Why would Ukraine trust another brokered peace?

[OddBeMe]

It's been betrayed more times than an incel.

2019 Trump "peace deal" Russia invaded 3 years later

[Anonymous]

Putin never attacked when Trump was in office

he only attacked when Bush, Obama and Biden were in office

that's why Vance needs to be Trump's successor to keep Putin away from Ukraine

whoever the Democrats have won't deter Putin from invading Ukraine

[DryGermanGuy]

Dude! Maybe more access to reality, less parroting! Trump was in office 2017-2020, during which time Russia's hordes continuously attacked Ukraine in the Donetsk and Luhansk districts. You think they just didn't get the memo?

[Opinion Owner]

@DryGermanGuy bullshit. Russia attacked Ukraine after the Biden negotiations went wrong

[OddBeMe]

Putin was attacking when trump was in office. Made a deal and broke it.

[Opinion Owner]

@oddbeme if you're talking about right now with Trump in office, yeah no shit Sherlock

at least he's trying to end the war. Biden didn't do shit. Kamala didn't do shit

[DryGermanGuy]

It's so obvious that you have no insight on what happened. Knock yourself out:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Svitlodarsk
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Avdiivka_(2017)
en.wikipedia.org/.../Timeline_of_the_war_in_Donbas_(2017)
en.wikipedia.org/.../Timeline_of_the_war_in_Donbas_(2018)
en.wikipedia.org/.../Timeline_of_the_war_in_Donbas_(2019)
en.wikipedia.org/.../Timeline_of_the_war_in_Donbas_(2020)

[Opinion Owner]

@DryGermanGuy why did you purposely not post the 2014 link?

oh that's right, because Obama was in office in 2014

even then it was an internal civil war between pro-Ukraine Ukrainians and pro-Russia Ukrainians

and nobody gave a shit about Ukraine/Russia until Trump came into office. FOH with your virtue signaling

[DryGermanGuy]

You mentioned no war being conducted during the Trump administration, so I corrected you on it. Who cares about Obama all of a sudden? If you want to stroll down memory lane completely, why not end up in the 1930s holodomor, to really complete the picture?
You also might want to read up what slang like "virtue signaling" really means, because nobody used any virtues here, expressed or implied.

[Opinion Owner]

@DryGermanGuy you don't actually give a shit about Ukraine otherwise you'd be there fighting on the frontlines right now instead of whining and insisting the government send other people to go die there

[DryGermanGuy]

More unstable nonsense, disinformation and insinuations from you! You sound like a perpetually angry person. Nobody relevant and certainly not me demanded "other people" to die in Ukraine. And let me tell you that people can help Ukraine in other ways instead of fighting. Donating for trucks, drones and medical equipment for example. Also, the United States e. g. sharing crucial satellite intelligence information with Ukraine doesn't cost them a dime.
But what puzzles me the most, that you still don't understand what this is all about - it's simply a fight of good versus evil! Putin has the personal goal of re-establishing the Soviet Union in its old glory again, he isn't exactly making a big secret out of it! So, if he manages to overthrow Ukraine, he will start a puppet regime there and then use Ukrainian people as troops to attack the next target, probably the Baltics. It's a simple repetition of the playbook he used in Chechnya.

[Opinion Owner]

@DryGermanGuy lol many countries are already having talks of sending ground troops to Ukraine. Ukraine is forcibly kidnapping men and sending them to fight in the front lines

stopping the fighting should be priority but liberals like you these days are warmongers who couldn't give a shit how many lives are lost

there's no good or evil here. both sides are corrupt on par with Israel and Palestine

Putin doesn't want the Soviet Union. he wants to join NATO but NATO would rather create their own Soviet Union with their leftist policies against Russia and try to include Ukraine too

[ProbablyClueless]

"Betrayed more times than an incel" was exactly the giggle I needed right now 🤣👌

Thank you

[Agape93]

It would be stupid.

@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 you know me well. If I broke into a chomos house to kill him, and a neighbor asked me to leave and not come back, what are the chances I'll listen and obey?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

About as good as the chances he would get to see another sunrise. Zilch

[Agape93]

Exactly.

[OddBeMe]

Chomos?

[Agape93]

Prison term. Means a child molester

[OddBeMe]

Glad I didn't know that lol

[dustybiker2]

He was asked to say "thank you"?

That's sus right there. Get outta dodge.

[Anonymous]

They know it's just dumb ass Trump and his crazy cult who can't handle any disagreements. So once he is gone and we get AOC then they will be will to do talks with the USA again.

[Ladsin2]

Purpose of a ceasefire is literally to ceasefire. It's not meant to be a long term security guarantee or lead to lasting peace. Just ask the Jews, if ceasefires lead to peace then the middleast would be the safest place on Earth. The goal of a ceasefire in Ukraine at this point in time is to stop the bloodshed and pursue a lasting peace in time. Give them time to arm as needed, or negotiate security guarantees with their neighbors/ US.

[OddBeMe]

So you're not for a ceasefire now. Good

[Ladsin2]

I am in favor of a ceasefire at this time, because "The goal of a ceasefire in Ukraine at this point in time is to stop the bloodshed and pursue a lasting peace in time. Give them time to arm as needed, or negotiate security guarantees with their neighbors/ US."

[Pohjolan]

Everyone knows that giving in to Trump's demands would just mean a continuation war later on.

So they would trust Russia to attack them again.

[DrPepper12]

It can't, shouldn't and won't. For you USA Americans, remember your promise & keep your word!!!

[beefcakebradybatson]

Because Ukraine will likely again be sold down the river.

[Sevenpointfive]

i like how at the beginning of this war the media was fighting so hard for them.

[Anonymous]

Ukraine doesn't have much choice in the matter. America can't continue pouring hundred of billions of $ into a losing war.

[OddBeMe]

Why? 600 billion defense spending a year. We've spent 130 billion over the last several years.

I think stopping putins hostility is q defense priority. You?

[Opinion Owner]

I think stopping the killing of thousands of people is a good goal. You?

[OddBeMe]

Fdr valued ending hitler over thousands of deaths. It's tough. But you're really for appeasing putin?

[Opinion Owner]

It's not about appeasing Putin. As much as you nutters would like to believe it is, it doesn't make it so. It's about saving lives, and stopping the flow of hundreds of millions of US dollars into a losing war. I know cutting waste and abuse is not important to you as a liberal, but it is to the sane majority of Americans.

I will say it's been entertaining to watch you libtards continuing to lose your shit, so thanks for that.

[Anonymous]

Zelensky choose war instead of peace.

[OddBeMe]

Soo did our founding fathers

[Opinion Owner]

But they won, Ukraine has lost. It also bankrupt the country that was funding their war.

[Dargil]

They won't have a better choice.

[Anonymous]

So what do you suggest?

[OddBeMe]

Bleed russia until they shrink back and never attack again.

[PeterOtools]

Who cares?