Why is no one talking about the crisis of femininity?

[Anonymous]

In my opinion, nowadays there is a crisis of both femininity and masculinity because people have lost their values. But why are men blamed only?

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A few, maybe 2% of men rule society. but They are men.

[Soteris]

The moment you brought in "lost their values" you just lost your argument. You are a traditionalist, I get it, but your view of masculinity and femininity are based on gender roles back when both men and women were suppressed by society to conform within rigid roles. They are both harmful to the people in question and also against personal freedom.

They are gone and for good reason. Quite frankly it is time for you and people like you to stop romanticizing the past as if it was some golden age we have fallen from. The view of the past you have is simply not real, historically things were pretty damn afoul back then and we really do not want to go back to those times that we have just managed to claw ourselves out off.

[Asker]

I talk obaut other values like family, loailty and being an honest and good person.
Think about how many happy families there are now and how many mean people there are now. I don't know why you are exaggerating what I said and attacking me. We can disagree, but we should respect others.

[strateguy632]

hilarious, you seem to think christian lady doesn't have job or can't. lol.

[Soteris]

@messiking
This is exactly what I am talking about. There are more happy families today than there was 100 years ago. That is not to say things are particularly great today, just that it used to be much worse.

[Anonymous]

Because traditional conservatives push traditional gender roles where the man is in charge, even though more women are going to college than men and becoming more successful than men, the traditional conservative still puts all of the societal pressure on men.

And men support people like Jordan Peterson and Tate, who tell men their rule is to be a husband and provider, and they aren't suitable for anything else.

They complain about men getting discriminated against in divorce courts and getting longer sentences. But they are the ones who are promoting the idea that women are less capable and are natural caregivers and less able to cause harm to anyone.

They didn't lose any values that you're referring to. Andrew Tate's ideas and values of masculinity are precisely the reason why people blame everything on men.

[Asker]

I talk obaut other values.

[Asker]

Like family, loailty and being an honest and good person.
Think about how many happy families there are now and how many mean people there are now.

[Anonymous]

both are wrong!
Whoever loses their nature is wrong, a tomboy is wrong and an effeminate man is wrong. I do not blame only one of them but the gender ideology that was inputted in their minds, they are being used by the politicians... but it is a secret

[Flatmanlewis]

Oh, we’re talking about it in my circles. Women have kept pace with men and seemingly have lost all sense of class. I know so many women with a long list of the standard they expect a man to have then - simultaneously, have a mindset of ‘a man needs to accept me for who I am’ or speaks poorly of women who are more feminine than they are. I hear young women who talk as vulgarly as drunken sailors, think sweat pants and Crocs are a wardrobe, and think a push-up bra and stupid TikTok videos are going to reel them in a quality man. It’s insane. Mind you the men aren’t exactly raising the standard much but I think the absence of feminine class is notable.

[Asker]

That's true in my opinion

[DarkWinterNights]

Because we have a gynocentric society. Plenty of people are talking about these existential threats but they won’t go mainstream until it’s far too late. The people having kids now are going to shape the future a lot more than those who don’t.

[LazerBean]

Because men are who lead society.

[Asker]

A few, maybe 2% of men rule society. but They are men.

[LazerBean]

It is simply the natural order of this world, whether or not men have enough balls to admit it or not.

[Asker]

That's true

[strateguy632]

the question was about "loss of values" that due to fascist facebook policy and loud social "warriors" who lead, so cannot accurately blame "men who lead society"