Why is it stunning and brave to question the 2016 election, but if you question the 2020 election you’re a domestic terrorist?

[Sixgunsound]

I realize there are a lot of people on the left who are just trying to make it through the day and maybe their heart is in the right place but they got caught up in some thing that’s bigger than they are, but even at that point you have to acknowledge the rampant hypocrisy in this latest plot twist.

[NaultD]

This is about the 2016 muller investigation. This is what we are talking about that to be 100% clear. It started from May 2017 to March 2019 to fully investigate the situation. Here's a link of people who pled guilty to the charges pressed on them.

https://www.axios.com/2019/11/15/trump-associates-convicted-mueller-investigations

Now donald trump didn't get charged himself but a dozen people around him even advisors was proven in court bought out by Russia. As any principle well respectable president would condemn his own advisors. What did donald do? He Pardon them. Take that as you will.

Now with the 2020 "steal". Donald and his fans said it was a greentree 50 state sweep and anything less was stolen a year before anyone voted. The 2016 election was a narrower victory then 2020.

If you have evidence of 2020 election fraud take it to your local trump appointed judges. They are chewing at the bit as much as you are for a scrap of anything. The problem is our election being as archaic as they are on the ground is a really powerful defense on election day. Which is the foundation of the 2020 election fraud.

The 2016 election fraud is more direct with direct lines of payrole. They would also pled guilty in court. All the fucking lawyers in the 2020 fraud go to court and say we have nothing then get disbarred because there idiots. But if they lie will go to jail. This is why the January 6th hearings spent a week proving on the ground manipulation of votes didn't happen. Any legitimate accusation of voting fraud would exonerate the entirety of January 6th insurrection. The closest was this guy who believes in vampires from Jupiter i think.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Xwdkng6ZGp8

[NaultD]

You're trying to compare apples to Jupiter with this question.

[Sixgunsound]

The only thing clear here is you aren’t trying to answer the actual question because it contains too much inconvenient truth. Nice try though😆

[Chazmatazz269]

Did you even read the article you posted? The ONLY person convicted of tampering with the election was Pinedo, who has no known ties to Drumpf or anyone else in his administration. Ell oh ell!
It was a gallant effort though.

[NaultD]

@Chazmatazz269
Michael cohen personal lawyer for don. Famous for paying off porn stars to get abortions after affairs with don.

Paul Manafort. Dons Campaign chairman.

Roger stone campaign advisor.

Hand full of other people aiding these guys then a dozen named Russian hackers all proven beyond a reasonable doubt in court illegally getting don elected.

I honestly don't know what's worse don active cooperation with Russia or Russia thinks don is such a dumbfuck that paying off enough people around him (that has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt in court) is enough to manipulate don?

[Chazmatazz269]

You are completely misrepresenting what happened. Only ONE person was convicted of election tampering and he has no known ties to Drumpf. The rest were convicted of lying to the FBI, impeding an official investigation, tampering with evidence and other things, but NONE were actually found guilty of tampering with the election. You’re either lying or completely ignorant of the content of the very same article YOU linked.

[Sixgunsound]

@Chazmatazz269 is there any reason it can’t be both🤣

[Chazmatazz269]

It’s possible. It’s just highly unlikely. You can’t honestly suggest on one hand that Drumpf is a damn fool narcissist, and then suggest on the other hand that he pulled off multiple PERFECT crimes. Especially when half of the world would rather watch him boil in oil than hear him ever speak publicly again. Dumb criminals ALWAYS end up in jail in short order. So is he a moron, or is he an evil genius? Cuz it quite simply can’t go both ways. Are we interested in truth, or rhetoric? The lamestream media will deliver us ALL the bad rhetoric they can construct. If you’re not putting two and two together or subtracting four from eight, then you’re probably not really interested in the truth.

[Sixgunsound]

@Chazmatazz269 Trump committed the cardinal sin of dynastic politics by turning popular resentment away from any race or gender or economic situation and put it back on corrupt politicians. Those corrupt politicians who want decades in office and then their families to succeed them can’t have that. Rulers throughout history have more typically focused resentment on an external threat to prevent their populations from rebelling against them, but in the 1960s the left in the United States chose to focus that national resentment internally by making parts of the domestic population the public enemy. It’s funny how history repeats itself, isn’t it? Trump flipped yet another script on the American left by putting the resentment where it actually should be, in line with the written and documented historical evidence of the thinking of the founders of a free republic. In the information age, citizens are better able to figure out how hard they’re getting screwed by their government, and how that government has become everything the founders warned us about. The political establishment on both sides hate him because he keeps telling the little people what the big people are doing to them.

[Lliam]

Yup. It's the ultimate irony.
Democratic politicians are lying manipulators. Democratic voters only hear what they want to hear.

I'm not a Republican and I'm not a huge Trump fan, but the Democratic party has become an existential threat to American and global freedom and democracy. I think it is literally working to deliberately destroy this country in order to usher in the New World Order/One World Government/Great Reset, and hand every asset, including humans, over to billionaires. They hope that, once people get desperate enough, they will welcome a tyrannical savior.
Problem, reaction, solution.

[Agape93]

There's a fine line between questioning it and trying to stop it with violence. In 2016 nobody tried to enact a coup to stop Trump from getting in office. In 2020, hundreds did try to enact a coup. That's the difference.

But honestly I don't care. Both of them are geriatric mental patients with things for minors and corrupt money schemes. Fuck em.

[Sixgunsound]

When Hillary’s crew destroyed art and cultural artifacts and torched a few other things in DC that doesn’t count? Six broken windows is worse Than hate-crime motivated arson and cultural artifact destruction? That’s a very curious theory, and one I sincerely hope is based on more than propaganda and anti-trump hate mongering.

[Agape93]

It counts as vandalism sure, and I wouldn't doubt for a second that it's a hate crime. It's killary after all. But no, it does not count as a coup, not even close. Nobody died there, nobody tried to stop the election by force, the police didn't have to kill a rioter crawling through a window.

Oh I hate Trump, no question. But I also paid attention during both elections, and 2020 is the only one of the two where a massive group of presidential supporters marched into congress to try and stop an election.

That's a crime, big time. Sooner you can condemn your sides crimes for what they are, the sooner everyone else can take your election claims more seriously

[Sixgunsound]

I’m not making any election claims I’m just calling for a little integrity on both sides. If it works for one side it works for the other, or if it doesn’t it doesn’t work on either side. An actual coup wouldn’t have been such an obvious orchestrated demonstration, and the side that has 48% of all guns on earth would have arrived armed.

[Agape93]

I know, that was more of a generality to those on the right. But integrity would be nice but this country is far too gone for such levels of decency.

I just wished I could see gunfire when it was happening. Preferably the national guard killing the rioters, or honestly anything more entertaining than a bunch of nitwits from the waffle house states barge into the capitol lol

[Sixgunsound]

An actual coup wouldn’t have so many capitol police photographed holding doors open. Any politician worried about an actual coup wouldn’t have refused the National Guard when offered. It’s just such an obvious set up that I can’t take it seriously.

[Sixgunsound]

And neither do many other people who don’t have an emotional or political interest in seeing their dog come out ahead.

[Agape93]

Let me ask you something, I respect your views on politics. When do you think this territorial pissing match will come to a boiling point?

[Sixgunsound]

Up to a year, unless the adults in BOTH parties come to power soon. When you have the federal government inciting civil war and sending dog whistles to its brown shirts that it’s time to ride, that has never ended well.

[Sixgunsound]

The last time the federal government did its level best to destroy everything about the social, cultural, religious and economic lives of its political opponents, it led to war. Granted there was some BS going on in the south I’m not saying there wasn’t, but there was also a lot of federal overreach and related financial and political BS going on in the north too.

[Sixgunsound]

The first civil war began about states rights vs federal overreach, and only became about slavery when the feds were losing and made the first official use of black people as token shields. If you go back and read the emancipation proclamation more closely than I am assuming most secondary school teachers are willing or allowed to, you will see that it actually only freed slaves in southern territories, and let everyone else who still had them keep theirs! It functionally did nothing but political grandstanding and posturing for the Black people it was supposed to help.

[Agape93]

I wonder how it'll play out this time around. Either peace, or violence. Dust and blood.

[Sixgunsound]

Allow me to show you a tale of two rallies, and what the current power structure is up against:

https://youtu.be/d6g20XU9ONQ

You can see that they are losing, and losing badly. I know you said you don’t like trump, and I have disagreements with him as well, but that isn’t what I was trying to demonstrate here. The current ruling class is hyper aware that a lot of them are going to be unemployed next year, which causes them at least two problems: no influence to sell and no more immunity from prosecution. Their options are burn him and his followers down or burn it all down because the only thing keeping them rich and out of jail is their death grip on the levers of power. Nothing, nothing else matters no matter how many people they have to kill or what else they have to destroy to keep control. Look what they just put us through to force us to vote by mail for Biden? The sick sadistic freaks who are willing to do that to the entire planet just to throw a US election don’t have moral scruples about how far they will go to enrich or at minimum save themselves.

[Sixgunsound]

It’s going to be very interesting to see how they managed to prevent the red title wave in November. Because they either turn the tide, or it’s over. And cornered animals are very very dangerous.

[Julie4]

My God, this country needs a monarchy of divine right lol

[Sixgunsound]

In the interest of fairness that isn’t always successful either, a certain Louis XIV found that out the hard way. I don’t think the perfect government exists because they inevitably become corrupt rent-seeking extortionists.

[Julie4]

It was for the joke. But I'm surprised you know the reference.

I agree with you, there is no perfect government.

But it seems to me that the last elections have caused doubts about their results among American citizens. hadn't the election of Bush also created suspicions? Personally I trust our democratic systems, and I never question the election results, even if my candidate does not win, although I personally did not vote in the last presidential elections.

[Sixgunsound]

As far as I’ve been able to determine, Gor did win the 2000 election. There’s a difference between French elections and American elections however and that difference is that France has laws in place to protect the integrity of elections, as well as to guarantee who voter is and how many times they have voted. Do United States Does not have those legitimacy guarantees. One of the major US parties consistently opposes creating those common sense integrity laws because they know that the United States is a center right nation not a hard left nation and that many of them would be out of a job and that’s available to be prosecuted for their crimes.

[worldscolide]

Leftist stupidity in a nut shell. They are hypocrites.. They literally want to do away with the constitution and the bill of rights as well as the house and senate all because they rarely get their way.. What do you expect from the party of slavery?

[Anonymous]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/V84UMWm5w3M

Remember this?

I know. I know. It’s (D) ifferent.

🙄

[NewsReader]

Yeah, I remember that. I was shocked by their reaction.

[jshm2]

You've got some pretty sad and misconstrued ideas, kiddo.

No one is questioning either or. Just Trumpers are hung up on the latter, is all.

[Agagagagaga]

You’ve got a lot to lean about the world, kiddo.

PS: Go suck shite through a tube.

[Chazmatazz269]

You are mistaken. Kamala Harris publicly stated that they are certain Russia compromised the results of the 2016 presidential election. She also admitted to putting together task groups in Congress to prevent election tampering in the future BEFORE she was even on the ballot; so not as a result of the 2020 election results and protests.

[Chazmatazz269]

Here’s a link to the podcast in which Kamala Harris talks a fair bit about the 2016 presidential election tampering.

open.spotify.com/.../6KmB14rjHArExy57CgZF1j

If you don’t have Spotify, you can find “Smartless” online, for free.

[spartan55]

The only person questioning the 2016 election was Trump claiming he must have won by more votes.

[Sixgunsound]

You’re either failing at trying to be funny, or a liar, and either way can be safely ignored.

[spartan55]

Riiiiight, just like all those documents were 'declassified', no wait! they were going to his honorary library...

[Sixgunsound]

Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. I’m sorry this one didn’t work out the way you wanted it to either.

[spartan55]

What one didn't work out? Wtf you are delusional.

[Chazmatazz269]

There is STILL a pervasive belief among the left that Russia compromised the results of the 2016 presidential election. Kamala Harris has admitted it publicly and they assembled task groups at the federal level to try and prevent it from happening again. So, as OP pointed out, you’re either mistaken, lying, or making a joke. Whichever, the facts fly in the face of your response.

[spartan55]

Sure thing. 👌

[Chazmatazz269]

open.spotify.com/.../6KmB14rjHArExy57CgZF1j

Here’s a link to a podcast on which Kamala Harris says a fair bit about the election tampering of 2016.

[Chazmatazz269]

If you don’t have Spotify, you can find “Smartless” online, for free.

[spartan55]

"Don't have Spotify"... anything else?

[Chazmatazz269]

Yeah, as i said, “Smartless” is available online, for free.

www.smartless.com/.../kamala-harris

[abc3643]

You aren't a domestic terrorist.
You're a domestic idiot.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

leftists are whiny self righteous brats with victim complex that think that everyone who opposes them is evil. this is a result of fear and insecurity

[SmokinAces2000]

Because in the 2016 election that was it, it was questioned, Hillary voters didn’t storm the capital because they were butthurt that she lost

[Agagagagaga]

https://youtu.be/V84UMWm5w3M

So is it a question of proportionality that you’re hung up on... or the location?

Surely it couldn’t be the financial costs. 🙄

[BarryLiverstone]

It’s just politics, both sides do it

[Guy__]

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