Why are birthrates low?

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nightdrot · Accepted Answer

It is the normal pattern that as an economy industrializes its' birthrates tend - usually after a brief surge - to decline. This being because the cost of educating and raising a child will increase while the economic need for more children to "work the fields," as it were, declines.

Raising a child to function in an industrializing - and now post-industrial, which is to say service/tech - economy is an expensive undertaking. It is one thing to teach a growing child how to fish or grow corn, quite another to manufacture widgets, so to speak. So parents will still have children - it being a normal human instinct to procreate - but will have fewer.

Moreover, unlike in more primitive economies, in an industrialized/post-industrial economy, after the child is educated, he generally moves out on his/her own. This of course being what parents want - they want their children to be independent - but this reduces the return on the investment, so to speak.

By contrast, in a rural/agricultural economy, the child stayed on the farm. They helped parents with chores and such and thus were a net positive to the domestic economy. Plus, as such an economy did not require higher education, the costs of raising a child were proportionately smaller. (Also, higher infant mortality rates in more primitive economies tends to result in the birth of more children since parents will - instinctively - have more children to offset the potential loss of earlier children.)

Then throw in to all of this that as the economy develops, so will change the culture. Thus attitudes toward families, tradition and child rearing will change - and to some extent become less receptive to - the idea of having children and raising large families. Culture and economics reinforce each other and shifting demographic patterns follow.

It is no accident, to borrow a line, that Europe and Japan - the first countries to industrialize and the least receptive to immigration - have the oldest populations. (In demographic terms, Japan and Italy have the oldest and second oldest populations, respectively, on Earth.) The economic and demographic factors - and in the case of Japan the staunch resistance to immigration as a homogeneous and somewhat insular island nation has reinforced the demographic realities.

The USA's population is also aging and birthrates declining, but this has been offset by its openness to immigration from more economically primitive societies. In those societies, the higher birthrates are offset by wars, economic shortage and limited health facilities. Suffice to say, people from such countries do not change their fertility when they come to a safer society - at least not initially - and this has helped the USA to have a somewhat higher birthrate by the standards of the industrialized world.

(Religion too, also plays a part as it tends, for a variety of reasons, to be a stronger cultural force in the USA than in much of the rest of the Western world. Though as religious observance has declined in the USA, so too has the birthrate.)

Bottom line, declining birthrates and aging populations are pretty much the demographic norm as economies modernize. To be sure, there are related cultural and sociological factors at work, too. However, these cannot be neatly separated from the other demographic and economic forces at play.

RichA322 · Accepted Answer

Hold on. I turn my brain off to give you the most Incels answers.

Right wing Incels

the Communist are responsible for it
Klaus Schwab and the WEF are responsible because he is a communist
the left Wing American communists, Like Bill Gates, are responsible because they are poisoning our water
the Chinese are responsible, they Are poisoning our water
the Democrats are behind this
housing is way too affordable for the lower class and the masses, so instead of breeding new slaves they buy houses instead. We have to increase the housing prices to fix this.
We need to lower that taxes on the rich

Left wing Incels

the capitalists are responsible for it
Klaus Schwab and the WEF are responsible because he is a capitalist
the Greedy American capitalists, Like Bill Gates, are responsible because they are poisoning our water
the Russians are responsible, they Are poisoning our water
the Republicans are behind this
housing is not affordable enough. So instead of starting a family, people can not even afford their life. We need make housing affordable again to fix this
We need to raise the taxes on the rich

Hope that was enough bullshit from both sides for you.

purplepoppy · Accepted Answer

Did you know that not so long ago if you died without having kids people would plant nettles on your grave to show their disgust. I wonder how long before we see people having to explain to the authorities why they haven't had kids. Wouldn't put it past them slamming you in the village breeding stocks.

Apple1996 · Accepted Answer

Incels can't get their dick wet so I guess they are the reason for low birth rates 😂😂😂

MzAsh · Answer

Women don’t want to give birth once they realize they committed tan a man who they have to finish raising anyway.

MisterWack · Answer

Cost of living being too damn high.

- Inflation

- Housing Market

- Recession Scares

- Male & Female gender not seeing eye to eye

- Dating Apps not caring about if your date is successful, just that it gives their bank accounts more flow

- Individuals wanting to put more effort into being the best versions of oneself through improving mental & physical health and balancing college / fast food or retail job (which is a good thing)

- Less pressure from society to have children & waiting patiently in order to make the appropriate decision

These are the real reasons why the birthrate is low and continues to chug behind. Don’t judge or utilize this moment as a way to spread conspiracy theories / hate for clout because it doesn’t change the facts!

Astarlessnightsky · Answer

Cost of living are at an all time high.

Birthrates have been declining for several decades, due to better medicine and higher survival rates for new born.

Kids are literally garbage to politicians until they are old enough to vote. So the world for kids is barely good enough for them to survive until the voting age.

Avicenna · Answer

Several reasons. A lack of economic stability for many, a lot of broken families (who wants to have kids with someone who already has kids with one or more people?), not being with someone they want to have kids with, not wanting to take on the task of raising kids. I think those are the main ones why people don’t have kids.

virtualwasp · Answer

with the whiff of dictators and ww3 on the horizon, the poor economic outlook for most of the world. Its doesn't make sense when you can't provide a good childhood.

ForevrLonely29 · Answer

I am not an incel. I am engaged. But I will say that neofeminism, online dating, and unrealistic expectations have destroyed the dating world. Not only that, testosterone levels in men have been declining and there isn't much emphasis on this concern. The economy is also shit, and the leftist political/social climate has been especially challenging for straight, white, Christian men.

Anonymous · Answer

feminists are threatening sex strikes all the time when they don't get what they want

no sex = no pregnancy = no babies

but sure, you wanna blame it on "incels" like they are the problem for the low birthrate

am I right, or do you have someone else in mind to blame? like Trump?

RavVid · Answer

I'd say both guys and gals have worked out kiddies are very expensive pets and stop them having expensive holidays. Plus guys and gals no longer like each other other than for sex.

Sevenpointfive · Answer

because incels are losing their jobs to illegals and can't afford to support white women that only fuck black men. did i get it right?

genericname85 · Answer

cause litterally everything that facilitated a healthy core family is gone. people can't afford houses. they can barely afford cars and giving birth alone is a 50k hospital bill. people litterally just don't have the money to get children.

Gwendoline · Answer

Women are choosing to have children later in life and can only afford 1 or 2.

dustybiker2 · Answer

Who wants to give birth facing the next four years?

oldpigg · Answer

The solution is to make abortion illegal in all cases, which I am in favor of.

Juxtapose · Answer

Rough economies mean less reproduction at times. People tighten up on resources.

exitseven · Answer

acording to the latest count was are at 8.3 billion people. A new worlds record.

DrPepper12 · Answer

😂 😂 😂 😂 They couldn't even talk to a woman let alone explain the birds n bees...

KrakenAttackin · Answer

Women are waiting too long to try to start families and are empty egg cartons by the time they "settle" for a provider.

RedInnocent69 · Answer

Because kids are expensive and no one believes in self-sacrifice anymore

QuietRunner · Answer

@oddbeme This a trend of nations that go from poor to rich.

CheeseMonster · Answer

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