What's behind Trump's and the GOP's love affair with Putin?

[Anonymous]

I clearly remember when the GOP would never tolerate the support of a dictator like this. Nikki Haley is absolutely correct on this point. Trump's ridiculous comments after Navalny's death are pathetic!

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-breaks-silence-navalny-casts-no-blame-putin-2024-02-19/

[Danzigdawson]

In a nutshell: Trump admires Putin's brand of authoritarianism and he wishes he could do the same over here.

Kill who he wants to kill. Invade where he wants to invade. Jail who he wants to jail. Repress dissent by force. Annihilate opposition. Make the free press bend to his will. Be the subject of a cult of personality...

[handsomelad70]

As my mother used to say, "Birds of a feather (strongman wannabe in Trump's case) flock together."

[DryGermanGuy]

Similar to the "old boys", it's the appeal of a strongmen's network.

[argot]

I don’t know anyone that loves Putin. Everyone just thinks what Obama did through Victoria Nuland taking over Ukraine and installing a puppet government while working hand in hand with legitimate Nazis to instigate a war between the USA and Russia is strongly against American interests. Most real Americans want to see that puppet government fall and that plan by the Democrats to get America and Russia to destroy one another fail. MAGA is America first, not Nazi first like the Democrat party. That means they are non-interventionist. They want to invest American dollars in growing the economy of America by investing in America not a foreign war. Democrats want to spill American blood and Republicans aren't having it. Republicans after-all make up the majority of the military. Why would Republicans sacrifice their lives so a piss ant like you could see your Nazi aspirations come to pass?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Wzp2rpe06j8

[normalice]

They want a dictatorship here, too. They like Putin's model of repeat repeat repeating that everyone who disagrees with them having absolute authority is a pedophile and then also having a general understanding that anyone the population is convinced is a pedophile should be ripped to pieces by a mob.

Republicans (and sadly many liberals) hate compromise. They don't want to understand why their beliefs are questionable because then they wouldn't be able to believe them. But they depend on those beliefs to feel righteous and meaningful.

[exitseven]

Republicans understand how precarious our free nation is. We are on the brink of becoming a Communist totalitarian state. Our rights are slowly being eroded. The state already has control of the media, colleges, financial institutions. They are defending the pilice.

[normalice]

@exitseven if republicans were concerned about freedom they would stop trying to be Christian nationalists. If you're going to claim not to want totalitarianism, great - does that mean if we dig up some example of a republican saying they want to be a dictator that you would reject that candidate? No. Because you're a liar. You want totalitarianism that forces people to agree with you and gives you the freedom to exercise political violence when people don't. That's all.

[exitseven]

No, I believe in the US Constitution and the rule of law. I believe that all men were created equal and that nobody is above the law.

[normalice]

@exitseven so, if some candidate expressed interest in being a dictator, you would reject them?

[handsomelad70]

Except REPIGLIKSWINE want to turn the U. S. back to the 1950's (or earlier) when blacks were in the back of the bus, women were barefoot and pregnant, Hispanics were field workers and LGBTQAIs were safely closted.

[handsomelad70]

@exitseven So why are you anti-Black, exitseven? (And you CERTAINLY believe your boy Trump is above the law !!!)

[exitseven]

@handsomelad70 I am not anti black. I believe in equality and not so called equity.

[normalice]

@exitseven notably, no comment on trump being above the law, which is comment enough..

[exitseven]

Trumpbis not above the law. He is in a class by himself though. The govenor of New York said so last week. She said that only Tump will have his business ruined and his assets seized over a made up case that had never been prosecuted in New York history and a crime that had no victims. She avid that they willnleave everyone else alone and they were just after President Trump

[normalice]

@exitseven so, if Trump committed crimes you would be satisfied with him serving time for it. If so we are in agreement for anything that matters.

[exitseven]

Trumps only crime is to be ahead of Biden in the polls and poised to be the next president. Biden had documents he stole while he was senator. His son collected millions from foreign countries for doing nothing of value. He was selling influence to his father. JoexBiden got 10% of the take

[normalice]

@exitseven so you dont want him to serve time if he committed crimes. Why dissimulate? Is that just part of being a brain damaged rage junkie?

[exitseven]

If he committed a retreat crime like stealing classified documents or taking bribes yea. For having documents he has the authority to possess or a crime with no victims when it is apparent he is being singled out to keep him from his constitutional right to run for president then no.

[normalice]

@exitseven so, it sounds like you're willing to say if he gets convicted in a way you agree with, yes he should go to prison. But there is no way for him to get convicted that you would ever agree with. You understand that is saying the same thing as you don't want him to go to prison even if he is guilty, right ragetard?

[exitseven]

The charges against Trump are made up charges perpetrated by liberal democrats. The goal is to keep him from running for president. The prosecutors have all visited the White House many times and it is obvious that Biden is behind it all. There are even people who work for the AG that are in New York helping Alvin Bragg try to imprison Trump. None of it is on the level. They are the real threat to democracy.

[normalice]

@exitseven so, why did you lie and say you wanted him to be held accountable for crimes, then? You are clearly 100% dedicated to calling any crime he gets accused of made up because you want him to get away with it. Did you think we wouldn't draw that truth out of you after a few exchanges?

[Anonymous]

I think about the same time the Democrats starting hating dictators in Communist and Socialist nations. The GOP still hates the Cuban Communists. Tolerates the Chinese Communist since our country now is so intertwined with the Chinese economy.
So once the Democrats get logical and hate all the dictators then I'll join this crazy notion of tolerating dictator Putin.
Also aren't supposed to engage in diplomacy instead of militaristic views. I remember Democrats have pushed this narrative before.

[exitseven]

Trump is not wrong. The only difference between him and Navalny is that Trump is still alive, for now.

[Asker]

Trump is not worthy to stand in Navalny's shadow. Navalny was a true hero of human rights! Trump didn't even have the DECENCY to express heartfelt condolences to his family. Clearly, Putin has him by the balls! It's nauseating, and you idiots are supporting his disgusting and vile behavior!

[exitseven]

Putin wants Biden back in the White House. That's all you need do know. He stayed out of Ukraine for 4 years while Trump was president and it wasn't because he was his friend. He was afraid of him

[handsomelad70]

How exactly is Trump right?

[exitseven]

@handsomelad70 Trump does not have a love affair with Putin. This is a narrative started by Hillery Clinton that the fake news keeps repeating over and over again. He is correct when he says that America is turning into a totalitarian state when the leading opposing candidate gets litigated to death by the current regime.

[handsomelad70]

Putin's Trump's boy and Trump, a wanna-be strongman, doesn't give a crud about anyone (including you goobers who'll vote for him) but Trump !!! Zelenskyy and Navalny are two of the greatest examples of humanity. RIP, Mr. Navalny, you and the other Putin opponents are on history's right side !!!

[exitseven]

@handsomelad70 Zalensky is almost as corrupt as Joe Biden. He has been turning Ukraine into a totalitarian government and made himself the dictator.

[handsomelad70]

Putin laughs at Trump like about half Trump's compatriots and 90% of the rest of the truly civilized world, i. e., the nations where mass shootings are a daily (sometimes multiple times daily) occurrence.

[exitseven]

@handsomelad70 notice the shootings are happening in Democrat run cities.

[handsomelad70]

Notice the shootings are all in REPLIGLIKSWINE-Governed states with joke gun laws? Or are you trying to say that Black-run cities are full of criminals like most racists and white supremacists?

[exitseven]

@handsomelad70 there are no white supremacists. A few idiots running around in the woods with guns is no threat. Thousands of looters turned loose in Democrat cities are the real threat. Then the locals complain when the businesses close their doors and leave the state. The companies are called racist just because they are sick of losing money

[handsomelad70]

Trump will OFFICIALLY turn America into a totalitarian state. He's already promised to weaponize the CIA, FBI, the Justice Department, the courts and every other agency involved in law enforcement or the judiciary against his political enemies.(Looking at you, Nikki Haley.) If that doesn't sound dictatorial, what does?

[exitseven]

@handsomelad70 somebody has to clean house. All you have to look at is how hard the democrats are trying to keep him from running. I noticed a big secret service presence when he was holding a rally in S. c.. Usually the Secret Service is very discreet and stay out of sight. I spotted 4 of them and it looked like they meant business

[gorydetails]

You know all you shitlib cowards are the only ones who are believing this russian propaganda.

[Danzigdawson]

Doesn't it bother you that you live in a country where the forementioned 'shitlib cowards' can say anything they want against trump without being jailed or murdered?

It sure bothers trump.

[Asker]

Really? That would explain Trump's weak ass response to the death of Navalny. Try again!

[Danzigdawson]

28 y. o. trumptard, you say? It sure doesn't show.

[Danzigdawson]

Come on, ramp up your trash talk so we'll be intimidated.

[gorydetails]

@Danzigdawson how could I possibly match the disappointment your own life has become with words?

[Asker]

Wow! That was fast! You ran out of logical arguments, so you throw insults... just like a 5 year old. Pathetic! It's an absolute abomination how it took Trump 3 days to say anything about Navalny's murder, then, when he does, he makes all about him and can't make himself not say one negative thing about his master in Moscow! WTF has happened to the GOP?

[Danzigdawson]

Try, for my amusement... to brighten up my sad life. Please. You have to go from 1st grade occasional bully to full-on bearded, redheaded fatso in army gear patrolling the streets with an AR-15, shouting things like "stop the steal" or "country and udurr".

[gorydetails]

@Danzigdawson Try reading your own 'bio' on your profile. It's fucking hilarious.

[Danzigdawson]

I did laugh really hard too when I finally managed to read it after numerous tries, but it only reminded me that most americans don't know where Quebec is. Once, some US douchefus told me he thought it was in Russia... That's just sad. You can't laugh too hard about that.

[gorydetails]

@Danzigdawson yeah because Quebec is irrelevant. Why should anyone care where it is.

[Danzigdawson]

Exactly, but that's just the tip of the iceberg... Dig a little deeper and you'll find that 2+2=5, Europe is a country; universal health care is socialism; chocolate milk comes from brown cows; pepper mines must exist because there are salt mines; america is the greatest nation on earth, etc. It's funny, but at the same time, it just makes you feel sorry...

[gorydetails]

@Danzigdawson lol, you shitlibs are hilarious.

[handsomelad70]

@Danzigdawson Boys, boys...

[handsomelad70]

S88tlib, libtards. Guess you right-wing-nuts LOVE to make up words to describe your intellectual (and usually, aesthetic) betters.

[gorydetails]

@handsomelad70 lol, my left testicle is intellectually and morally better than you shitlibs.

[handsomelad70]

That's why you use stupid "words" like "s**tlibs,""libtards,"etc. Shows your dull-normal (if that) "intellect.'

[gorydetails]

@handsomelad70 lol. And you’re presenting your intellect as “dazzling”? I’m waiting for that one.

[OddBeMe]

I'm guessing a spigot of money