don’t have a habit or raping or attacking. I’d feel a lot more safer around a black woman than I would around any man.
What if I told you that there are more black men in terms of ratio that rape women when compared to white men?
They’re still men so what’s your point?
So you generalise black men as much as you do white men? Also do you assume these peoples gender?
I generalise all men. I don’t care what race they are. I don’t trust them. Simple as. And yeah, if assuming ones gender so I know to stay away from them then yes.
How many times have you been sexually assaulted to make you that scared of men?
I have been groped several times, stalked by old men and my father tried to murder me and my mother.
So if I say that a few black people have groped me and I have been stalked by older black men and my step father who is black tried to murder me and my mother and I go about generalising black people would that make me a racist?
No it wouldn’t. It’s normal to be scared of a certain group of people after many bad experiences. Like the way black people are scared of the police. If you have to generalise an entire group of people for your own safety then do it. The tweet above is true. I know not all men are bad, but I’m not about to risk finding out which ones are bad. It’s easier and makes me feel safer to just stay away from them.
Fair enough. Hope I didn’t upset you in anyway and I hope you enjoy the rest of your day.
You didn’t. And you too!
True. And you would feel safer around a white man than a black man, right? Logically and statistically, you would have to.
Most men haven't groped you, attacked anybody or raped anyone.. So that's a false premise already.. I as a man am more likely than you as a woman to get robbed and attacked, and killed and I have been robbed and attacked multiple times.. Yet I don't walk down the street acting like I distrust every man or even woman I see.. It's feminist propaganda that's what it is.
@JDavid25 💯
I can’t help the way my experiences with men have affected me. So I’m not apologising for my fear. Cry about it.
My point is, I have experienced enough to make me weary of every man. Yes I have not been groped by every man but I have been groped by enough men that it makes me nervous. I don’t get why women being cautious of men is such an issue? When we share our experiences we always get shut down by men telling us that they experience it to blah blah blah. Okay, no one is saying that you don’t. The problem is the only time you want to speak up about it is to invalidate women’s fears. I have literal diagnosed PTSD so no I will not apologise for having a fear of men. And you don’t get to tell anything different either because in all honesty it means absolutely nothing to me and every other woman who has experienced trauma at the hands of a man. You’re not helping anyone, you’re just trying to invalidate people’s concerns and worried because it hurts your feelings.
And you are not me, I am not you. Just because you don’t react a certain way to trauma doesn’t mean that I have to react the same way as well. That’s just common sense that people have different responses to trauma. Your response is not a universal experience. Everyone is different and everyone reacts different. So your point that just because you don’t feel scared means that others shouldn’t as well is ridiculous and just proves my point that all you care about is invalidating people’s experiences.
I see you’re in the comment section replying to other women with similar things. ‘You probably had more nice experiences than bad ones’. There you go again invalidating people’s concerns. You’re part of the problem. You don’t care to listen to people’s struggles, all you care about is making people feel invalidated.
And even if you did have trauma for your experiences. I wouldn’t judge you for that. I would understand if you had any fears. I’ve had years of therapy and telling people they’re being silly for the way they cope with trauma is not it. It’s worth educating yourself on how people deal with trauma in different ways.
Another example I want to use is that along side the trauma I have experienced from men... I also have medical PTSD because of a single situation that happened when I was 12. And since then I have actively avoided all medical situations for the last 10 years, even if they weren’t for me. I have avoided visiting the doctors office for a family member. Even though I know that appointment was not for me, I just could not cope being in that setting.
I'm not reading and responding to all that, and it was only one other person.. At the end of the day most men are not out to rape or attack you.. I'm not invalidating anybody's experience, I'm saying that instead of chalking the experiences up bad people existing which are men and women.. You follow feminist propaganda in that "all men are to be feared".. When I bet like I told the other user you have had more pleasant experiences than bad.. But hey use the victim card all you want..
If you’re not willing to read it then I’m not bothering to read yours either. Goodbye ✌🏼
I actually did read it all and it was mostly you saying I am invalidating people's experience, and I'm not.. There have been women who have had horrible things happen to them by men, and yet they have had enough pleasant experiences with men that they don't judge every single one walking down the street.. I'm not out here saying men are innocent.. But, what I'm getting at is that there are bad people men and women and sitting around acting like men are out to get you won't help you or anybody.. From what I know women will treat you worse than men.. At least most men have some compassion for women.. Can't say the same about women for men.. At the end of the day I'm sorry you have been hurt by men, and it's fine to have a little caution Especially when getting into a relationship, but it is silly to say "Because black people don't have a habit "of" raping or attacking." Which is a bit ironic unfortunately.. It turns into feminist propaganda at that point.
Your point is 100% valid, however when it comes to personal safety we are all prejudice and I'm okay with that.
Because they are retards and men are retarded enough to let them.
Simple. Men come in all forms, sizes, shapes, colours, but black is specific. So big difference.
You make valid points.
Logic is lost on the illogical people
Because it's the mindset that women can't be sexists or black people can't be racists
As a single thing yeah its sexist
Feminism is not about equality
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