Yes, obviously. And the comedy "audits". And the continuous claims of evidence of fraud that they will produce any time now, like they have for the last six months or more.
It's a very dangerous time in worldwide politics, with a minority party determined to take control of the US government in any way possible, and other groups worldwide copying them.
First it's no masks and that the virus did NOT come from a lab in Wuhan because that's a conspiracy theory, next is masks, next it TWO masks, then it's back to one mask, now he's saying that it did come from a lab in Wuhan for gain of function research.
Even if I didn't add the lab parts, how can you trust this guy?
Haven’t looked enough into it but Fauci has had a really terrible performance throughout covid. His suggestions directly contradicted the science many times. It wouldn’t shock me if there was political interest vested in what he’s told the public.
You're not taking the fact that deregulation (not a lab escape) caused this mess so you're buying into conspiratorial BS and can't give the CCP praise for relieving the regulatory burden on small businesses.
Yeah, because someone supposedly getting sick during flu season at the WIV is better evidence than the virus being a hybrid of pangolin and bat coronaviruses coming out of a place where they were kept in close proximity when it's well documented that keeping animals in these kinds of conditions leads to new pandemic diseases.
But as for it being "racist" we aren't blaming Chinese people because we know that most people don't partake in wet markets but that highlights the need to regulate these things instead of leaving it up to the market. We also know that Asian wet markets aren't the only breeding grounds for new diseases: www.chicagotribune.com/.../...-20180723-story.html
LMAO you're the one who bought into the claim that because it spread faster in humans than other bat coronaviruses it's made in a lab. You know how every pandemic causing diseases spreads faster in humans than whatever animal virus it evolved from.
lol, you don't know jack shit about what they can do in a lab, so quit acting like you do. You still think it's a good idea for hamsters to wear masks.
"One tell-tale sign of alleged manipulation the two men highlighted was a row of four amino acids they found on the SARS-Cov-2 spike.
In an exclusive interview with DailyMail. com, Sørensen said the amino acids all have a positive charge, which cause the virus to tightly cling to the negatively charged parts of human cells like a magnet, and so become more infectious.
But because, like magnets, the positively charged amino acids repel each other, it is rare to find even three in a row in naturally occurring organisms, while four in a row is 'extremely unlikely,' the scientist said.
'The laws of physics mean that you cannot have four positively charged amino acids in a row. The only way you can get this is if you artificially manufacture it,' Dalgleish told DailyMail. com."
Obviously that's BS; if the laws of physics say that you can't have 4 charged amino acids in a row, then it wouldn't exist whether it was naturally occurring or made in a lab.
Sure! Once my governor passed an order forbidding mask mandates, cases fell through the floor. Now there weren’t even any deaths reported yesterday and about 100 cases a day in a state of 5.5 million. No masks = less covid. Masks = more covid.
No moron. You specifically stated the rules are that we base mask mandates on new case rate. That’s it. I’m following your rules. Cases went up after every state that had a mask mandate implemented them.
No, they didn’t. So you’re agreeing that masks had no effect on cases. Glad you’re finally seeing the light. Cov2 is a seasonal virus unaffected by masks or lockdowns. Thanks for playing.
Yeah they did and you're argument is as asinine as saying that even though we give people flu shots just before flu season, cases of influenza still go up anyway so flu shots are pointless.
Flu shots are only 40% effective. So mostly pointless. So we have 50% of the country vaccinated and have hit herd immunity. So you twats still wearing masks are doing it because you’re either hypochondriacs or ugly.
He claimed that they didn't work un non vaccinated individuals before data showed that pre symptomatic spread was a problem (which masks limit by restricting how far viral particles propagate).
I’m going to give you some facts. You likely won’t be able to follow it but this is the end of it:
1) Fauci gets on TV and says they don’t work. 2) Fauci emails a colleague and reiterates that masks don’t work. It has ZERO to do with presymptomatic people. If it did, he wouldn’t have been so sure of himself. And his quote was “the mask you buy at the store is not effective at stopping the virus” 3) He later goes on TV and says “wear masks” 4) When questioned about his change in attitude - NOTHING was mentioned about presymptomatic people. His story is that he said masks were ineffective so that the mask supply would be there for medical professionals.
So you have the following scenarios.
1) If Fauci was telling the truth when he says masks work and he only wanted to protect the supply - then he lied when he got on TV and said masks didn’t work. People died as a result of him lying to them and saying masks didn’t work. 2) If masks did work, and he wanted to protect the supply, he wouldn’t have said to his colleague that masks didn’t work. There’s no reason to keep this lie going in a private email.
Therefore, he’s either guilty of killing people by giving bad advice about masks (that they don’t work) or he’s lying when he changed his story and insisted that masks work. (And we know he’s lying in the latter because he insisted to Rand Paul that they weren’t theater, then 2 days later said no one who is vaccinated should wear them)
There’s no part of this where he’s been acting for the public good.
He was so sure of himself because (as was stated in that clipped out of context video of him that you spammed everywhere) pre-symptomatic spread hasn't been a primary means of transmission for previous pandemics. But later analysis showed that pre-symptomatic spread was indeed a primary method that COVID-19 was spread.
Yeah, no it isn’t. Because that never came out of his mouth. He wouldn’t have need to say “I lied about masks to protect the supply”. He would have said “Presymptomatic spread is much worse than we thought”.
It won't stop it but when you exhale it will cause a lot more turbulence limiting how far it can travel and thus how far the virus can propagate. Is getting past the "Fauci is fraud" mythos so hard for you?
Fauci is a fraud. You still can't dispute his own words. You can try to spin or dance around them. You can pretend he didn't say what he said. But he's a fraud. He's a pinhead bureaucrat who's enamored with his own celebrity at the cost of public health and science. He's flip-flopped on everything. You just don't want to admit reality because you've replaced worshiping a god with worshiping him. He was a fraud during the AIDS crisis, also. He should have been tarred and featherd. I feel bad for you.
He "flip flopped" on some things because new information came in that contradicted his previous recommendations captain hindsight. You know, it is a NOVEL coronavirus.
lol. Novel doesn't mean we've never encountered a virus anywhere like this one before. It only means we don't have immunity to it. But even that was proven wrong because natural immunity from SARS1 seems to provide some protection.
Let's not forget the whole horseshit around the BLM riots.
Novel means it will also behave in ways that we couldn't have predicted with prior knowledge. And what about the protests that didn't spread the virus in a statistically significant manner and took place when businesses were re-opening (debunking the BS claim that the left is fine with lockdowns when they close small businesses but are OK with it when it's for a cause that they support)?
No moron. the CDC lied about outdoor transmission. THAT'S the reason. Weird how this NOVEL!!! OMGGG virus behaves like every other seasonal respiratory virus as far as transmission and cyclical infection rates. But don't worry, you have VARIANTS!!! To piss yourself about. Keep wearing your mask, tool.
Nope, but you wouldn't want 160,000 excess deaths to occur in your country because your president embraced individualist snowflakery instead of rugged collectivism.
Thanks to mask mandates and social distancing, we have a lot less new deadly variants than we would of had. And that's not just speculation; when the Spanish Flu was sent over to the trenches, it bread way more virulent strains which came back to the US being way more deadly than it was in the spring of 1918.
Yeah, because mutating into deadlier strains when there's more interpersonal contact (because the virus doesn't "have to worry" about killing its' host before it can be transmitted as much) is somehow exclusive to influenza? God you're desperate; keep grasping at straws.
The laws of evolution applies to every pathogen. I see the anti-science position that the right has taken in the 2000s (creation evolution debates) came back to haunt the nation 15 years later.
Except they didn’t stop the spread of covid. Fauci said so himself We already went through this. Are you so fucking stupid you can’t remember me explaining it to you?
I remember him saying that before it was demonstrated that pre-symptomatic spread was a problem which is why when the second and third waves hit, states that implemented mask mandates earlier didn't have as a severe an outbreak.
You're dizzy from all your spinning (but then again that's the only way "Libertarians" can make a case).
He stated presymptomatic spread was a problem (you'd know that if you watched the whole video that clip you shit posted everywhere was taken from). I never stated I thought masks were necessary after vaccination BUT you said that they were useless.
Lol. Again. He told you not to wear masks on TV. He told a colleague in email that masks were ineffective at stopping the spread. Then he flip-flopped. When questioned. he didn’t say any of your horseshit. He said “I wanted to protect the supply of masks for healthcare workers”. You can’t even keep your lie straight.
And they are useless. But the government wanted a way to make people they had some control, so they floated the bullshit and you simpletons ate it up. Now you could tell everyone you were helping.
Japan - the country you think is a hero because they always wear masks just got into their 4th wave and their hospitals almost collapsed.
But Covid is over in the US, everyone still wearing a mask is a paranoid hypochondriac.
-All you have to do is compare the case rate in similar locations (where other factors are controlled for).
But masks aren't an effective means of controlling the population, gutting their ability to fight collectively against a crisis makes the society more vulnerable to private concentrations of power.
-Japan also has a way higher population density and a much more top heavy population pyramid. You love spinning bits of information to fit your dogmatic world view don't you?
Yeah, the states where people's freedom to go outside without fear of contracting a deadly disease was protected via mask mandates saw less deaths after the virus spread throughout the nation.
Yup. Florida saw fewer deaths than you commie blue states. They had freedom, a booming economy and happiness. Now DeSantis is bitch smacking all of you dipshits, and will be your next president.
Fraudci also said we’d be wearing masks into ‘22. Another fucking idiot statement from that pinhead. But you’re holding the faith. You and your army of masked hamsters.
Lmao. He was only off by a year and a half. I’m actually sad you got duped by such a moron. Like it’s not even funny any more. It’s just sad and pathetic. He broke your ability to think rationally (not that you had much to start with).
Actually, I never believed everything he said at face value, unlike you who will believe anything that conforms to your world view and can't tell that if somethings' "physically impossible" it won't exist in nature or a lab.
But it was policies that you support that gave rise to this pandemic and even if you were to abide by the lab leak 'theory', what does faulty safety protocols in a medical research lab have to do with the means of production being controlled by the community?
Right, except for the fact that we've ID'd parts of pangolin and bat coronaviruses in the COVID-19 genome (only 3 years after the endangered species act was amended to allow pangolins to be kept in wet markets), that both animals were kept in the Wuhan market and that keeping animals in close proximity like this also gave rise to the 2003 SARS outbreak. Was that from a lab too?
Lets see, what's the case for the lab leak "hypothesis"? -Someone was sick at a lab during flu season -The virus spreads faster in humans than the pathogen it evolved from (like every other pandemic causing diseases) -4 amino acid residues in a row (which if it was physically impossible, it wouldn't happen in a lab or in a natural setting [if you want to call a wet market a 'natural setting']).
"Relieve the regulatory burden on small businesses" is nothing but a dog whistle for putting society at risk for short term financial interests.
Yeah, I'm a npc because I think for myself and don't let others control my thoughts; you've been played by Trump and his big business cronies who wanted to be able to exploit the public in a time of peril.
-That as we learned more about the virus, we wouldn't need lockdowns to limit the spread. -That you're touting conspiratorial BS because you don't want to own up to the fact that policies you support caused the outbreak of the virus. -Why the evidence behind the lab leak theory given by the State Department and Robert Redfield were BS. -Why the herd immunity strategy is just begging for new strains to come about. -Why the hospital system would be overwhelmed even if we isolated the elderly etc...
Lmao. You want everyone to get the vaccine. That’s part of the herd immunity strategy, numnuts. That’s why we already have it in the US despite only 30-50% of the population vaccinated.
None of those things are original thoughts, you’re parroting what the TV tells you.
This so-called doctor fraudci belong in high security prison for the crime against humanity, slaughter and murder of many thousands of people and destruction of US and world economies.
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