Did you see a difference in message in the conventions?

[OddBeMe]

One seemed a tad more optimistic, and dare I say, patriotic.

[MisterWack]

DNC - USA!

RNC - Mass Deportations Now

Sad thing is, Trump spread misinformation during the 2012 election that Obama would mass deport humans & put humans in camps / detention centers as a negative (which Republicans bought into). Now because Trump wants it, it is somehow okay (which it isn’t)

Need I remind you of how Trump reacted during the 2012 election after Mitt Romney conceded to Barack Obama:

(It was shared in 2016 to remind people how Trump would treat a hypothetical Clinton win)

He was always about insurrection, violence, rebellion, revolution when his team loses. Americans don’t value their country that way. The majority of us love our country even when we lose, you can’t only love your country only when you win. That is sore loser & unAmerican behavior.

Reminder: Mike Pence called the National Guard during January 6th rioting mob, not Trump and it debunks Trump’s lie that POTUS’ office can’t get the National Guard. Local govts were attempting to call Oval Office and couldn’t get a connection with the President though Vice President Mike Pence granted permission to the Local Govts allowing troops to be sent to the Capitol Building in Washington D. C. Trump is a traitor and a breaker of his Oath of Office “Against enemies foreign and domestic”.

[goaded]

Kinzinger did.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/3ITx09dIo6E

[Anonymous]

As someone else already said, it's just your confirmation bias.

[Juxtapose]

Mass deportation will save the country.

[goaded]

You'll starve, while treading on the rights of thousands of citizens.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded excuse me but criminal aliens are not citizens.

[goaded]

You think you can round up millions of people without "accidentally" picking up thousands of citizens? What do you think those citizens would look like?

[Juxtapose]

@goaded last time I checked criminal aliens don't have identification or social security numbers. Sussing them out is pretty easy.

[goaded]

Your papers, please! But only for swarthy people. You don't care because you know you won't be affected.

[Sasahara]

@goaded He didn’t say dark skinned people. Please point out exactly were in his answer and the replies to you he specified swarthy, you know that illegal immigrants can have other skin colors too, right?

[goaded]

@Sasahara You really believe that every single person in the US will be treated equally while they search for millions of undocumented people? You must be stupid.

[Sasahara]

@goaded I asked you were spesifically @Juxtapose said dark skinned people. Please specify since you wrote "But only for swarthy people." So tell me were he said swarthy or used another word for dark skinned people. Illegal immigrants can have other skin colors too. I’m not the stupid one here.

[Sasahara]

@Juxtapose did you intend "Your papers, please! But only for swarthy people." As Goaded said or did you mean more illegal immigrants than hust the "swarthy" ones?

[goaded]

@Sasahara @Juxtapose... and how do you think law enforcement will actually implement it? Do either of you seriously think my daughter, a blue-eyed blonde, would get a second look from the authorities?

[Juxtapose]

@Sasahara yeah he's obsessed with race and drank the Kool-Aid. There are racist people out there but the majority of people are not going to make judgments based on race and most cops I have personally spoken to are not racists.

I never mentioned skin tone and frankly most of America has moved beyond that nonsense. There are definitely ways to suss out criminal aliens without resorting to some sort of stupid categorization based on skin tone.

[goaded]

No, I'm realistic. If you think there are 10 million people from South America that need deporting, nobody's going to be looking at white people. Get real.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded you're not an American and you don't know how things work here, clearly.

Meanwhile in Germany, there was a woman who was greeted by immigration officials by being called the n-word. I stayed in Germany for two and a half weeks and my friends there told me all about the fucked up shit that goes on. I also witnessed a Nazi protesting in a amusement park.

[Juxtapose]

Maybe if all the immigration officials were rednecks from trailer parks you would have a point but that is not the reality.

[goaded]

Two and a half whole weeks? You must be an expert! I've spent far more time in the US and don't pretend to have inside knowledge.

Do you seriously believe that there wouldn't be a hint of racism while trying to expel millions of undocumented people? BLM was completely made up, right?

[Juxtapose]

@goaded enough to know that the myths of Germany being some progressive paradise are full of shit. Well before staying there I have spoken with Germans as well. And you absolutely do pretend to know more about the United States than you do.

Do you seriously believe any group would be perfect and would not have any bigots in them whatsoever? Do you think people are perfect angels? Any large undertaking is going to have bad apples but you deal with them and don't let them undermine your entire operation.

BLM is a bunch of ungrateful little shits who don't give a fuck about black people when other black people kill black people. They tear down black owned businesses and want reparations for crimes that were never committed against them personally. They are sick and should be classified as a terrorist organization.. not to mention their leaders got rich off of their stupidity and live in mansions while doing nothing for black people who are in rough spots.

[Juxtapose]

But yeah, the deportation needs to happen and it will be done as justly as possible.

[Sasahara]

@goaded Why are you unable prpve where Juxtapose used the term schwarcy or other terms for black since you made the "Your papers, please! But only for swarthy people."? Go on an tell me where exactly he claimed his point was only about dark skinned people. Since ypu thought I must be stupid, them surely you can at least do something as prove where he made the point here.

[Sasahara]

@Juxtapose Regarding BLM @goaded admitted BLM was worse than Jan 6th here, in the comments under a anon answer by claiming " You're just as right about everything else." as that was included in the everything else.
Who’s more extreme: the Left or the Right? ↗
I also told him and odd I was going to remember he wrote that.

I made a comment saying Odd said something, linked to a question by goaded where Odd answered what I said, goaded amoung other things told me "You're just as right about everything else." and I let he own up to that until he stopped replying to me. Even Odd admitted I had a good recall for remeberimg ehat I claimed he said.

So don’t worry goaded, BLM is real, and their riots caused the highest damage from civil disorder in US history.

[Sasahara]

Both of you, I apologize for typos I probably made.

[Juxtapose]

@Sasahara oh don't worry about that such a thing doesn't matter!

[OddBeMe]

It’s so crazy all this migrant talk when the real issues are sneaking by. Big corps are good at misdirection.

Wall Street Crash: Zero arrests!
Illegal migrants that have absolutely no negative effect: 2 million+

[Juxtapose]

Saying criminal aliens have absolutely no negative effect when they are actually counted for political purposes and dilute Americans own influence is obscene.

California literally has five more seats than it should because of criminal aliens.

[goaded]

@Sasahara OMG, you really read "You're just as right about everything else." as saying you were right about something?

[OddBeMe]

Would love any evidence you have juxty. Until then, I’ll go by the numbers. Migrants cause lesss crime, pay taxes and dont get much back for it.

[Juxtapose]

They literally dilute your vote and unvetted people in your country is very bad. MS13 gang members are just the beginning and known terrorists are coming into this country.

[Juxtapose]

It's amazing how you act like California doesn't have five extra seats because of criminal aliens being counted.

[OddBeMe]

I’m more shocked at what you fucks choose to get mad about.

We have corporate vultures bleeding the middle class dry. And no native born dick weeds willing to work.

[Juxtapose]

Criminal aliens entering the country is not going to benefit any economic class but the shadow government.

[Yabbut]

One seemed to be all about feelings.

[goaded]

Which one? Which feeling?

[Yabbut]

@goaded Joy

[thearchjoker]

Confirmation bias if I've seen any

[Anonymous]

That's called confirmation bias.

[OddBeMe]

Maybe but it’s also just listening to what they’re talking about more. Our side, decreasing the wealth gap…yours? Illegals! And they have no fucking effect whatsoever.

[Opinion Owner]

"My side" is the center.

I agree most illegals have no effect, but some can have a very bad effect. Did you know the US Border Patrol reported 172 encounters in 2023 with people whose names appeared on the federal government's official list of known or suspected terrorists? Keeping our borders secure is clearly in the interest of national security. What kind of moron chooses to ignore that fact just to be in support of his "side"?

I've seen enough of your posts here to know what you are, and people like you are the biggest problem facing the US today, and I mean on both "sides".

[goaded]

172 arrests? Good for them!

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded Those are only the ones they caught. It's likely hundreds of others came into the US though the southern border in 2023 without being caught. It's clearly a national security threat, but Democrats are fine with that.

[goaded]

So that's a scarily high number?

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded Is that a serious question?

[goaded]

Yes it's a serious question. Is 172 encounters with people whose names appeared on the federal government's official list of known or suspected terrorists bad?

Specifically, would a smaller or larger number be worse?

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded The only acceptable number would be zero, and we should be working harder to get closer to that goal. Terrorists entering the country freely is obviously a dangerous situation that could have devastating consequences, such as what happened on 9/11. Does that not concern you?

[goaded]

So what do you think of the 2019 number, under Trump?

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded In 2019 there were a total of 3, which is 3 too many but still exponentially better than on Biden's watch.

[Opinion Owner]

Additionally, all 3 of those came in through the northern border, not one came through the southern border. In 2023, 169 of the 172 terrorists came through the southern border. Why? Because Biden opened the floodgates with his policies and essentially told the world they are free to come through our southern border.

[goaded]

Wrong! "OFO encounters of all persons at ports of entry with records within the TSDS at the time of their encounter. Southwest Border" 2019: 280.
www.cbp.gov/.../cbp-enforcement-statistics-fy2023

Trump and Biden enabled terrorists, or both of them tried to catch them?

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded No, I'm not wrong. The 172 I quoted initially was, as I said (scroll up), the umber of US Border Patrol encounters with illegals who are suspected terrorists coming across the border, and that's specifically what I've been talking about. The comedy here is that I took it from the same source you linked. Try scrolling down and clicking on Terrorist Screening Data Set Encounters link, then look at the 'U. S. Border Patrol TSDS Encounters Between Ports of Entry of Non-U. S. Citizens' table. My numbers came from that, and every one was 100% accurate. Nice try though.

[Opinion Owner]

Additionally, Chinese illegals coming across the border have skyrocket from 178,000 between 2015 and 2019 to 2.4 million in 2022 alone. That's scary, and a major security threat.

It doesn't take a genius to see that Biden's border policies have put us all at greater risk.

[goaded]

"The 172 I quoted initially was..." exactly the same statistic I gave for 2019, on Trump's watch: 280.

"The Terrorist Screening Dataset (TSDS) – also known as the “watchlist”", at the link I gave that shows numbers were far higher in 2019.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded Your comment is irrelevant to what I was talking about.