Ever wonder why there aren’t a lot of Biden hats?

[OddBeMe]

Or shirts or flags? There’s really none…not even American flags. It’s like Trumpers doth protest their patriotism.

Updates

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@gorydetails so not what the clip said. And you guys are morons

[msmissydc]

Because this only works for propaganda reasons. So those that actually understand politics dont need that stuff. The later are probably more biden voters. Also if you have no political agenda that you can actually tell people, you need other ways to get to the masses which is probably why trump does this.

[exitseven]

Did you happen to see Trump at the Turning Point convention yesterday? He very systematically spoke about his p[olitical agenda. The only agenda that Biden has is staying in power and destroying America.

[msmissydc]

Wait is that the same trump that tried a coup? The one that tried to stay in power with all he got and still failed? The cult leader?

[exitseven]

You don;t know what you are talking about. He did not try a coup. That was just a lie made up by the fake news. He was contesting a stolen election.
He was very on point during the whole speech. He talked about how he would fix this country and had many good ideas. Many that you just know would work because they have worked before. Maybe the next time he in on TV you might want to watch and see what he has to say and then make up your mind instead of letting others do it for you.

[msmissydc]

@exitseven Oh ok you are one of those. "only I talk the truth because any information and facts other people know are true are false as my fantasy world is true for me". Yeah thanks no! I try to stay in reality but good luck. Bye

[Anonymous]

Biden are not so insecure that they need merchandise that is made in China.

[Agagagagaga]

external-content.duckduckgo.com/.../

You were saying something about insecure cultists needing merchandise from China?

[OddBeMe]

Kinda my point. We don’t worship the candidate. We have the issues flags

[OddBeMe]

But I’m sure Biden’s merch is made in china, as trumps is. But it doesn’t feature his face and photoshopped muscle mass on everything like a gay nightclub lol

[NaultD]

the president shouldn't be a cult leader. They are of the people by the people including the people that didn't vote for them.

The don can't make voters without demonizing other citizens. That's why he can't make the popular vote. That's why the 2016 election was closer then the 2020.

[OddBeMe]

Very true.

[msc545]

Trumpers like to pretend they are patriots, when in fact they are nothing but traitors just like Trump is.

[OddBeMe]

Yeah I mean traitors is a label I’d certainly call trump. His followers…just dumb.

[exitseven]

Trump supporters are the small business owners. They are the tradesmen and the truck drivers. They are the first responders and the medical professionals. They are the heart of America. America could not get along without them. However the same could not be said about democrats. We could get along just fine without them.

[OddBeMe]

Do you have research that shows this? Or is feel facts?

[exitseven]

I think the country could get along just fine without the welfare class, the professional students, the dishonest media and the public school teachers Not to mention BLM and Antifa terrorists

[msc545]

@exitseven Try getting along without people that take care of you - like me.

[exitseven]

Most of the medical professionals that I know, and I know quite a few because my wife is one are Trump supporters. I live in a moonbat state too.

[OddBeMe]

@exitseven seriously? Do I even need to debate your last post?

[exitseven]

No debate, just fact.

[OddBeMe]

Yeah…sure

www.nytimes.com/.../...rofessionals-push-back.html

[Stoner710]

First off that is an awesome flag (but at the same time I don’t think we should be putting any politician on a flag so mix feeling about that).

to the main point NO ONE LIKES BIDEN, liberals don’t like Biden leftist don’t like Biden and obviously the right any from of them don’t like Biden from the centrist Mick Romney to the white supremacy (yes they vote Republican even though everyone hate those people) and fair right folks like me hate Joe Biden no one likes Joe Biden Joe Biden promise unity the only thing he Unite Americans he’s done that has everybody hates Joe Biden we are united in our hatred of Joe Biden.

now I have a question for you, what are your thoughts on RFK Jr?

[OddBeMe]

Crazy fking anti vaxxer.

[Stoner710]

Define Anti vaxxer.

[msc545]

@Stoner710 Conspiracy theorist and Qanon follower. Crazy as a bedbug.

[goaded]

"Define Anti vaxxer" LOL.

[OddBeMe]

@Stoner710 anti-science morons like yourself that uses science-made products to spread their misinformation.

[Stoner710]

@msc545 ah well I’m not a conspiracy theorist I don’t fallow Qanon and everyone is a little crazy

[msc545]

That is good, but RFK is very different than that and much worse.

[Stoner710]

Who says I’m anti science? It seems like you pick and choose your science, like Biology vs psychology. Biology proves there are physical differences between men and women yet you want men like Leah, Thomas to swim against the girls and go into the girls locker rooms with his twig and berries hanging out and getting hard in front the the girls who are forced to take off there cloths in from of him

[Stoner710]

@msc545 fair he seems to be doing better then Biden in the polls. Everybody hates Biden.

[msc545]

People hate Trump as well.

[RoosterBreast]

Wtf haha.

Here, @OddBeMe, usually it happened in replies to @gorydetails and @Juxtapose opinions but I can post it again, because you seem to run out of nonsense to say whenever I show a small compilation of the "science gods" saying that a vaccinated person completely stops the virus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgKSEGRMoOE

You keep denying that they said it, and when I show it you always stopped replying.

[gorydetails]

@RoosterBreast exactly. "Science" has been corrupted for decades. And Social science is utter nonsence.

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast Viruses evolve. And the vaccines still helped even when they had.

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded do the vaccines completely stop the virus? Does a vaccinated person become a blockage for the virus that prevents it from spreading between other two people?

If not, why did your #1 source of information say that it does exactly this?

Whatever you're trying to say now, is as unscientific as the rest of BS pro vaxxers parrot, trying to defend their dogma.

And what does "science" mean to you anyway?
Here they call it "speed of science" when they force an untested vaccine on the masses, https://youtu.be/A-L5puYiEvo

Does "speed of science" mean forget about real science that has shown the dangers of doing this shit, and just lie to everyone that you have tested it even when you haven't?

@OddBeMe are you sure it is those who question the purpose of covid vaccines that are "unscientific"?

[gorydetails]

@RoosterBreast Let's not forget Goaded, OddBeMe and their ilk were more than happy to segregate society based on a shot that was not tested for its ability to stop transmission of a virus.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails You’re not wrong. But just from large crowds and private businesses. There’s consequences to being anti-science.

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe so not testing a vaccine is science, now? Is that what you're saying? I really can't believe after three years of you being humiliated for being wrong on every stance you took during covid that you're still buying the propaganda. I guess I underestimate your ignorance.

[OddBeMe]

@roosterbreast Yes by 90% as always advertised. Even if you get Covid and are vaxxed, your guaranteed not to die or feel any more than a cough.

If you aren’t vaxxed and get Covid (most common) they actually give you the vaccine as a treatment.

Or haven’t you seen the millions of apology videos from anti vaxxers who got sick and survived…via the vaccine.

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast Do they? No. Did they? There was a very good chance before the variants came along.

Did they cause more health problems than the virus? No.

Did they make serious illness and death less likely? Yes.

Did they reduce spread? Yes.

Did they test them? Yes, on tens of thousands of people.

Will that show up things that happen to one in a 100,000? No. But how many more months of testing while people were dying by the thousands every day would make sense?

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails They did moron. Which is how they found out Johnson and Johnson’s had a.01% chance to give you brain cancer or whatevs. And took it off the market.

[goaded]

@gorydetails If you don't get sick, you're less likely to pass on the virus. The one that you were claiming would only kill half a million Americans, even if everyone caught it before the vaccines even existed. Remember what you were saying?

[gorydetails]

@goaded Wait, you morons were whining about asymptomatic spread, now you're saying that if you don't get sick you're less likely to pass on the virus. Which is it?

[goaded]

@gorydetails Both, of course. Why do you think it's an either-or thing?

[gorydetails]

@goaded then, as I said, the shot didn't prevent transmission of the virus. Despite being advertised that it did.

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded you know the real reason there weren't any published studies. It's not because they were in such a hurry to provide the best that they've had even if it's toxic.

No, it is that all studies that were conducted, were like this: https://youtu.be/RaLxhFiOBYk

And why was she fired, if as you believe, their only goal is to save lives?

[goaded]

@gorydetails No, you were insisting that only half a million Americans could possibly die from the virus, well before there was any vaccine. 0.15% ring a bell? That was your "scientific" certainty.

[exitseven]

I thought the flag was a little over the top as well. I like the one I saw yesterday that just said Trump 2024.

[gorydetails]

@goaded yes, I wholly underestimated the ability of the medical community to kill people with Redemisvir.

[RoosterBreast]

@exitseven you blocked me and I can't see what you wrote unless I log into my alt account @dil-phobe.

[gorydetails]

@goaded And let's not forget the lie of all deaths with covid being counted as covid deaths.

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast "why was she fired, if as you believe, their only goal is to save lives? "
Well, what were the pressures on the companies?

1. In September 2020, getting on for a thousand Americans were dying a day, down from over 1,000 in August.
2. A couple of months later, that had risen to over 3,000 a day
3. The Trump administration were demanding a result

How long do you delay releasing a vaccine that has done well in tests, when thousands are dying every day? A week (22,000 deaths)? Two? Three?

The vaccine is still available, despite now having been used on hundreds of millions of people, and the effects examined. It's obviously not as dangerous as you'd like to pretend.

[goaded]

@Stoner710 I refer you back to: "Define Anti vaxxer" LOL.

These guys.

[goaded]

@gorydetails "And let's not forget the lie of all deaths with covid being counted as covid deaths."
You mean, back when the PCR tests couldn't tell the difference between covid and flu?

Wouldn't that reduce the early death count in New York? Florida's already #10 for deaths per capita, NY is at #16.

[gorydetails]

@goaded ‘we can’t tell whether this is covid or flu, better count it as covid”, lol. Jesus Christ.

[RoosterBreast]

@gorydetails lol insane how he thinks getting that researcher fired is the way to speed up the distribution of vaccines.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails If HIV lowers your immune system and you die of the flu. What killed your: HIV or the Flu?

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe flu.

[RoosterBreast]

Are you hinting at how getting the shot, they promised free fast food meals?

[gorydetails]

@RoosterBreast These two are the holdouts still wearing masks. Just remember that.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Ah, so you've moved on to simple lying because you have nothing else.

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded let's continue the last @OddBeMe reply then.

If getting a shot promises you free fast food meals, is the goal of this whole thing to heighten your immune system capabilities or lower it?

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast How about we talk about your misrepresentation: "he thinks getting that researcher fired is the way to speed up the distribution of vaccines.", instead?

What I really said was that there was immense pressure to take shortcuts (because of up to 5,000-20,000 Americans a week dying), and that the end result was something that saved hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails firstly I’m not wearing masks unless there are others wearing them. Just politeness. Second, you say flu even tho HIV infected their immunity?

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded yes, and you're repeating it. You're stating that they did the optimal thing, and the dangerous conditions which she described were necessary, that is what you're implying.

[RoosterBreast]

@OddBeMe I guess that's because this "scientist" here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgKSEGRMoOE

Told everyone that once you're vaccinated you need no more masks.

And if HIV kills, then the person who passed it to you also kills. Then the engineers who build weapons kill the person in whom the bullet lands. Is that what you're saying?

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe. Ah, so your understanding of “science” is “I follow peer pressure”, lol. Yes, they died of the flu. If they hadn’t gotten the flu they wouldn’t have died.

[OddBeMe]

@RoosterBreast @gorydetails
Just watched the video. I heard some bravado about the vax but 99% what was said is pretty much right. Again, within the 90% rate that was stated at the beginning. So yeah we have very rare outliers but NO deaths from Covid if you’re VAXXED

[gorydetails]

Wait, if you die of a heart attack after getting the covid shot, according to your logic they died from the shot.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails yes that would be correct. It CAUSED it. But that doesn’t happen with vaxxes.

[RoosterBreast]

So it is said at least 80% of US adults received at least one shot.

Is it safe to say that whenever anyone dies, by @OddBeMe logic 80% of the time the vaccine has killed them?

[OddBeMe]

@RoosterBreast no. Because one dose isn’t enough shitbird. It was in your own fckin video

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe you can’t have it both ways.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails I don’t have it anyway. I’m liberal. If we got 70% of the country injected with two doses when the vaxxes came out we’d have saved a half million Americans from dying.

And you right win fcks, like always, think magically everything is 100%. As was said when they came out, the vaxes are 90% effective and will wear off. Like flue shots. But wholly smokes! They have an above 90% batting average against Covid and are actually treatments to unvaxxed fcks who get Covid.

And my father in law got Covid being totally vaxxed. It happens. He didn’t get sick. They gave him a booster and it went away. And he’s extremely less likely to have spread it to anyone unlike your sick ass.

Any other questions?

[gorydetails]

That’s not what was said you lying POS.

[RoosterBreast]

How is he extremely less likely to spread it when he's asymptomatic?

And if he's not sick, then he better not get excess vaxes because over 160 studies prove that natural immunity is superior in protecting, as well as other studies proving it less likely to cause mutant variants.

brownstone.org/.../

[OddBeMe]

@RoosterBreast you think you can’t spread a virus unless you’re symptomatic? Seriously?

[OddBeMe]

And your brownstone fails to talk about (or I missed it) that if we waited for natural immunity millions more would die. As I said, if we got 70% of Americans with two doses, natural immunity could be a possibility.

[RoosterBreast]

@OddBeMe what the fuck is this reply meant to say? That's the opposite of what I stated from my first reply here.

Your lord and "scientist" said that you need no more masks or social distancing as soon as you're vaccinated.

[OddBeMe]

@RoosterBreast yeah and lots of other things that changed. Science doesn’t change dipshit? We don’t freak out at a million Americans dying?

[gorydetails]

@RoosterBreast That’s the best part of all this. Asymptomatic people were plague rats according to these spineless NPC’s, but odd’s grandpa is allowed to run around everywhere in public because he “didn’t get sick” from the covid shots

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails uhhh nah, unvaxxed are the plague rats. By far.
www.npr.org/.../u-s-covid-deaths-are-rising-again-experts-call-it-a-pandemic-of-the-unvaccinated

[RoosterBreast]

Why haven't I died then? Over 3 years of a... slow asymptomatic death?

And why did you write an hour ago that your father in law is extremely less likely to spread it, all while claiming that the vaccine makes you totally asymptomatic?

[OddBeMe]

@RoosterBreast (slaps face) What’s the mortality rate of the infected? Not 100% dumbass. But I guarantee you and Joel-shitbird have spread it to someone who has got deathly ill. Hopefully they survived.

[RoosterBreast]

But you said vaccines make people asymptomatic. So how then are you less likely to spread it?

[OddBeMe]

@RoosterBreast no don’t believe I said that. You’re less likely to get deathly ill. In my father in laws case he didn’t get ill at all. I think.

[OddBeMe]

And again for the last fcking time…asymptomatic aholes like you can still spread the virus.

Kinda like the stds you prob have from all the hookers.

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe suuuuurre. But you dipshits actually held the position that an unvaxxed asymptomatic person should be restricted from society but vaxxed person with covid should not be.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Why do you keep talking about situations that are long gone as if they're current?

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded you're still saying it 12h ago.

i.ibb.co/.../Screenshot-20230708-102156-Chrome.jpg

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails yeah because they’re 90% LESS LIKELY to spread it. ALL Covid spikes have been linked to unvaxxed fcks like you.

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast That wasn't me, but I admit I misread "held" as "hold".

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe. So an asymptomatic non vaxxed person spreads COVID but an asymptomatic vaxxed person does not. Got it The best part is you think this is science. Like how COVID can’t get you if your sitting at a table in a restaurant but can get you on the walk from the host stand which is why you tools wore masks.

[OddBeMe]

@RoosterBreast I love when right wingers post from peer reviewed medical journals like the BMJ when it suits their interests…then completely rejects its other research. Like take the fcking VAX.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails it’s called crowds. And at a table you can eat without a mask since most restaurants socially distance.

And yes, you are 90% less likely to spread the virus if your are vaxxed. I don’t know why you can’t get this through your thick fcking skull.

And dying from a cold whilst having Covid means you died from Covid you fcking moron.

[gorydetails]

Baahhhahaha, you’re just lying. Ok, so dying after having the covid shot means you died from the covid shot. Easy peasy.

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe and you understand the 6’ social distancing was wholly made up, right? you understand at leas at that, right? Right?

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails everything is “made up” you fckin moron. God didn’t come down and hand us Covid rules. There just broad outlines from not breathing in unvaxxed air and spit from the loser named Joel

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe. That’s not the dunk you think it is. There was no scientific basis for 6’ social distancing. But thanks for confirming you’re an automiton who does nothing that he’s not programmed to do by your dem leaders.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Nothing, apart from the inverse square law. Don't tell me you're so stupid that you think you're no more likely to catch something airborne from someone inches away from your face than across a room? The specific distances are arbitrary compromises between safety and practicability, but they're not pointless.

This is your "it's not 100% perfect, so it must be 100% worthless" broken logic showing itself again. Facts be damned.

[RoosterBreast]

@gorydetails yes, you need two masks when driving by yourself in a car with closed windows.

@OddBeMe because the "science god" from this video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pgKSEGRMoOE
Allowed us to take the masks off, and wouldn't care if you were fingering strangers, as long as you're vaccinated.

What science is there, to support your "vaccines make you asymptomatic and block transmission."

There is lots of science against vaccines, the mutation likelyhood increases, reinfection too, and most people I've known to take it have gotten sick from the vaccine itself.
If you think having an immunity against the virus makes you less likely to spread it somehow, then natural immunity is proven superior by hundreds of studies that I already linked.

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast Where did you link to these "hundreds of studies"? And you have to survive the first infection to get "natural immunity". Not getting a second infection because you're dead from the first isn't as good as it sounds.

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded the studies: brownstone.org/.../

So do you agree that for anyone who happened to survive the latest variant and has already natural immunity, doesn't need the vaccine?

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast Hm, McMasters university rings a bell.

Paul Elias Alexander: "Within the Trump Administration, Alexander advocated for a strategy of mass infection of the public with COVID-19 to build herd immunity. He sought to muzzle federal scientists and public health agencies to prevent them from contradicting the Trump Administration's political talking points."

In other words: "do nothing and suppress contradictory voices".

That was a terrible strategy, wouldn't you agree? (By March 2021 one in 60 Americans who caught the virus had died; that could have been over five million dead Americans, instead of "just" a million or so.)

Since the majority of people have now been vaccinated, being exposed again will probably boost your immune system, so artifical boosters might not be necessary any more, although natural immunity fades, as well as "artificial" immunity. I'll accept my doctor's advice in that regard, whatever they say.

In no way does today's situation justify the anti-vaxx movement in 2021.

What is your position on the MMR vaccine?

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded

"Dr. Paul Alexander is an epidemiologist focusing on clinical epidemiology, evidence-based medicine, and research methodology. He has a master's in epidemiology from University of Toronto, and a master's degree from Oxford University. He earned his PhD from McMaster's Department of Health Research Methods, Evidence, and Impact. He has some background training in Bioterrorism/Biowarfare from John's Hopkins, Baltimore, Maryland. Paul is a former WHO Consultant and Senior Advisor to US Department of HHS in 2020 for the COVID-19 response."

In other words, he is a scientist, more of a biology specialized scientist than Bill Gates. Why do you trust the scientist here?

And now that you said "Why do you keep talking about situations that are long gone as if they're current?" - about asymptomatic spread, it implies agree that vaccines do not stop transmission?

And why do you still think that vaccinating the young, and middle aged has helped reduce the deaths to "one million or so instead of over five", when most dying people were elderly?
It used to be labeled "grandma killer" because only old people seemed to die, but now knowing that vaccines do not stop transmission, what makes the vaccinated young man any less of a grandma killer?

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast So you don't agree that doing nothing to gain "herd immunity" was a terrible strategy?

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded Paul Alexander is a qualified scientist with multiple master's degrees in epidemiology, and a former WHO consultant and senior advisor to US department of health and human services. I'm not. Who am I to agree or disagree with science and authority?

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast No doctorate? Regardless, the UK had someone similar. The idea of doing nothing doesn't seem like a bad approach to a pandemic to you? Really?

Whatever. You also asked "why do you still think that vaccinating the young, and middle aged has helped reduce the deaths to "one million or so instead of over five", when most dying people were elderly? "

Simply because before the vaccines came out, one in 60 Americans were dying of the virus. One in 60 is five and a half million Americans (assuming everyone got infected by the original strain). Encouraging everyone to get infected to gain "herd immunity" would have not just killed that many, but also packed out the hospitals so that people couldn't get the care they needed, so the number in practice would have been much higher. Even at this point, only one in three Americans have been knowingly infected.

Remember: more working age people died of covid in 2020 than old people in any really bad flu year since 1920.

[OddBeMe]

@RoosterBreast you can absolutely listen and take in what he says. But science is a wide angle. You also have to listen to everyone else. And right now, no one is buying his crap. Still free to speak out.

[gorydetails]

"Science" that Oddbeme follows says it's dangerous to eat in a restaurant, so you can eat outside of a restaurant. But then it's too cold to eat outside, so you can put walls and a roof over outside. Then you're still safe.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails I don’t know where science keeps “telling” you things. The cdc will out out quick tips. Like approaching a crowd, slide that mask on.

You fcks think science is Illuminati don’t you?

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe and where did the CDC get their "quick tips"?

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails from the wizard box in “Big”. They pop in a quarter and get a tip.

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe See, it's not so hard for you to admit that you squawking for these dumb rules for two years is because you were a coward who can't think for himself. SO you screeched to follow CDC guidelines so you could be best at following the rules.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails no it’s quite easy. Because the cdc gathers a network of experts who at the start of the pandemic say we should social distance and where masks jnc. And then make unfounded mistakes like not spreading the virus if you’re vaxxed. Really it’s 10% only spread the virus if their vaxxed as it works 90% of the time.

[OddBeMe]

But why are you so against scientific thought? It’s like a reflex with you guys? Part of your identity to hate scientists…whilst being on the internet (chuckle)

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe Ah, "expert" the most nonsensical term ever. So which expert decided you should eat outside but it was ok to put a roof and walls around the outside eating area and that's somehow different from eating inside?

Were these the same experts that said that masks were not effective? Or were these the same experts who sued companies for selling masks in 1q2020 and claiming they would stop covid transmission? Or were these the experts that claimed you should be disinfecting your groceries and leaving them in the garage for three days? Or were these the experts who claimed a BLM rally was not a super spreader event? Or maybe the experts who claimed you had to stay inside your house instead of going outside and getting sunshine and exercise.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails just a spew of bullshit. And it might be true, just irrelevant. 80% of science (experts) is a mistake. You seem stuck on this restaurant thing…maybe it was a debate you saw on Fox News between “scientists”. But that’s actually a good think. From debate comes truth. But it has to be backed up.

So now, eating indoors is fine. Not wearing a mask most the time is fine. There are standards in masks, like N95 is what I made a whole marketing campaign on for a client.

[RoosterBreast]

No studies has ever shown that "vax works 90% of the times so only 10% vax spread the virus"
No study has shown it to reduce transmission.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Do you never get tired of lying?

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe Every thing I typed happened, you just want to gaslight and pretend it didn't happen. No, there wasn't a debate. The mandates were given without debate. Now you're starting to see the problem.

Of course, you scammed people by supporting N95s to prevent covid. No wonder you're such a fucking shill.

The same "experts" approved Oxycontin because it was "non-addictive". Just remember that.

[gorydetails]

@goaded Find the lie. I'll wait.

[goaded]

@gorydetails "experts that said that masks were not effective"

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded you probably consider fauci an expert - he said they're effective and ineffective, both, in a short period of time. "They don't offer nearly as much protection as people think."

And then that study early this year was published, saying masks had 0 positive impact.

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast I see you're avoiding answering my questions.

Fauci has been an expert for decades. Shit masks are shit, proper ones help, and it's politics that stopped people wearing them.

"Health experts are urging the public to opt for three-ply surgical masks, KN95 masks or N95 masks, which offer more protection against the highly contagious [omicron] variant."
eu.usatoday.com/.../

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast Just a reminder: The idea of doing nothing doesn't seem like a bad approach to a pandemic to you? Really?

[gorydetails]

@goaded In one message, Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, replies to an email from Sylvia Burwell, believed to be the Sylvia Burwell who was health and human services secretary for three years under President Barack Obama. Burwell had asked for advice about wearing face masks while traveling. Fauci's reply is dated February 5, 2020, and is available in a document cloud provided by Buzzfeed.

Fauci wrote: "Masks are really for infected people to prevent them from spreading infection to people who are not infected rather than protecting uninfected people from acquiring infection.

"The typical mask you buy in the drug store is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through material. It might, however, provide some slight benefit in keep out gross droplets if someone coughs or sneezes on you."

He added: "I do not recommend that you wear a mask, particularly since you are going to a very low risk location."

[gorydetails]

@goa

[gorydetails]

@goaded and his infamous 60 minutes video.

[goaded]

@gorydetails There were about 20 people infected in the US at the time, and he said it might help.

[goaded]

He also said it would help if the wearerr was infected.

[gorydetails]

@goaded "Might". lol.

[goaded]

So, your answer to "Do you never get tired of lying?" is No.

[gorydetails]

@goaded no lies detected. You calling inconvenient facts "lies" doesn't mean they are.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Your lie, dumbass, is that all masks are the same: "Researchers at Duke University conducted a study last year to see which mask was the most effective. The N95 masks were the most effective in blocking respiratory droplets – 99% to be exact. Second-best? Surgical masks." eu.usatoday.com/.../

How about you: do you think doing nothing in the face of the pandemic and allowing nature to priduce herd immunity would have been a good idea?

[gorydetails]

@goaded I do not think that doing "nothing" would have been a good idea. There's a difference between doing "nothing" and doing stupid shit in the name of "Im HELPING" which is the vast majority of what you advocated.

We could have told people at the start that the elderly were the most vulnerable. As were people deficient in vitamin D, were overweight, and had other mitigating factors. We could have instantly banned the chemicals in our food (approved by the government) that are keeping us unhealthy, and told people (hell, fucking ship out pills) to take vitamins, especially C, D, and Zinc. We could have taken the money we threw away in PPP loan scams and told companies "If you let people stay home while they are sick without penalty, we will compensate you for their salary" and allowed people to sue their employer if they lost their job for taking sick days. We could have told people to get exercise daily. We could have kept covid patients out of nursing homes. We could have kept people off of remdesivir and ventilators. We could have stopped this nonsense of keeping people in the hospital with covid isolated, knowing that time and time again real scientific studies have shown that getting emotional support from loved ones helps people heal from disease. We could have not ruined an entire generation of children because of adult's paranoia.

If you actually knew a person in healthcare, you'd know what procedures you have to go through to have that N95 be 95% effective. hint, it's not the same as some dipshit in the walmart wearing the same one for 6 months.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails why do I keep seeing the same bullshit, yet you care nothing for the ongoing new scandals-a-day-Trump?

Also you’re expecting humans to be perfect and blaming them for stupid shit.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Ah, so your position has moderated. Now, instead of 100%, it's "if it's not 95% effective, it's 0% effective".

So, overnight, the country should have forced food companies to remove chemicals you don't like from food, got everyone to take vitamins, lose weight and live healthier. Presumably healthier than the 27 year old Olympic swimmer who was hospitalised with covid.

Can you imagine the reaction of people like you to being told to do those things, considering the fuss you are still making over being asked to wear masks in crowded places?

You're ridiculous.

[OddBeMe]

@goaded I hate being an “automiton” when explaining vaccines to dumb fcks,

[gorydetails]

@goaded They managed to lock people in their homes, produce tons of plexiglas (which, again, amazing science you cunts came up with to stop disease) arrest people who were outside, print trillions for PPP loans to be scammed, countless useless PCR tests, trillions of paper masks to make you idiots think you’r helping, and a shot that was ineffective, and concentrati.. er quarantine camps overnight. So yeah, they could have done something worthwhile with the time.

You’re overdue for a booster.

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe. Ah yes, you understand vaccines completely. That’s why you needed 4 boosters in a year for a shot and still got covid. Idiot.

[goaded]

@gorydetails You think that putting people on a ventilator was a waste of time, too. Ridiculous.

[gorydetails]

@goaded Yup. and Remdesivir. Coincidentally, the same man who killed people with AZT during the aids crisis killed people this time, too.

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded "chemicals you don't like"
-There is more authentic science on the harm of these chemicals and necessity of exercise and vitamin d than you'll ever have time in your life study.

Yet it was illegal to recommend elevating your vitamin D levels to improve your chances with covid, provax or antivax.

So fucking dumb. It's like you'll be giving an animal nothing but plain water to drink and injecting it with insulin and growth hormones, expecting it to gain weight... all while the animal doesn't eat any food. That's how dumb it is to vaccinate people with bad eating habits.

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast A 27 year old Olympic swimmer was hospitalised with covid. Do you think they weren't fit and healthy? Being fit and healthy and eating well is good, but it won't save you from a virus. Not to mention it takes time and effort to have an effect.

Do you think either of you two or other Americans would have accepted orders from the government to do those things when you wouldn't even put on masks? The hell you would.

There has been over a century of experience with vaccinations, and they work.

[gorydetails]

Look at mr “Eating healthy and exercising isn’t 100% effective at preventing you from going to the hospital with covid so we shouldn’t do it”.

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded the rate of people who eat right and exercise, getting sick from covid, is far lower than people getting sick from the vaccine.

Like, an athlete doesn't mean healthy. It means often food given by sponsors, the food that contains artificial sweeteners and is made 90% from corn. That's what these athletes promote, and occasionally they take performance enhancing drugs to emulate someone who actually is healthy.

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast No, it's not, and athletes don't eat the products they promote.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Look at Mr. I can't read where I explicitly said "Being fit and healthy and eating well is good, but it won't save you from a virus."

[gorydetails]

@goaded Who stated it would "save" you? Certainly these shots don't "save" you.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Certainly? Every bit of evidence says that they help to, or are you back to "if it's not 100% effective it's 0% effective"?

[gorydetails]

@goaded I've never said that, idiot. That's you putting words in my mouth. For elderly these gene therapy shots may provide some protection. But absolutely do not prevent transmission, should absolutely never be mandated, and people who choose not to get them should never be excluded from society (all things you fascists want). The lies told about these shots need to stop immediately so that people can have informed consent. (like all the BS about Pfizer's shots being FDA approved despite no one being able to get them).

If you shits had been honest from the start, maybe you wouldn't be getting the wrath you deserve now.

[goaded]

@gorydetails It's what you say almost every time you open your mouth. Are seatbelts worthwhile? They're not 100% effective. And I remember you touting the scientist that claimed an IFR of 0.15%, which would have meant half a million American dead if everyone caught the original virus without being vaccinated, and that was supposedly the "average global" IFR; the US should have beaten that. Instead, with only a third of Americans testing positive, a million died. Peru, the worst hit, has had nearly twice as many deaths per capita.

Guess what? The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees. I don't know about you, but I had a choice of vaccines, and got Pfizer.

[RoosterBreast]

@gorydetails lol. "Were never mandated..."

[goaded]

@gorydetails It's what you say about masks, vaccines, distancing, but, sure, ask for help. Here's the paper you were touting a couple of years ago: onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13554

The actual figure in Feb 2021 was 1.7% IFR. Your guy was off by a factor of ten.
web.archive.org/.../

Employers requiring something is not the same as a global mandate, idiot. Does everyone have to be able to speak Spanish because some schools require that of their teachers?

[gorydetails]

@goaded Bro, you’re not pulling out of this one. You embarrassed yourself again, time to stop.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Oh, this is the phase of the conversation where you try to pretend up is down. Got it.

[OddBeMe]

@goaded Don’t worry, when Joel says that he’s losing the argument.

[OddBeMe]

@RoosterBreast by the way, was anything mandated? Vax, or masks? Private businesses and cities just made you have them in certain areas.

[goaded]

I noticed two years ago when he was talking about an absolute maximum of half a million American dead, less with good health care.

[gorydetails]

@goaded I understand what the word “mandated” means. Unlike you two smooth brains.

[gorydetails]

@goaded And I said i underestimated Fauci’s desire to kill people. I stand by my mistake.

[goaded]

@gorydetails So, somehow, in your tiny little mind, keeping people apart, masking, vaccinating increased the deadliness of the virus as its variants became less deadly? You're ridiculous.

[OddBeMe]

Why Fauci? He had no power? Just disagreed with your master.

[gorydetails]

@goaded how did the variants become less deadly? Magic? Lol. What day did the definition of th word ‘mandate’ have to include every country on the planet? Within a week is fine. Bahhahahahahahah

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe fauci had no power? On what planet do you live?

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails I’m looking at his jobs and he was like liason and PR for cdc or something. But over the rules or the vaxxes, what did he do?

[goaded]

@gorydetails That's an amazingly weak answer, even for you. Also another example of your desire to believe that everything under 100% is 0%: "every country on the planet"? Seriously? Not every American was required to have a vaccine, and they could choose to quit and not have one.

Anything over 0% is 100%, if you want it, anything under 100% is 0%, if you don't.

Masks work, vaccines work, distancing works, seatbelts work. People still die, but fewer of them.

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe Will he authorized the funding that went into the wuhan lab that created Covid-19. He was a major influencer (if not the influencer) of government policy, and spouted numerous lies and mistruths…. remember the famous “An attack on me is an attack on science?” Maybe you want to downplay his involvement - which makes sense considering you hitched your wagon to his bullshit and you want to save your fragile ego, but he certainly was full of his importance.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails oh god…that was like so many people involved. And such a nothing. But ok…

Prob a good investment huh?

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe are you claiming he’s a nothing? A good investment is releasing a deadly virus on the world?

[RoosterBreast]

Private businesses are but one target of the covid operation, and many had been forced to shut down for not accepting vaccinations/masks.

[goaded]

@gorydetails No, idiot, I claimed it wasn't a mandate because it wasn't for every American. And the vaccines saved millions your "scientist" claimed wouldn't have been harmed if nothing had been done.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Not going to bother with your lies any more until the morning.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails Mandates from govt are supposed to cover every American moron.

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe show me where i said it was a government mandate. I’ll wait.

[OddBeMe]

Then who mandates it? Like I said it was private businesses and municipal properties.

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe. Weird this author knows what a mandate is

www.militarytimes.com/.../

[OddBeMe]

You don’t think the military is govt? The president runs the military.

[OddBeMe]

But that was a mandate I forgot about. There was none for citizens but for soldiers etc. Unfort they give up a lot of citizenship privileges. I think soldiers should be tried in civilian courts for example

[goaded]

@gorydetails "... healthcare became a political football, ... COVID disinformation spread and caught fire, stoking deepening mistrust of government among wide segments of American society.

More than 17,000 service members balked at taking the shots, ... spurred by misinformation... The more the controversy raged in the news, the more troops asked to skip the shots, Military Times reporting found.

... officials warned that repealing it would affect military readiness, potentially putting service members at risk of serious illness. DoD officials believe the shots worked: Not a single service member has died of COVID-19 since early 2022, when more than 98% of the active duty force had been at least partially vaccinated."
www.militarytimes.com/.../ (Your link.)

[gorydetails]

@goaded @oddbeme. So we’re clear, these were mandates that you two claimed didn’t happen.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Just to be clear, here's the first thing I said about mandates in this conversation: "Guess what? The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees."

Add Odd said: "... was anything mandated? Vax, or masks? Private businesses and cities just made you have them in certain areas. "

Certain jobs and areas have certain rules. You're the one trying to make out the federal government imposed mandates on all the people.

[gorydetails]

@goaded No, that’s you trying to bullshit. Yes, the first thing you said was idiotic. “They were never mandated except where they were..”

And you think this is insightful. Lol.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Were masks or covid vaccines mandated to all Americans? Yes or no.

[gorydetails]

@goaded Completely irrelevant. You said something "never" occurred, then directly contradicted yourself with examples. No amount of your autistic screeching will change that fact.

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded even donna trump, the most controversial Republican president, (they're puppets anyway) promised to use the military to force vaccinate the entire america. I guess part of the reason he didn't is Americans still got some home defense, and not all soldiers are immoral enough to execute it.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Why can't you answer a yes/no question with a simple yes or no?

Were masks or covid vaccines mandated to all Americans? Yes or no.

[gorydetails]

@goaded I won't answer your question because it's a nonsensical question. You said something NEVER happened. For your help, the definition of the word never is "at no time in the past or future; on no occasion; not ever." But we have ample evidence that some organizations and the US military (and the entirety of the US required airline travelers to take these shots all the way until 2 months ago) mandated these shots.

So you saying "never" was factually incorrect. Anything else you say after that is your lame attempt to try to get yourself out of the corner you painted yourself into.

So keep asking the same dumb question, none of it changes the facts, and I will not answer.

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast Did you mean Trump didn't? No president would ever have tried "to use the military to force vaccinate the entire america", it would be illegal, and unreasonable.

Not that Trump's above considering the military to do unreasonable, illegal things.

By the way, ANY president would have thrown money at getting vaccines available as quickly as possible. Most of them wouldn't have waited for months before being seen wearing a mask in public.

[goaded]

@gorydetails I think you just can't stand to admit obvious facts. The answer is "no", there was never a mandate for all Americans to get vaccinated or wear masks.

I explained the limited mandates that did happen the first time I mentioned mandates, and you've been shouting about how wrong I was and how I supposedly said there were never mandates ever since.

Your rather pathetic insults always come out when you realise you're wrong.

[gorydetails]

@goaded The word mandate doesn't imply that "ALL AMERICANS" had to follow something. There's no definition of the word that requires that condition. I never gave any indication that I was implying that. There's zero part of this where I'm wrong.

[goaded]

@gorydetails I said from the start that there were mandates in certain jobs and places: "Guess what? The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees."

You've been shouting about how I was somehow completely wrong ever since.

Perhaps, if you ever admitted facts or that you were ever wrong about anything (like believing the guy whose estimates of the deaths from original covid were a factor of ten or more too low, or that reducing transmission of a disease is a good thing, even if it doesn't stop it completely, or that when you're talking about masks being useless, you're referring to things like single-layer cloth masks, not N95 or surgical masks), people would be willing to meet you half way.

But you won't, because you prefer shouting at people and insulting them over coming to agreement.

[gorydetails]

@goaded Right, so the second you say there were mandates, the word "never" was invalid. So try again.

[goaded]

@gorydetails See what I mean? Did it even occur to you to ask me to clarify what appeared to you to be a self-contradictory statement?

Any reasonable person reading what I wrote would conclude I was talking about vaccines or masks being mandated for all or most Americans, as opposed to the limited examples I listed, not that I can't keep an idea for the duration of a single sentence.

It's nothing like the purposeful misinformation you keep repeating. (To be fair, I don't know if it's you or you're just repeating misinformation you've read or heard online.)

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded "science changed." "science changed." "science changed." "science changed." "science changed." "And yet, anything that dares to contradict the current model we the globalist are pushing, is misinformation."

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast Uh, no, he's been pushing misinformation for years. Yes, science changes, which is why scientists admit when they're wrong. Unlike @gorydetails/@joeldalton.

At 0.15% infection fatality rate, at most half a million Americans would have died, even if every single man woman and child in America had been infected with that strain. Rather than admitting that he was wrong (it's still only one in three infected, and over a million dead), he blames a medication that certainly wasn't given to half the people who died.

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded I personally know way way way more cases when a person died from accidents. Like a car crash. And was labeled "covid death." Way more than actually a person dying from a cytokine storm.

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast Of course you do.

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast @RoosterBreast And what does that have to do with @gorydetails' misinformation?

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded as I understand, @gorydetails is questioning the statistics. He probably has friends and relatives who've passed during the past 3 and a half years, and whichever cause of death it was, it's possible that a "covid test" was performed to count it as a covid death. I know it happened. I know people who jumped on the opportunity to cash in, when governments paid to covid victims.

I wasn't on this site to see what @joeldalton was posting at the beginning of covid lockdowns. I remember #FilmYourHospital where people showed on camera, straight up livestream, of footage being made in their hospital with covid victims and care takers in hazmat suits rolling out dead bodies, and the social media poster would enter the exact hospital that the news is being filmed at, and show the behind-the-scenes how the actors laugh about it and it's all staged.

[gorydetails]

@goaded I don’t need you to clarify. You said there was never a shot mandate and it’s demonstrably false. Now you’re thrashing around like a fish out of water trying to justify your idiocy. All of your distractions are just that.

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast No, he's not, he's bullshitting. Always has been.

What if it turns out the masks (except N95) are completely worthless? ↗

Ironically, at the time Trump was saying "only" 3% of people infected died. He was wrong (and surprisingly in the right direction), it was about half that, but that was still ten times the 0.15% @gorydetails' favourite scientist, John P. A. Ioannidis, was claiming.

(The proper answer to What if it turns out the masks (except N95) are completely worthless? ↗ is, with 2 years hindsight: wear N95 masks in crowded areas; they cost less than a dollar and can be re-used if you don't wear them all day, like just for shopping.)

You can compare with what I was saying about that time (with limited information)
The COVID-19 statistic Trump is hanging his hat on. ↗ (this was probably when Trump was giving his interview to Woodward, saying it was airborne, but not telling the American people).

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast By the way, that tag made it here as well: Have you been to a hospital (in an area reported to have many COVID19 cases) in the past couple weeks? ↗ I think the best point was "Why would a person who did not HAVE to be in a hospital environment where there's COVID-19, voluntarily go to one?"

Would you go to an Ebola ward for an ingrown toenail? (I exaggerate,)

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast Now @gorydetails has said: "I don’t need you to clarify. You said there was never a shot mandate and it’s demonstrably false. Now you’re thrashing around like a fish out of water trying to justify your idiocy. All of your distractions are just that."

Do you think he's still only "questioning the statistics", or is he pretending that I didn't mention limited mandates?

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast Here's his guy's views on Australia:

"Then 2022 saw a steep increase in deaths and, if you take Economist, Australia has >15,000 excess deaths as of mid-July 2022 and steeply rising. If that trajectory continues it may soon catch up with most western European countries especially if one accounts for the fact that Australia has a lower proportion of elderly people (16% over 65, as opposed to 22-23% in Germany and Italy). "
sensiblemed.substack.com/.../john-ioannidis-the-pandemic-as-of

Australia has had, by today, 22,060 deaths in 26 million population: 846 per million.

The US: 3,490.
Germany: 2,078.
Italy: 3,167.

If you can't see Ioannidis' desperation to validate his claims, I don't know what to say.

[gorydetails]

@goaded you said there was never a mandate you dork.

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded I have seen videos of violent reactions of literally the people who pretended to be sick, acting behind the scenes freaking out on the social media influencers for filming the proof that they're faking the hospital scenes.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Once again, you ignore the second half of the very same sentence and pretend it doesn't exist in order to distract from all the lies and misinformation you're been peddling for years now. Here's what I said: "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees."

Was the IFR of the original covid-19 virus 0.15%, like you used to think, or more like 1.5% (which is still half what Trump was claiming early on)?

Have you adjusted your opinion at all, based on two years of further information? I doubt it, because you refuse to understand anything that isn't 100% one way or another.

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast Have you now? Where are they?

[gorydetails]

@goaded I’ve acknowledged the whole time you were full of shit when you said there weren’t mandates. So we are back to my original point. It’s wholly immoral to mandate a shot that doesn’t prevent the spread of disease.

[goaded]

@gorydetails It's lies and misinformation, all the time with you. You never admit being wrong. It's really sad.

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded is it a problem of you not believing it happened or it being insignificant? The video may or may not be downloaded on my old device, maybe still somewhere available online.

[gorydetails]

@goaded. Let’s see you tell me there’s weren’t mandates again.

[RoosterBreast]

We can go the other way too. I'm a crazy fucking conspiracy theorist.

Exactly 911 days went by after WHO declared a global pandemic until Elizabeth died in September last year.

Elizabeth died 201 days after testing positive to covid.

Bill gates simulation exercise at John Hopkins was called "event 201"...

I could make a thousand such references. More than a thousand.

Elizabeth died exactly the 1110th minute of the day...
She was born on the 111th day of the year...
There are 111 days left in the year after September 11.

Seems significant without studying the meanings of these numbers.

Are you interested in more? These things aren't coincidences. I can prove it further.

[goaded]

@gorydetails FFS: "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees." is not saying "there’s weren’t mandates", it says exactly the opposite, in detail. Any sane person would interpret the first part as implying "for everyone", because you'd have to be an idiot to read it any other way.

@roosterbreast Were you trying to prove your point that you're "a crazy fucking conspiracy theorist"? All I wanted was to see these videos so that I could look for context. It's not like the right is above posting misleading video, when they're not making it up altogether.

[gorydetails]

@goaded You’d have to be an idiot to think the word mandate’ means it has to cover everyone.

[goaded]

@gorydetails That's your sad response to ""The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees." is not saying "there’s weren’t mandates", it says exactly the opposite, in detail. Any sane person would interpret the first part as implying "for everyone", because you'd have to be an idiot to read it any other way."

Keep showing that you're an idiot.

[gorydetails]

@goaded I never implied they were mandated for everyone in the first place, dipshit. So there was no reason for you to contradict that point. You just are trying to make your dumb statement sound like you meant that all the time.

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded I have links to dozens of videos. They're all 100% mysteriously gone.

Some say they're made private, others say the channel is terminated, and others give unknown messages like the YouTube just lost the video somehow.

I still got some through the archives. For example the British woman confronting the actors in their hazmat suits, there were MANY MORE with much more detail literally showing them carrying the fake dead people who are acting.

From this link,
https://youtu.be/a-KpuX8y9rc
This was the same video reupload and is also unavailable,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMxwK3dekm4
I'm gonna upload it myself and link it here:
https://youtu.be/IaM3juVJ_n4

[OddBeMe]

@RoosterBreast Can I hear more numerology from cockbreast? This is more interesting Joel’s regurgitation of antivax youtubers.

[goaded]

@gorydetails No, you idiot, "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees." is obviously not saying "there’s weren’t mandates"[sic], it says exactly the opposite, in detail. Any sane person would interpret the first part as implying "for everyone", because you'd have to be an idiot to read it any other way.

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast So, none of them in the USA?

[goaded]

Some mouthy idiot in the UK means hospitals in the US weren't overwhelmed?

[RoosterBreast]

Sure. I can show the similarity between "luciferian art" and the funeral.



Usually when celebrities are dying, such as with the recent submarine, a year ago I proved it with donald trump's husband's fake death. Which happened the same week as Georgia's guidestone's staged detonation, and I have numbers and what not for all these things fake stories.

Here is a bit more on the drag funeral last year:
The drag died at 6:30 pm, 69 years 3 months and 6 days after coronation.
At 96 years, and his he published js 96 pages long.
The full name of Elizabeth in the reverse order gematria (a=26, z=1) when the letters of their name are added it equals 369.
Born in 1926, as in (1+9) + (2+6) = 9, and died in 2022, as in (2+0) + (2+2) = 6. That is another 96.
1776 days after the first QAnon drop, which is the year both the bavarian illuminati was founded and US declared a nation... and 33rd degree masons a lot about "111", "1776". They're essentially the number of the eyed pyramid.

201 is a very jesuit number, can post more on that

Prince Philip, died at 99, April 9 (9/4), 2021, the 99th day of the year, while the queen was 94 years old.
Prince Philip in the full reduction gematria (as letter J = 10 reduces as 1+0=1) is 81 which is 8+1=9. And in the reverse reduction gematria his name adds to 63.

Allegedly died 63 days after the anniversary of the Queen's official ascension to the throne, and 63 days before his own birthday.

They're Inverted. Hence DRAG not just a queen.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-ZcabnLvJco

How about Georgia's guidestones, also touching on 911 again because KITE HIT STEEL PLANE MUST.

[RoosterBreast]

Guidestones detonating at exactly 4:33:33am (33, can go on about that number.) on July 6, as in 7/6 2022, or 76...
In normal gematria, Skull+and+Bones = 76... "bomb” is 76 in reverse ordinal gematria... I numbers these have deep meanings, if you keep in mind that they themselves detonated it and tried blaming some sort of nonexistent right-wing terrorists. It's a ritual of their own.
July 6th 2022 = George W. Bush’s 76th birthday! He is very well known to be a member of the Skull and Bones secret society masonic order.
Guidestones were built on March 22, 1980. That is 3/22, as in Order 322, aka Skull and Bones (their own logo has 322, referring to their bible's genesis 3:22 "Man has become like god.")
And that was 42 years ago (42, way too common... I could make another essay on 42) for example, Freemason = 42, Jesuit = 42, etc... July 6th is 201-days after Pope Francis’s birthday.. The Jesuit Order = 201... Order of Illuminati = 201...

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded oh yes most videos were from the biggest hospitals with tents set up like in NYC

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast Oh, so you went full nutcase. Have fun with that.

[RoosterBreast]

@goaded if you're referring to the gemtria then that's what @OddBeMe requested.

And, what kind of an argument is that? Does that disprove anything? Talking about the numbers I mentioned is not "nutcase."

I may say something that isn't true, but showing the aforementioned numbers is not something debatable.

George bush literally turned 76 on July 6 2022 as the letter values of skullandbones adds to 76, and detoned the same guidestones that he has erected on march 22, while the logo of skull and bones has 322 on it. That is not a question.

[goaded]

@RoosterBreast Wow.

[goaded]

@Stoner710 I repeat: " Define Anti vaxxer. " These guys.

[OddBeMe]

@goaded you handled it well during my 3 day Gag freeze. And I never heard of inverse square. I’m reading about it on wiki now.

Have a brew on me, Kraut. Lol

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe you two do make a cute couple.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails sorry you don’t have that. Hatred brings you nothing, yoda say.

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe yes, I’ll stick to women. Thanks.. But y’all have your fun.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails bahahaahahahaha! Sorry, Joel, I shouldn’t laugh at the short bus.

[gorydetails]

I know, you two homos still think you were right about anything over the past three years, so you’re so desperate to pull out a win. But we know the truth.

[goaded]

@gorydetails "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees." is obviously not saying "there’s weren’t mandates"[sic], it says exactly the opposite, in detail. Any sane person would interpret the first part as implying "for everyone", because you'd have to be an idiot to read it any other way. Idiot.

[gorydetails]

@goaded And again, since you’re a dipshit, I said it is immoral to mandate these leaky shots and that was your rebuttal. The rebuttal was to tell me vaccines were never mandated. So what was the point of your reply, other than to spout nonsense? There’s no need to argue a point you agree with.

[goaded]

@gorydetails I said: "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees." There's no sane way to read that as saying there were no mandates, and the limited mandates that were there could be avoided by simply quitting the job.

As to nonsense, that's all you. Most vaccinations are "leaky", but they save lives.

[gorydetails]

@goaded Like I've said several times. When I stated that it's immoral to mandate these shots, you tried to rebut my statement. There's no need to do that if you agreed that there were mandates. This is so simple, you should be able to keep up.

[goaded]

@gorydetails You've spent your last dozen responses claiming I said there were absolutely no mandates when I mentioned the limited ones in the response you were objecting to: "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees." (See that bit after the comma?)

When you've admitted you were full of shit about that, we could try having a sensible conversation.

[gorydetails]

@goaded No, I'm showing you your own bullshit. But since you want to cling to it, go ahead.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails so you’re saying there was a mandate from someone about vaccines? Who?

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe The military for one. Or are you unable to pay attention?

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails we talked about that one already. Why are still arguing then? Was that the only mandate?

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe I'm not arguing. Your doofus buddy insisted there wasn't a mandate then spent the better part of two days insisting that's not what he meant.

[goaded]

@gorydetails "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees." (See that bit after the comma?) Liar.

[gorydetails]

@goaded There was no reason to rebut my original comment to say the same thing I was asserting (that there were shot mandates).

[Реrverted_Сreeр]

There also are a dozen countries where the entire population is force vaccinated for covid, even already in 2022 when after 2 years, all unvaxxed people would've died if the virus was as deadly as leftists suggested.

But no, after over 2 years, when everyone has natural immunity (proved superior by the hundreds of studies which CockBreast linked), they to go on..
Places like Costa Rica mandated even all minors, not just adults.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails ok…I admitted the army was mandated. Settled. Can everyone shut the fck up now?

[OddBeMe]

@Реrverted_Сreeр and that’s because those countries were islands or fcking indundated. There was demand for a mandate. Which I could argue woulda saved US lives.

[goaded]

@gorydetails And what was your reason for lying and pretending that "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees." (See that bit after the comma?) is me insisting "there wasn't a mandate" for two days?

None of the limited mandates forced people to stay in the jobs they were required for if they didn't want to. That was my very simple point, which you avoided all this time by lying about what I said.

[OddBeMe]

@goaded true I think vets could even leave the military if they didn’t want it.

[gorydetails]

@goaded And what's your reason for rebutting my claim that it's immoral to force people to take these shots with "vaccines were never mandated", There's zero reason for you to rebut that statement, except you're doing the same bullshit you always do "this never happened!" to " It happened but wasn't a big deal".

[goaded]

@Реrverted_Сreeр "Natural immunity" only helps with the second contact with the virus. It's not much use if you're dead from the first.

So, did huge numbers of people die in those countries that mandated covid vaccines (the anti-vaxx crowd claim it's really dangerous, right?), or did their populations enjoy the protections they provided and many more survive their first infection? (Nobody said the virus would kill everyone, the infection fatality rate was estimated as something like 0.5%-6% early on, a year in it looked like 1.75%, in the US, that's nearly six million Americans.)

Costa Rica has had 1,814 deaths per million population from Covid. The USA has had 3,491. Arizona has had 4,620. Only three US states had fewer deaths per capita than Costa Rica.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Oh, look, not satisfied with lying about what I clearly said, you're also lying about what your claim was. I particularly like the part where you say "If you shits had been honest from the start...". Nothing about immorality.

" @goaded I've never said that, idiot. That's you putting words in my mouth. For elderly these gene therapy shots may provide some protection. But absolutely do not prevent transmission, should absolutely never be mandated, and people who choose not to get them should never be excluded from society (all things you fascists want). The lies told about these shots need to stop immediately so that people can have informed consent. (like all the BS about Pfizer's shots being FDA approved despite no one being able to get them).

If you shits had been honest from the start, maybe you wouldn't be getting the wrath you deserve now. "

[gorydetails]

@goaded yay, now you pivot to a different argument. You're such a loser.

[goaded]

@gorydetails You really never get sick of lying and accusing other people of doing what you so transparently do. You didn't say it was immoral to mandate vaccines (it's not), and you did claim, dozens of times, that my saying "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees." was saying there were no mandates at all. The technical term for that is "a lie".

[gorydetails]

@goaded It is immoral, and I’ve been saying it for three years. Again, you’d have no reason to reply with your BS if you agreed with me that there were mandates.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Why have you been pretending that I said that there weren't any mandates, when I clearly said there were? Why do you think you're incapable of admitting it?

It would be immoral to force every single person to get the vaccine, but that never happened. Not anywhere. The vaccines were never mandated in the US, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees. Even in those limited mandates, there were exceptions allowed and people could simply leave those jobs.

[gorydetails]

@goaded So vaccines were mandated in the US. Just like I said.

[goaded]

@gorydetails So did I, when I said: "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees." Then you pretended for a couple of days and dozens of responses that I'd said there weren't any. Because you're a liar.

[gorydetails]

@goaded And there was literally not a single reason for that reply…assuming anyone believes your backpedaling.

[goaded]

@gorydetails I just told you the reason. Was there a reason for you lying and pretending that "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees." meant there were no limited mandates for days on end?

We both know you're going to keep on lying, and pivoting, and pretending you're not doing what you're pretending I'm doing, so why don't you just shut the fuck up, since you know I'll keep calling your lies out?

[goaded]

@Stoner710 "Over the weekend, Mr Kennedy doubled down on remarks suggesting Covid-19 may have been "ethnically targeted" to "attack" Caucasians and black people but spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people." www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66226103

And if you don't know what anti-vaxxers are like yet, there's no hope for you.

[gorydetails]

@goaded bahhahaha. You think anyone believes your horseshit? There’s no reason for your dumb reply since I established that the shots were mandated. You just got caught being a moron and now trying to save face.

[Stoner710]

@goaded first off I don't know who that 41% of people who support joe Biden when he has run the country off of a cliff thelma and Louise style.

Also the definition of anti-vax has changed from people who don’t like vaccines in general

To

If you don’t agree with the government mandating vaccines this makes you anti vax.

I support getting vaccines I told people to get the Covid vaccine. What I was and still am against in the government mandating vaccines and supposedly I’m an anti-VAX her because I don’t want mandates…. Wtf

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails kinda. Vets could've quit and not taken the shot.

@Stoner710 and we’re not catching you up. There was no govt mandate. Joel is talking about a military one that wasn’t really.

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe and you could have not been a whiny cunt when people didn’t want to wear masks, but here we are.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails sorry I’m whiny when a million Americans die. Shithead

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe. Really? Are you? Because you haven’t given two shits that Fauci illegally funded the lab that created covid-19. You don’t give a flying fuck about the teens who ended their lives in desperation during lockdowns. You don’t care about the thousands who have died as a result of these clot shots, you rather thought people should be excluded from society for not taking them. You lost any moral high ground you pretended to have a long time ago.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails (facepalm) no one has shown why I should care. The cdc invests in labs all over the world to get back research. For all we know, wuhan lab data went into our vaxxes.

[Реrverted_Сreeр]

@OddBeMe Right... the only sinister powers are those not pushing the left agendas.. there's no way one can be talking about sucking on the left wing shit and be a bad person at the same time... but if one exposes how the atrazine turns frogs gay and electric cars are worse for the environment then he shouldn't be funding labs, because he'll use the lab for evil purposes only.. but, no matter how corrupt, whatever my favourite left wing daddy figure does, I know it is good for humanity.

[OddBeMe]

@Реrverted_Сreeр didn’t say that at all. I’m pretty hardline 1st amendment and facts. But I’m getting a barrage of shit like Fauic invested in Wuhan lab, ok and? Or the military mandated the vaccine. Ok, and?

It was a weird catastrophre for the globe but America did keep personal freedoms pretty clear. Didn’t hsve to vax, but you’d be kicked out of places. Sorry. #consequences.

[goaded]

@gorydetails I did say you'd be "pretending you're not doing what you're pretending I'm doing". You literally pretend I'm doing what you're really doing "You just got caught being a moron and now trying to save face."

You've been caught lying and pretending that "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees." meant there were no limited mandates for days on end.

I'll keep calling your lies out.

[goaded]

@Stoner710 You have noticed how @gorydetails has been making out that the covid vaccines are practically useless? And that he and @roosterbreast would like us to believe that eating well and exercise is better protection against the virus?

It can't have escaped your attention that the people screaming against mandates (which only happened in certain voluntary situations) are usually the same people claiming the vaccine is useless or even more dangerous than the virus (it's not)?

I certainly never called you anti-vaxx for being against a mandate. Likewise, I've never called for people to be injected against their will.

RFK Jr. has been against all vaccines for years, he was called out about it by his family in 2019, before the pandemic.

www.politico.com/.../

[gorydetails]

@goaded If you agreed with me that there were vaccine mandates there was no point to your reply. Thanks for playing.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Why did you spend days claiming that "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees." meant I was saying there were no mandates?

Requiring vaccines as a condition of employment or for public travel in the middle of a pandemic is a totally reasonable public health decision. Nutcases like you perpetrating misinformation about the virus, vaccines, and masks have caused thousands of American deaths.

[gorydetails]

@goaded No, it isn’t. It’s not reasonable to force people to take a shot that doesn’t prevent the spread of disease.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Oh, FFS, we're back to the "if it's not perfect, it's useless" nonsense again.

Isn't having more than one in 300 Americans dying of covid (worse than one in 250 in 15 states), compared to just over one in 500 in Germany proof that taking reasonable measures worked?

Just think, being sensible could have saved 400,000 American lives.

[gorydetails]

@goaded Weird that the Amish and Sweden fared so well.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Sweden (one in 400 people dead) did worse than Germany, and the Amish thing is more misinformation. But you knew that.

"A follow-up study published in June 2023 ... excess death rates remained high in Amish and Mennonite communities, while it dropped in the general population -- two-thirds of which are vaccinated against Covid-19."
https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.33MP8W4

Isn't having more than one in 300 Americans dying of covid (worse than one in 250 in 15 states), compared to just over one in 500 in Germany proof that taking reasonable measures worked? Having the same covid death rate as Germany would have meant 400,000 fewer American deaths.

[gorydetails]

@goaded I don't know. Did Germany also count deaths within two weeks of getting a covid shot a "unvaccinated death"? did they also count having a heart attack and being positive for covid (using faulty PCR tests, mind you) as a covid death?

[Реrverted_Сreeр]

Do you need more analogies? Other than, injecting someone with insulin trying to make them gain weight, all while they eat no food?

That's how it is with giving out vaccines and free fast food meals. Vaccines don't magically make immunity to the virus appear out of nowhere.

[goaded]

@gorydetails So now you want to pretend that differences in counting covid deaths could account for a third of covid deaths?

More than one in 300 Americans have died of covid (more than one in 250 in 15 states), compared to just over one in 500 in Germany. I'm not being unfair and comparing the US to Australia or New Zealand who pretty much managed to keep the disease out of their countries until vaccines were commonplace (at which point they relaxed their restrictions, leading to fewer than one in a thousand deaths to date).

Having the same covid death rate as Germany would have meant 400,000 fewer American deaths. Having the same death rate as California would have meant about 100,000 fewer American deaths. Of course, if the whole country had done as well as Arizona, there would have been over 350,000 more deaths.

[gorydetails]

@goaded Great, and Australia and New Zeland were prisons. I don't live like a slave. You can choose to, but fuck off telling the rest of us how to act.

[goaded]

@gorydetails You prefer the death sentence for hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Because FREEDUMB!

You're also completely wrong about what it was like living there during the pandemic.

[gorydetails]

@goaded The second you call it "freedumb" it proves you're a complete idiot. Let's not forget you cheered for BLM riots and defended them as non-super spreader events.

[goaded]

@gorydetails No I didn't. You're lying again. Funny how that works.

As to "freedumb", it seems a reasonable label to put on people who want the freedom to harm their neighbours, and take away their freedom not to be harmed.

[gorydetails]

@goaded of course, because you assholes don't mind trampling on people's rights because it makes you feel better.

[gorydetails]

@goaded SO you're going on record that BLM riots and protests were super-spreader events by a bunch of freedumb loving grandma killers?

[goaded]

@gorydetails Do you drive down the wrong side of the road from time to time? No, because it's likely to cause harm to people. That's why there are laws against it.

[gorydetails]

@goaded Which law was passed to shut down the beach?

[goaded]

@gorydetails "Which law was passed to shut down the beach?"
I expect there was an existing law regarding public safety.

[gorydetails]

@goaded What's unsafe about paddle boarding by yourself in the ocean?

[goaded]

@gorydetails Nothing. What's unsafe about driving down the wrong side of an empty road? The problems come when there are more people, or if someone has to rescue you.

[gorydetails]

@goaded Why would someone have to arres…er rescue me for paddle boarding alone?

[goaded]

@gorydetails Nice pivot.

[gorydetails]

@goaded you claimed that these were public health measures, I am expecting you to be able to articulate how, exactly.

[goaded]

@gorydetails And you're distracccting from your behaviour and lies in this conversation by trying to talk about something completely irrelevant.

Like I said earlier: "We both know you're going to keep on lying, and pivoting, and pretending you're not doing what you're pretending I'm doing, so why don't you just shut the fuck up, since you know I'll keep calling your lies out? "

[gorydetails]

@goaded lmao. You keep saying the word lie, but it’s really just to cover for your stupid reply where you claimed there were never mandates. But I find it hilarious reading your unhinged autistic ranting. So keep it up. Quite simply, there’s no reason for you to counterpoint my comment that it’s wrong to mandate leaky shots by saying there were mandates. No logical person thinks that’s an appropriate response.

[goaded]

@gorydetails I'll stop saying when you stop doing it. This one, in particular, for the umpteenth time: "you claimed there were never mandates". Obvious lie.

[gorydetails]

@goaded Nobody really cares what you do. You’re embarrassing yourself.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Every accusation is an admission with you, isn't it?

"You just got caught being a moron and now trying to save face."
"You’re embarrassing yourself."
"you pivot to a different argument"

You simply can't bring yourself to admit (or even leave unanswered) the fact that you keep claiming that when I said "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees." it meant I "claimed there were never mandates". No reasonable person could possibly read it that way, and no sane person would keep insisting on re-telling the same lie, over and over. Get help, or at least STFU.

[gorydetails]

@goaded And no one would rebut a statement of "It's wrong to mandate vaccines" with "yes, there were mandates for vaccines!" unless he was mentally ill.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Ah, another accusation that's probably an admission, to go with:

"You just got caught being a moron and now trying to save face."
"You’re embarrassing yourself."
"you pivot to a different argument"

It's really very simple English: "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees" does not mean there were absolutely no mandates, it doesn't mean that vaccines were mandated for everyone, it means there were some limited mandates that people could avoid if they felt strongly enough about it.

You've now ridiculously claimed both obviously incorrect interpretations.

I'm sure you'll keep talking, in the hopes that nobody will notice how wrong you are. It's what you usually do.

[gorydetails]

@goaded Is there any other subject where you would reply to someone stating something is bad by replying that something didn't happen except where it did?

[goaded]

@gorydetails You're back to your 100%/0% thinking again, aren't you?

Read it again: "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees" does not mean there were absolutely no mandates, it doesn't mean that vaccines were mandated for everyone, it means there were some limited mandates that people could avoid if they felt strongly enough about it.

You'd have people believe that anyone wanted everyone forcibly injected with the vaccines, rather than simply having consequences for not getting them because people were more likely to get sick or die without them. That's what I was disagreeing with.

[gorydetails]

@goaded I never implied that. YOU put that disclaimer on the discussion. This is wholly a made-up conversation in your head.

[goaded]

@gorydetails So you're now claiming you were saying it is immoral to tell people they can only come to work (or spend time in an aeroplane with hundreds of other people) if they're protected with a vaccine? That's immoral, in your mind?

And, another admission from you:
"This is wholly a made-up conversation in your head."

Your wilful misinterpretation of what I wrote and refusal to accept that you were wrong has been very real.

[gorydetails]

@goaded It's 100% immoral to mandate a shot that doesn't prevent the spread of disease, is known to have serious health risks, and takers of the shot were not given adequate informed consent. I've said it countless times.

Let's not forget - this is your smooth brain that thought I said they were universal mandates which started this latest nonsensical rant.

[goaded]

@gorydetails You do tend to resort to insults when you're losing an argument. We both know you were lying every time you said that I said there were no mandates when I said "The vaccines were never mandated, unless you wanted to work for the US government or companies that gave a shit about their employees". It's right there in the sentence, in fact it's most of it.

No vaccines are 100% effective, which is why it was important to get as many people as possible vaccinated. You've previously said that everybody was going to catch the virus at some point, so as long as the vaccine is significantly less dangerous than the virus (which is certainly is), it's still worth doing as a public health measure.

[gorydetails]

@goaded I mean you lied about my position from the start. No vaccines may be 100% effective, but a fuck ton of them are a lot more effective than these nonsense MRNA shots. You'd be fuckin pissed if you took 4 polio shots and got polio.

[goaded]

@gorydetails No, I haven't. You've downplayed the effectiveness of masks and vaccines for years now, against the evidence. I could live with getting polio, if I could survive it and not have the major downsides of the disease. The diseases that responded best to vaccines didn't mutate as readily as coronavirus.

[goaded]

I'd be really pissed off if I caught it from some idiot who didn't get the vaccine at all.

[gorydetails]

@goaded But happy you got it from someone vaxxed? Lol. Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

[goaded]

@gorydetails OMG, can't you get over this 100%/0% idiocy? Being less pissed off at someone who actively did something to avoid the situation isn't the same as being "happy".

[gorydetails]

@goaded how many people got polio from an unvaxxed person last year?

[goaded]

@gorydetails Oh, another pivot to hide your moronic statement that I would be happy to catch a disease because I'd be more pissed off at someone who deliberately decided not to get vaccinated.

[gorydetails]

@goaded lol, I'd love you to say something to an unvaxxed person for giving you covid. You'd find the mask doesn't protect you from a crack to the jaw, either, lol.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Oh, look, another pivot to hide your moronic statement that I would be happy to catch a disease because I'd be more pissed off at someone who deliberately decided not to get vaccinated.

Unlike right-wing idiots, I can be pissed off with someone without physical violence.

[gorydetails]

@goaded You're an idiot for your fake outrage at an unvaxxed person. I was mocking that. Sorry your stupid brain only knows the word "LIIIIEEEEEE" .

Right, so you'd do nothing but seethe in silence.

[goaded]

@gorydetails You literally suggested I'd be happy to catch polio as long as the person I caught it from was vaccinated, and you call me an idiot? And I didn't even use the word lie that time, so I will this time. Keep on with the insults that say much more about you than me.

Every accusation is an admission:
"You just got caught being a moron and now trying to save face."
"You’re embarrassing yourself."
"you pivot to a different argument"

[gorydetails]

@goaded So you'd seethe in silence if someone unvaxxed gave you covid, lol.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Pivoting to avoid admitting that saying I'd be "happy" to catch polio was moronic? You literally suggested I'd be happy to catch polio as long as the person I caught it from was vaccinated. Keep on with the insults that say much more about you than me.

Every accusation is an admission:
"You just got caught being a moron and now trying to save face."
"You’re embarrassing yourself."
"you pivot to a different argument"

[gorydetails]

@goaded no, I'm mocking your stupid world view. Nothing more.

[goaded]

@gorydetails No, you're just an asshole making shit up.

Every accusation is an admission:
"You just got caught being a moron and now trying to save face."
"You’re embarrassing yourself."
"you pivot to a different argument"

[gorydetails]

@goaded No, I'm mocking you seething in a quiet rage that someone without a shot gave you covid, lol.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Yeah, you're living in your own idea of what's going on here. And it's everything you've pretended I've been doing:

"You just got caught being a moron and now trying to save face."
"You’re embarrassing yourself."
"you pivot to a different argument"
"This is wholly a made-up conversation in your head."
Every accusation you make is an admission.

[gorydetails]

@goaded You just said you'd be pissed that an unvaxxed person gave you covid but said you wouldn't do anything about it. So, it's exactly what's going on.

[goaded]

@gorydetails You're the one who twisted what I said into pretending I'd be happy to catch polio as long as the person I caught it from was vaccinated. (You'd pivoted to talking about polio, remember?) A sane person would be embarrassed at making such a stupid logical error, maybe even apologise or shut up, but you'll just find another lie to tell.

I'm sure you'll keep on with the insults that say much more about you than me.

Every one of your accusations is an admission:
"You just got caught being a moron and now trying to save face."
"You’re embarrassing yourself."
"you pivot to a different argument"
"This is wholly a made-up conversation in your head."

[gorydetails]

@goaded No, I’m pointing out the absurdity of your bullshit. That it doesn’t matter who gave you the disease. But continue on with your stupid rants.

[goaded]

@gorydetails Keep proving you can't read simple English.

[gorydetails]

@goaded lmao. And keep proving you are a walking stereotype.

[normalice]

I'm convinced the sole reason for his low approval ratings is because he wants to to tax the people who own the media. The man is absolutely rocking it. Even republicans know they have to attack his age or his son because they will get steamroller if they even pretend to attack the unmitigated success of his policies.

But yeah, the "results oriented" state of mind that drove 81 million people to vote for Biden in the first place doesn't include hats. The whole point of a Maga hat was always to serve as a sort of strap on for the intellectually flaccid. Biden supporters may not be universally bright but they are somewhat universally not insecure about it, so there is no need to wave around a dildo for attention.

[exitseven]

Bidens policies were an unmitigated success. Except they were a success for China and Ukraine. Coincidence?

[normalice]

We should hope they are a success in Ukraine, although you far right pedos probably like the army of Russian child rapists invading the place, because of your mental issues. Not sure what China has to do with anything other than you have been brainwashed to randomly blurt it out any time someone tries to talk about something other that Hunter or Joe's age. It's so sad, the irreversible damage far right misinformation has done to the mental health of this country..

[Jersey2]

@exitseven Biden is a crook I would bet. Terrible president and now he covers up his son’s Cocaine at the White House.

[normalice]

@Jersey2 of course you wouldn't have to "bet" if you were of any evidence whatsoever.

And the coccaine was found in the public visitors section. The far right fake news is well aware but it would neutralize the toxins in their brainwashing so they leave that out..

Tbh i think Biden is too old to be a crook. I mean, what ambitions are left to him, really? He's going to.. what? Get slightly richer for 6-10 more years before he dies of old age? I don't buy it. Most nonstupid people don't, I'd imagine..

[exitseven]

@normalice Somebody has to point this stuff out. The media certainly won't and Biden hand picked the AG to ignore all crimes by the Biden crime family. Biden was senile when he ran 3 years ago and the slide down is just going faster. It is scary to think about what really goes on in the White House.

[Jersey2]

Yes I would bet that Biden has been taking money for so long he can’t stop. People won’t let him and that risks exposure.

Release the videos of the public areas then so we can see. No harm no foul there it’s a public area. They also said it was elsewhere so the “location” has changed which is concerning. People don’t trust Biden so all videos will need to be released at least to a bi-partisan committee.

Student huh? No real accomplishments so you haven’t proven yourself and statistically are unlikely to do so as most people… well… don’t. I did though.

[normalice]

@exitseven no, dummy, Trumps handpicked AG appointed a special prosecutor to investigate Hunter and the best they could come up with after years of noninterference from Joe was these silly charges no one ever gets charged for. It's just that you stupid people who are so mad with hate about the Bidens you will believe anything your bloated idiot tells you to believe.

But I suppose I should thank you for making my point, really. You reliably showed no interest in a discussion of his policies but instead couldn't keep your mouth off Hunter Bidens cock even in response to an opinion that calls out you insufferable fuckwits for being unable to do so.

[normalice]

@Jersey2 what are you talking about? I'm not up to date on the qanon alternate reality game so that all just like a bunch of dumb shit.

[exitseven]

Yes Biden's hand picked AG hand picks another stooge to :investigate: his bagman son. They had the evidence in the laptop and Tony Bobelinski offered to testify. They never bothered to call him. They turned over every rock excepth for the one that Biden hid all the money. You really need to grow up.

[normalice]

@exitseven no, fuckwit, Trump picked David Weiss, ya dumb dipshit. Why are you idiots so dense a when it comes to factual information? Spastic jackass 🤣

[Jersey2]

I think you are out of control now and have nothing of substance to offer. I find it laughable that you, who couldn't even make it on one of my teams, have the audacity to act superior. You are clearly out of your league but the funny part is you don’t even realize it. You haven’t even achieved an entry level role yet and act like you run with the top of the house.

You are in for a humbling experience, remember I said that because it’s not too far off. It’s going to be a rude awakening… I hope you are prone to depression.

[Jersey2]

*aren’t prone to depression. OEither way, it’s coming)

[normalice]

@Jersey2 are you an AI or something? You're just speaking complete gibberish, now 😅

[Jersey2]

I type fast and don’t spell check much, at least until I have already pressed enter.

[normalice]

@Jersey2 thats not an excuse for intending to type nonsense in the first place.

[Jersey2]

@normalice well what is it that you underdeveloped student mind doesn’t comprehend. I will try and explain it more completely and not assume you have the wherewithal to connect some dots.

Mind you, I need to go out now but I will be back.

[normalice]

@Jersey2 oh, don't worry aboutnit, you've already shown you are what I call a "ragetard." The anger you can't stop yourself from plunging your face into has resulted in actual physical brain damage and now you can't feel normal unless you feel fussy. Behold the power of far right misinformation. All of that just because otherwise no one would be stupid enough to vote republican based on merit. Sad...

[Jersey2]

So you’re saying you were bluffing and you had nothing. So noted. Moron.

[normalice]

@Jersey2 I guess it's cool to say any generic thing and pretend like it fits into the conversation, sure 🤣

[amazingallegra1]

I have never had respect for that man but lost it even more (somehow) when he was joking as some kids were already gone and others fighting for their lives in the hospital after a school shooting in Nashville! He could give me a billion dollars and I wouldn't even take it.

[exitseven]

I have seen quite a few of these lately. This is the first one I ever saw. I had to stop and take a picture of it because I could not believe it. Then I started seeing them around town.

[goaded]

That's amazing! I took a photo in exactly the same place! Check the background.

[exitseven]

@goaded nice

[goaded]

Why don't you think Trump detractors don't have to play silly games like that? Could it be because the law's on their side?

[exitseven]

@goaded I don't know. Maybe if you support a senile corrupt president you don't want to make too much of a fuss.

[goaded]

He's neither, and I don't have to lie about taking photos and "seeing them around town".

[Anonymous]

Biden doesn't really have supporters, he's basically the guy the democrats put in place because of how strong he is in the party and the only nearly creditable candidate they could put in place after Hillary shit the bed.

Left wing democrats generally despise America and the American flag. They want the stars & stripes banned as a racist hate symbol, the want to turn America into a version of Mexico with crime impovershished ghettos and the wealthy elites living in fortress suburbs.

[Anonymous]

Seems like shoving political opinions that no one asked for in everyone's face is almost exclusively a Republican thing. Bumper stickers, flags, hats etc are almost always Republican themed. This seems true regardless of who the candidates are at the time.

[GreatBigCircles]

Because people have tossed hats and flags into the 'conservative symbol' basket, rather than trying to make symbols for themselves.

[gorydetails]

Cause no one wants to admit they voted for him.

[OddBeMe]

Is that what your trump hat is for?

[gorydetails]

I don’t have one, but you can buy me one.

[Surely]

There wasn’t many items out there for Obama either.
Besides , what could you put on a hat about Biden? That would be positive.

[OddBeMe]

I would say, Biden hasn’t needed a hat to get the popular vote.

[LiamJHayden]

Probably because people didn't really vote for Biden but rather against Trump.

[Anonymous]

Because no one likes Biden.

🤷‍♂️

This is not the “gotcha” you think it is.

[OddBeMe]

Strange that he gets 8 mill plus more votes…

[Opinion Owner]

www.theatlantic.com/.../

Such enthusiasm! Please don’t die... all we need is an empty suit!

🤣

Face it. People didn’t vote FOR Brandon. They voted against the Orange Man.

[OddBeMe]

Ehh we weren’t Obama level crazy for him, but we really hated Trump. Although Biden has been the most liberal president this century, if you look at what he tried doing.

[Opinion Owner]

And yet amazingly he somehow managed to get MORE votes than Obama did... someone Democrats WERE crazy about.

🐟

He’s not a Liberal. He’s a Lefty globalist. There is nothing Liberal about that man. From his multiple racist comments to his boner for surveillance and censorship to his disregard for SCOTUS. In fact there is little that is liberal in the Democrat Party anymore.

And that’s why I decided to vote for a the man who hosted Wrestlemania. He at least doesn’t fly rainbow flags over federal property.

[msc545]

@agagagagaga And they will again.

[Opinion Owner]

@msc545 Who will “what” again? Explain yourself.

[msc545]

read.

[OddBeMe]

Where did you read he got more votes than Obama? 2012 remains the highest voted election ever.

[Opinion Owner]

@oddbeme www.cbsnews.com/.../

www.census.gov/.../...on-tables-now-available.html

Just something for you to read. You know, since you seem to be picky with your reading material.

[OddBeMe]

Oh you’re right, I was thinking about black turnout. I just had an argument over that. My bad, you’re right.

[OddBeMe]

@agagagagaga no, you voted for wrestle mania because you wanted “fck the libtards”. And nothing you said about them or Biden is real. Maybe some old racist clips of him from 80s and 90s. But your side literally hangs out with Neo Nazis.

[DextroShade]

No nobody really likes Biden they just didn't want more Trump.

[AngryCarl2]

I don't know much about American politics but it seems like the Biden supporters (insofar as he has any) are Normies.

[Jersey2]

People don’t want to admit they vote for Biden because even they don’t really like him.

[Paul09]

Ever wonder why muricans are obbssed with useless politics?

[Anonymous]

Becsue no one would be caught dead wearing a Biden hat.

[Opinion Owner]

*Because

[OddBeMe]

Thankfully most wearing trump hats will be dead soon.

[OddBeMe]

@Agagagagaga I was just positing their chances based on average weight and ages…

[Opinion Owner]

"Thankfully most wearing trump hats will be dead soon"

@OddBeMe Wow, I knew you had a lot of hatred for people different than you but I didn't know you actually wanted them dead. You are one fucked up woman.

[OddBeMe]

I have lots of anger toward idiocy. Man or woman.

[Opinion Owner]

You have anger toward people who have different views than you do. That's all it is, but you're just too dishonest to acknowledge it. The people you call "idiots" see you exactly the same way you see them. You are literally no different than the people you hate. Are you truly tood dumb to see that? You realize that makes you he idiot, right?

[OddBeMe]

I’m sorry but there’s no “different view” from facts. And if you’re stupid enough to believe misinformation instead of doing actual research, then I’m angry.

[Opinion Owner]

Lol, your "facts" are just your view of "reality", just like the people you hate have their own "facts". They think you are just as big an ignorant asshole as you think they are

Come on man, grow the fuck up.

[OddBeMe]

No. Facts are facts whether you hate them or not. The fact you think this makes me sad.

[Opinion Owner]

It's not so much about facts as it is which ones you think are most important. And you hate people who prioritize different facts than you do.

Speaking of facts, the fact is you are one of the most divisive and hateful users GAG as ever seen.

The fact is people like you are exactly the reason the US is so divided today.

The fact is you are a hater, and that makes you a shitty person.

I have been a member here for eight years and have seen a lot of haters come and go, and you are right up there in the top... er, I mean down there in the bottom two or three of all time.

Sad? Yeah, I bet you are. No one who is as brimming with hatred as you are is a happy person.

[Opinion Owner]

@OddBeMe This video was made specically for you. You are precicely the person he is referring to. But you take it a step further and harbor and spread hate for the people who have been brainwashed by a different set of proganda than you have, and that's what makes you a particularly shitty person.

www.tiktok.com/.../7255152174861143338

[OddBeMe]

“ The fact is people like you are exactly the reason the US is so divided today.
The fact is you are a hater, and that makes you a shitty person.”

Those aren’t facts. They’re opinions. I think this is your problem.

[Opinion Owner]

Right, your opinions are facts but no one else's are. LMAO.

Like I said, you are exactly who the video is referring to.

[OddBeMe]

I literally, your two sentences are opinions. A fact is something like “it’s 9 o’clock.”

I’m worried about you..

[Opinion Owner]

Everyone who has been here on GAG more than a week knows it's a fact that you are a hater, and you hate is based on your opinions. That's a fact.

[Jerre]

Most people would be embarrassed to show they are a Biden fan

[Anonymous]

No, I don't wonder shy there aren't any Biden hats. Biden is awful. Unlike Trump. People didn't vote for Biden. They voted against Trump.

[mommymommymommy]

Because he's not a grifter, like trump

[Agagagagaga]

Pfffttt HAHAHAHAHAHAAhahahaa!!!

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[Anonymous]

because we're not in a cult.

[Opinion Owner]

@Agagagagaga Okay and? what's that supposed to be or mean?

[Juxtapose]

Cus Biden sucks.

[CuriousMufuxka]

He forgot his name when retailers asked!

[BLP11520]

No I know exactly why