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there's an obvious rise of brown shirts in the maga crowd.
just like in germany the government tried to take away the guns from the nazis, but they ended up taking power anyways.
how do we prevent the rise of the nazis this time around?
Wow these arguments here are harsh. Right wingers trying to defend mass-shooter, making Nazi jokes, and obviously not understanding what they are talking about.
You dont need to be a White-supremacist to be a Nazi, but it often works together.
Neo-nazis are not in a position of goverment power so they use whatever ressource they can. Unlike Nazis during Hitlers reign. Neo-Nazis /= Nazis during WW. They have goals that overlap but you can't say this is not a neo-nazi because he wouldn't be a Nazi during the holocaust.
Nazis always focused on being together against the bigger enemy. Neo-Nazis would even use black people as long as they help defeating the bigger threat and that is one thing they do today too, and if they loose a black guy in the process its probably a win-win for them. I mean they literally published a conspiracy theory, that communist Jews influence Afro-Americans to rape white women. They can "safe" these by using them for their own purpose (basically cannon fodder). White supremacists dont want to necessarily kill all non white people, they are fine with using non white people for their purpose, white supremacist just think they are genetically advanced and non whites are more like animals, which can be used.
Also saying that the left is getting more extreme, so people on the right get more extreme too, and therefore its the left fault that right-wingers start killing people, has one of the worst arguments I have ever heard in my life.
i dont even know anymore. im convinced that its just the incredibly stupid who fall to these things.
It is happening all the time here now and they are always right-wingers.
ONLY to the left-wingers!! You know, the REAL racist nazis!!
Welcome... please step into my office and have a seat right there on the couch.
I hear you wanna talk about Nazi's... pet my cat.
Before we can take you seriously... we'll have to have a discussion about why it matters so much to you because...
This stuff might get far leftest progressives all over your dong... but the rest of us are just like...
Weird champ.
I'm just fucking around... but dude, I've crossed words with some of these dudes... don't get sucked into their bullshit propaganda. Most of them are borderline retards and couldn't score higher than a 80 on an IQ test. Don't take their bullshit too seriously.
They're aiming for an IQ of 88. :) But we should absolutely take them seriously.
Not their arguments, which are bullshit, but their ability to radicalise people with their lies. Who wouldn't want to fight against systematic paedophilia? Who wouldn't fight to protect new born children? They're being encouraged to fight, and are waiting for a target to be given to them, like the Capitol in 2021.
This guy is no different from a suicide bomber, willing to die for his cause, sent to die by liars.
The real problem is the ANTIFA/BLM terrorists. The MAGA people rioted for a few hours in the capital on Jan 6, but ANTIFA/BLM has been rioting for years now and destroyed multiple buildings and attacked bystanders. They will throw bombs at police and have caused massive damage across the country, but the Soros-backed DAs will let them off the hook.
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According to the media, this is a nazi, lol
who the fuck is that? and are you aware that a lot of the white supremacist aren't pure germans or no?
so there goes your whole argument.
white supremacist and neo nazis.
That’s the dude who shot up the mall who the media is calling a white supremacist. you are a genius by your own accord, Is that a white dude?
u get that from 4chan or something?
That was one of the victims, not the shooter, @chefpapichulo
www.fox4news.com/.../allen-premium-outlets-shooting-victims
"An account run by the suspect on a Russia-based social network seen by BBC News includes pictures of Nazi swastikas and SS tattoos, other posts glorifying Nazis, and rambling messages about violence." www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65527487
@goaded oh you're right my bad.
yeah I don't know most people in america wouldn't be considered aryan so i honestly dont know. its not like aryan gangs in prison check if you're fully german. most white people in america are muts.
i have race as white too on my license, so if thats his only argument is a poor one.
thats the fallacy of the white supremacist in america buddy. real white people are anglo-saxon.
He’s an anglo Saxon to you? Lmao
exactly. you're sort of starting to get it. plenty of racist white supremacist in america aren't even white. theyre muts. the issue is the ideology, not what he looks like or if you think he's white or not. hopefully you're able to understand that with the limited IQ that you have.
Why not, if he considered himself white? Apparently he did love his Nazis.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65527487
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Just like Clayton Bigsby, eh?
That was an image the killer posted. He obviously chose your right hand path.
Is Holocaust Denial Evil or Morally Incorrect? ↗
@goaded BAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Are you still pretending that the FBI who took 6 years to announce a motive in the Las Vegas shooting and their conclusion was "oh, he was mad he lost money at the casino" found all this in less than 2 hours? The "he was inspired by the libs of tiktok twitter account" bit was *chef's kiss*
He wasn't black, was he? And he believed he was white enough to be a white supremacist, that's all that counts. The fact that those assholes don't really want people like him in their club doesn't mean he couldn't believe he was in it.
He killed people because of white supremacist beliefs, the kind that you do nothing to advocate against.
@goaded No one ever said he was black, dipshit. But he has to be white to be a white supremacist. He wasn't white. All of this "evidence" of neo nazisim is extremely fishy at the least, but you glom right on it because you don't really care about minorities, you don't really care about white supremacy, and you really don't care about Nazis. What you DO care about is trying to tie the republican party to White Supremacy and nazis as a way to attack the republican party.
The bottom line is that if a black/brown/yellow/red person can be a nazi and a white supremacist, Democrats are also nazis and white supremacists (which, of course, is historically accurate when you consider Robert Byrd).
Are you white? Lol
Your whole bullshit is about him not being white. Somehow I'm not surprised that you feel qualified to determine whether he's allowed to be a white supremacist (and think black people are sub-human) or not.
He had a swastika tattoo, for heaven's sake. He was following white supremacist bullshit.
You might have an easier time distancing yourself from Nazis if you hadn't said there was nothing immoral about Holocaust denial.
Someone on his social media page, that included personally identifiable information, had a swastika tattoo; it was probably him, why else would it be there? You're convinced that he shouldn't be part of the (your) white supremacist club because he's not white enough, but the only thing that matters is that he wanted to be in it and "fight" against black people and the left. He was following white supremacist bullshit. He was a right-wing terrorist.
You might have an easier time distancing yourself from Nazis if you hadn't said there was nothing immoral about Holocaust denial. There's still time to correct your answer.
crazy how from someone not even from the US knows more about American history than you do lol.
Choo choo, your stupid SJW bullshit isn’t history.
witless and uneducated.
Doesn’t matter what you think lol. The democrats keep winning. And they have already decided white supremacist to being the biggest terrorist threat in America.
Yup, you guys are pure propagandists. You'd make Russia jealous. Too bad your grip on the media is slipping.
Grip on the media? Buddy say a racist word on any network and you’re blackballed. Liberals are winning. You’re losing.
Yes, you homos are big mad that Elon has Twitter. Now real news is getting distributed.
Buddy that news was like one year ago. No one cares.
Imagine calling Twitter real news lmao. Shows your intelligence right there. I’m sure YouTube is real news too.
you're evil buddy.
You’re retarded buddy.
im going to give you a math question. and if you can't solve it you're retarded, okay?
We're doing what we can to STOP the democrats! With your help, we can get it done a LOT faster! Once that's done, no more racism!!
There will be no stopping it because the more extreme the left becomes, the more people are pushed to the far-right.
What do you mean by that?
thats crazy. almost like you just created an excuse for him.
@goaded
I asked what you meant by that because it doesn’t really matter whether I lie or not, because I’m just an average guy - I’m not influencing anybody. A lot of people move further to the right in response to the left becoming more extreme. Many will tell you the exact same thing whether you believe that’s a real thing or not.
When I speak about the left becoming more extreme I’m speaking about the increasing demonisation of white people, the demonisation of men, with exposing children to LGBT, drag queens, teaching sex education at an earlier age.
You might call me a liar, especially when it comes to the last part. I could find plenty examples if I could be bothered to dig them out, but I’m not going to convince you of anything so that would be a waste of time. Or maybe you think I’m lying because you don’t think that those things are extreme at all - but plenty of people disagree.
Either way, this is how people see it, this is how it’s happening.
I think you're mistaken. The problem is not that the left is becoming more extreme, it's that the right is being told that they are. They're being told that the left is blaming white kids for slavery, that they advocate abortions after birth, that they're groomers and paedophiles, that they want to take away all your guns.
The problem is that none of that is really true, they're lies the right has to tell to excuse passing laws that kill adult women having miscarriages, that lead to shootouts at teenagers' birthday parties, that lead people to attack and kill innocent protesters and brown people (without checking to see if they're there legally or which party they vote for).
But, that's a GOOD thing!!! That gets rid of the racists and nazis!!
@goaded
I disagree. That’s why I asked what you meant by lying, because whenever leftists speak about the right, they always speak as if the only reason people become more right-wing is because they’re lied to and influenced by other right wingers.
Some of that probably does go in, of course, people on both sides do this. But that’s not the only reason, and I’d argue that it’s not the main reason at all.
Consider for example the Twitter account LibsOfTikTok. Leftists constantly attack that account and accuse them of lying in the way you describe, but literally all they do is post videos from far-leftists. That’s it. That’s all they have to do to influence people, post the things leftists are saying.
@FunkyMonkee What’s a good thing?
The left causing more people to swing to the right.
Does LibsOfTikTok post videos of Democratic leaders or politicians, or random people on the internet? Does she include all the necessary context for people to make an informed decision? Somehow I doubt it.
Meanwhile you even have Republican governors, senators, representatives, an ex-president, etc. shouting "CRT", "woke", "groomers", "abortions after birth" and other lies (remarkably often later being found sexually assaulting young people and/or paying for abortions).
Or do you really believe that Democrats are advocating for killing living babies?
@goaded
Those people that LibsOfTikTok post aren’t politicians, some are just nutcases, but others are still in positions where they do have some influence e. g. teachers. When people see what far-left teachers are teaching children in schools, and that they’re allowed to teach it, they move further right because obviously they don’t want their own children brainwashed by these crazies.
My main point is that what causes many people to shift further right is not mainly right-wing influencers, but seeing what leftists say and conversations with leftists.
Firstly, getting people to move right is the objective of LibsOfTikTok. Secondly, you're discounting the fact that the entire Republican leadership, Fox News, Newsmax and OANN lie to them, or, in the case of the politicians, refuse to call out the lies. I think that has a bigger effect than some viral video maker, don't you?
That's what I said.
@goaded
You’re right, the objective of LibsOfTikTok is to convince people to move to the right - simply by posting videos made by leftists. Even before LibsOfTikTok there were a lot of “anti-SJW” channels on social media sites basically doing the exact same thing.
I am discounting that, because this isn’t only happening in America. It’s happening in every Western country. In my country we don’t have an equivalent to Fox News for example, as in no channel that is mainly right-wing.
I definitely think that people are more heavily influenced by what they see on social media than anything else, especially for younger people. Many don’t really watch normal TV anymore.
Politicians lie. All of them. It’s the one thing that they’re all good at. They gain votes by telling people what they want to hear and making (usually false) promises - based on the things they already want and believe.
Is the asshole who's blocked me saying anything relevant? Last I looked, he was justifying the murder of children as an attack on "the left".
If "people are more heavily influenced by what they see on social media than anything else, especially for younger people", then why do younger people vote more for Democrats in the US? (You're anonymous, so I don't know where you are.) Most people under 50 voted for Biden, 64% of under 25s.
@goaded
The same is true where I’m from. The education system is more left-wing. Most teachers are. I also think that most young people are just left-wing anyway for a bunch of other reasons, as was I. I’m telling you exactly how I and many others like myself moved from the left to the right.
When we discovered half the country still agrees with them.
Fascists and Nazis dress in black.
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