Do you think this is a good point?

[Juxtapose]

[hahahmm]

Sure. But playing political games or even games in court will not save the U. S. It's like playing games with the restaurant menu/food on the sinking Titanic.

[Avicenna]

It's a very good point... he should be impeached for it...

[Juxtapose]

Yeah.. if lawyers are going to interpret presidential immunity that way then it's essentially open season.

Barack Obama has killed an Al-Qaeda American and also Osama Bin Laden without due process. That's a good thing he did and presidential immunity is supposed to protect him from prosecution.

[Avicenna]

Well, removal from office is the first step. Doesn't mean that he has immunity given the seriousness of the crime.

[Juxtapose]

Yeah, you're supposed to be impeached before anything happens but we'll see how this all pans out. I don't trust the current people sitting in these positions of authority to judge properly.

[Avicenna]

Of course not. If you do what the elites want, you can do what you want.

[RainbowMarinade]

@Avicenna
It’s not like they haven’t been trying.

[Avicenna]

@RainbowMarinade: Yeah, but the main thing he should be impeached for is deliberately and illegally opening the borders. It's not the only thing, of course, but it's the most significant thing he's done which he should be impeached for, even more than the influence peddling.

[RainbowMarinade]

@Avicenna
All this evidence of wrongdoing and yet still no impeachment. What is up with the Republican party? Are they impotent?
Let’s get on with the show

[Avicenna]

@RainbowMarinade: Well, They have paymasters too, and those paymasters want open borders.

[DJB72]

I like the idea. Unfortunately the first hurdle is logistical: finding every individual he allowed over the open border. He'd never live long enough for a trial

[Twalli]

If it wasn't bullshit. Also there is immunity for certain acts.
Trying to overturn the election and inciting terrorism in an attempt to remain in power, not so much

[Twalli]

You do realize that if Trump wins this motion, Biden can legally have him killed before January 20 if Trump wins the election.

[OddBeMe]

No because he’s not responsible for that. Unlike southern governors.

[Avicenna]

The Biden Administration has deliberately engaged in human trafficking and has illegally opened borders. It also flies and buses illegals to the interior of the country. So you’re caught lying once again.

[Juxtapose]

@Avicenna he will never acknowledge that.

[Avicenna]

Of course not- he thinks everything his fellow Marxists do is great, no matter how criminal it is.

[OddBeMe]

@Avicenna where is Biden illegally trafficking humans?

Southern governors are literally bussing them.

[Avicenna]

Let me make sure I understand you correctly- are you saying that transporting illegals who have already entered the US via bus or plane is trafficking them?

[OddBeMe]

@Avicenna if it’s against their will and done against policy, yes. By definition.

[Avicenna]

So they're in the US illegally and they can't be detained and/or transported anywhere? Can you cite a legal code or at least some executive order or official regulation that says this? Because someone who is in the country illegally certainly doesn't have the right to move around freely.

[Avicenna]

But from what I understand the ones bused north from Texas by your governor have agreed to be transported. I don't know about the ones transported by Homeland Security or other agencies under Executive Branch control.

[OddBeMe]

@Avicenna 18 US Code 1591 - in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, or within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States, recruits, entices, harbors, transports, provides, obtains, advertises, maintains, patronizes, or solicits by any means a person.

IE- putting em on a fucking bus for a political stunt.

[Avicenna]

LMAO, you leftists always try to abuse the law:

§1591. Sex trafficking of children or by force, fraud, or coercion

uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml

So try again. The section of the federal criminal code you cited could be used to charge some of the illegals and others involved with sex trafficking, though.

No wonder you morons just lap up anything the government says...

[laly520]

good opinion to an extent

[Darklydarkened]

Still more acceptable than Epstein's buddy

[Juxtapose]

Clinton?

[Darklydarkened]

Same, you Americans will never realise that two ''Parties'' of yours are one and the same.

You're just choosing which socio economical class will have the reigns but they're all from the same political ideals, same circles, same groups

American ''right'' are literally oblivious to the fact that they are as liberal as their counterparts. They follow the lead of a filthy rich oligarch and think they're defending the people's values. Even though their main political leader is an obnoxious, decedant rich elite who gives no fucks to regular people at all

[Juxtapose]

Trump is out for himself, Joe Biden is for the deep state. Big difference.

[Juxtapose]

And also Trump was never involved with that Island.

[Darklydarkened]

There's no such thing as deep state.

There's just corporations and oligarchical interest groups that hold wealth.

What you call deep state is basically shady deals for these groups.

Same goes for Trump too, you just don't see it

If you believe Trump's never involved in such things and has a slightly different mindset, you're just deluding yourself.

[Juxtapose]

You're deluded if you don't think people like Bill Gates, the Rothschilds, Black Rock and the World Economic Forum are not working together.

[Darklydarkened]

Yeah sure, secret society of orgies ruling the earth

[Agagagagaga]

@Darklydarkened Its amazing the way you just shrug about goddamn Klaus Schwab. Where are you from?

Ugh. Ukraine. No wonder you’re such a POS.

[Darklydarkened]

@Agagagagaga I shrug about every nonsensical conspiracy theory, Rothchild, Flat Earth, God

[Juxtapose]

How did George Carlin manage to figure this out but you can't?

[Juxtapose]

"But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests."

[Juxtapose]

"That's right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy."

[Juxtapose]

"The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it."

George Carlin

[Darklydarkened]

Carlin's argument includes the entire rich elite class, not just specific types you suggest theories about.

Carlin's an anarchist, supporting Trump and then quoting Carlin is just pathetic.

[Exterminatore]

Yes.

[QuietRunner]

valid point