Hey Trump voters is this what you voted for?

[Cormac995]

I was under the impression that these illegal immigrants were rapists' murderers and drug dealers. I was also under the impression we were going to lower government spending and that deporting them was going to be good for the country's economy so can you explain to me what the hell is going on with offering these "Rapists, murders, and drug dealers" $1000 to leave the country? As a taxpayer how do you feel about paying $1000 per illegal immigrant that leaves willingly? If someone broke into your home, would you pay them $1000 dollars to get out of your house or would you beat their ass like anyone with common sense?

Also, these bombing campaigns on the houthis are just a chest thumping economic nightmare. The houthis are just hiding in their bunkers and we're bombing them with APKWS = $22,000 each SM-2 surface-to-air missiles = 770,000 each and Tomahawk missiles = 5-10 million each. You know what's a lot cheaper? Boots on the ground with Yemenise support which has been offered. We'll be done with those savages in a month and they'll be chewed up into a tiny fragment of what they are now. We're playing whack a mole with these terrorists but if republicans are the party of good government spending can you tell me what the hell this is?

Don't believe me about paying criminals that entered our country to leave? Here's the statements themselves one from the left one from the right. Also if their are any Catholics here what are your thoughts on Trump making a mockery of the pope? Oh yea and the $1000 dollars is what they get after the tax payers by them a plane ticket. So why are we paying criminals that broke the law to enter our country to leave?

[DrPepper12]

Yemeni. Not yemenise.

I thought you would be thrilled at $1,000 bounty to self-deport! That's getting off insanely cheap if anyone actually takes the offer (spoiler alert no one will who isn't already planning to leave anyway!)

The military has to keep on using its kit or selling it to justify their now 1 trillion dollar budget. It's madness but I'm told it creates jobs - WTF?

Yes I'm familiar with his mocking the Pope. Imagine if Obama had done it...

I don't want to hear another word from ANY MAGA "Christians" ever again. Just STFU & sit down.

[Cormac995]

Exactly! As usual I can count on you to provide some sanity. The people who take it are just getting free money and a ride or they're just using it to go back home before coming right fucking back. It also defies logic. Trumpers are saying "All these immigrants are rapists' murderers and drug dealers that's why they need to go!" Then why the fuck are we paying them?

You know what that's called? A ransom. If this is an "Invasion" and we're paying them to go it means we lost and they get tribute you MAGA idiots. Also, if they really are Rapists and murderers as an American, I'd rather see em get roughed up and be deported the rough way because it sends a message. If you pay them to leave it does nothing to disincentivize people breaking the law to come in.

And yea I've never met a single MAGA that was Christian in any sense of the word. In fact, they seem to treat breaking the ten commandments as a check list yet they always have the perfect scripture to justify hate. "Trump Brand Bible." Jesus would be whipping MFers for that one. This pope thing is part of Trumps god complex and the cult of personality he's building.

As for the military needing to use their kit there's some truth in that but in this case these weapons are brand new and not even close to their decommission date and with WW3 around the corner IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE AS MUCH OF OUR BEST ORINANCE AS POSSIBLE INSTEAD OF WASTING IT ON RAG TAG PIRATES!

The funny thing about what you said too is in my lifetime barack obama was the best president we've had and for the record I think he was shit too. The last time we had a president that was worth having at all was Teddy Roosevelt. As far as I'm concerned every president since has done more harm than good.

[Cormac995]

Also MAGA was loosing their shit over a few million dollars going to foreign gender change surgeries which is fucking stupid yes but you fire 5 million dollar missiles like their candy at a bunch of pirates in rags with sticks and stones and nobody cares about the spending? WTF? All these arguments collapse in on themselves because they contradict each other and make no sense.

[exitseven]

It costs $50,000 per illegal alien per year to support them. We cannot deport them yet and maybe will not be able to deport them without a trial so give each one of them a thousand bucks and a plane ticket is a novel idea. If we can cutoff all the welfare and fine companies that hire them so much they will be bankrupt they will self deport and save billions.

[Cormac995]

What do you think they're going to do with that money? They're going to come right back in or it's going to go to the cartels and then we're literally giving money to terrorists if what Trump is saying about them is true and if it isn't than he's just a liar and this holds even less water. We're going to get rid of the gaming members by paying them to leave when they're entire bussiness model revolves around illegally entering the country? This is just paying a ransom, you know who pays ransoms? The side that lost.

I don't have enough information on hand to dispel your claim of $50,000 so I admit I have insufficient knowledge to challenge that, but I do remain skeptical of the number. What I will add is this is irrelevant because he's broken multiple laws to do this and ignored a direct order from the supreme court which is treason.

Further the method of how you address the problem matters, and I can't think of a single country that solves crime by rewarding criminals. If these people really are the monsters trump says they are. "Many aren't' than I don't want the carrot I want the stick because otherwise they'll just come back again.

I actually support most of the deportations too many illegal immigrants does hurt the economy and is causing crime problems in some places. Further we have foreign agents stirring up protests on American soil like that mahmoud khalil fucker. He shouldn't be deported he should go to government interrogation and then a supermax prison but how you do things matters!

[exitseven]

The border is a lot more secure than it was just 3 months ago. They realize that the welfare spigot has been turned off and that they are not welcome here. I bet most will not make the trek here again.

[Cormac995]

You do realize the only sate in the entire country that gives welfare to illegals is California right? And that's done at the state level and the people there wanted it that way. It's done out of the state budget too so unless you live in California what you're saying isn't even true. If you do live in California and want that to change than take it up with your state government because it's in their state jurisdiction not the feds.

Second any numbers Trump gives have to be double checked he constantly just makes up numbers and says "Millions and billions. He gave 3 different numbers with millions of dollars in difference when he talked about Ukraine in the same freaking week! He just pulls it out his ass you can't trust any number he gives.

Third, the whole reason supposedly for these deportations is they're all criminals and drug dealers so if they're making money committing crime in America why wouldn't they come back later? If you ran a businesses would you move away from your customers for $1000? No you'd take the money go home where you're economy is shit and you can live like a king for a bit then you're gang will smuggle you right back over the border so they can get right back to it again. The only people who take the money and won't come back are the illegals that are just here doing their thing and minding their businesses.

[Cormac995]

Yes it doesn't change the fact they're a problem for the economy but they aren't nearly as big as one as people say it is and the southern boarder is more secure yes but the flood of illegals has barely changed at all. They're just going around it now. Yes it has gone down and arrests have gone up at the boarder but it doesn't matter if you get stabbed in the gut or the chest you bleed out either way one is just longer. You know how we fix illegal immigration over night? Make it a felony to hire Illegal immigrants with a minimum 1 year prison sentence. Bam problem solved.

If they can't find work they'll stop coming because work is the entire reason all the non-violent ones have come here for in the first place. If they can't get jobs they have no reason to come here in the first place. I don't know about you but ink on paper sounds a lot cheaper than deporting people one by one and begging a few of them to leave for a bribe.

Also can you explain to me how this helps at all with deterrence? I'm sorry but why would people stop coming here when they could just take the gamble they don't get caught and when they're ready to go home they just leave on their own and walk away with a $1000 bonus check and a free plane ticket home? That's not a deterrence if anything it would encourage me.

[exitseven]

The state I live in gives them 25,000/year for rent and then food , healthcare , iPhone and other freebees. New York and NJ are just as bad. Most states run by democrats give them welfare. There are federal benefits as well. EBT cards come from the fed.

[Cormac995]

You're right about New York I just checked but you can only get wellfare in new jersey if you're a legal immigrant. It makes sense with New York because it's an asylum city but guess what? It's at the state level again and it's what the people of New York voted in. If it's the will of the people than that's that if they don't like it than they should look into getting new mayors and changing how they vote.

I thought the point of states rights was they're allowed to make autonomous decisions from the feds as it should be? That said I won't deny New York is a dumpster fire because if I did I'd just be outright wrong but if you want the wellfare to illegals to stop than vote for the guy who says he'll get rid of it. If he doesn't win then tough that's democracy and how it works. You don't get to break the rules when you win and insist they be followed when you lose.

[exitseven]

The Feds are shelling out billions. FEMA spent billions flying them around the country instead of helping disaster victims in the Carolinas.
nypost.com/.../

[Cormac995]

I don't trust anything from the New York post. They're almost as bad as CNN and Fox are. The only reason I picked those two is because I wanted to prove that both sides were covering it. If you can find other reports from the left or center that collaborate it then you'll have definitely made a fair point but it still doesn't change the massive hoard of other issues this is causing. For the record thanks for not being a duche you're the only person in this thread that hasn't taken the bait which is a pleasant surprise and rather refreshing.

[exitseven]

I live in a city about 300 miles from New York. There is plenty of crimes that happen here that never make the local papers but they show up in the New York Post. In fact a lot of the 7-11 stores sell the Post. I trust the Post , more than any other newspaper. Most are not fit to wrap fish with.

[Cormac995]

Oh, I'm well aware of the crime spree in new York and how bad things have gotten I follow Cash Jordan and I've seen the footage and state of things myself. The crux of the issue comes down to doing the right thing the wrong way. Like I said I support the majority of the deportations. Sending them to a foreign countries prisons though? I've seen what El Salvador's prisons are like. They treat human rights violations like it's check list.

Further even if that's what the gaming bangers deserve we still have the problem that

1. The way Trump is doing this is illegal and outside his authority and he did it anyways.

2. He directly disobeyed an order from the supreme court which is treason... again.

3. Human rights violations are happening as a result of it.

I want the illegals gone, I want the crime to stop and I want the drugs out but if you don't do things the right way it makes it worse in the long run. Even if Trump doesn't try to become dictator, even if he really does have pure intentions "He doesn't" at the very best this sets a very, very dangerous precedent that in the future could lead to those things. Setting precedent matters especially if they get away with it. What's covenant today isn't always safe by tomorrow.

[Anonymous]

Makes sense if it eases the burden to taxpayers. Probably costs taxpayers $100,000 per person to deport.

[LauraJ00]

I see you’re going to war with Trump supporters. Brave old you. Im Canadian, no opinion.

[Cormac995]

Well if Trump get's his way you might need one and no I'm not here to go to war with them this is a vent session all I'm doing is replying to their bullshit to show how hollow what they're saying is. It's cathartic making stupid people look stupider. Besides anyone who reads this and has an open mind can see the lies dispelled and if they have their head too far up their ass to acknowledge facts than there opinion doesn't mean anything to me anyways because they're too stupid for me to take any insult they make seriously. They probably can't even read at a 5th grade lvl frankly.

[Ariesman81]

If getting this shit handled means Trump needs to become dictator-esque... then he has my blessing.

Look into what Lincoln had to do in order to end the civil war and slavery.

[Cormac995]

We found a retard ladies and gentlemen. I don't even need to make an argument this is idiocy spoken with a full chest.

[Ariesman81]

You just gonna shout real loud or you gonna educate yourself?

[Cormac995]

I'm the one here who should be saying this. From where I'm standing not a single person here has made an argument I can't prove to be bullshit.

[Ariesman81]

Yeah... but when you're standing eye level in a pile of shit it tends to be all you can see.

[Cormac995]

I never claimed I was here solely for pure reasons. Yes this does serve the purpose of publicly debunking every stupid thing they've said but it's also cathartic. Making idiots look as stupid as they really are can be rewarding.

[Ariesman81]

Hahaha... I know the feeling

[DrPepper12]

You're a fool Aries

[seeyounexttuesday]

It probably costs less to give them $1000 to self deport than it does to pay ICE to find them, rough them up and deport them.

So yeah, when you're a capable business man you take the cheaper option for the same result.

[Cormac995]

Doesn't fucking matter if they're "Gang members and rapists than why the fuck are we giving them money? Besides if we give gangsters money what do you think they're going to do with it? Fuck us even more than they are now and trump hasn't stopped the flow the cartels are just sending larger parties in alternate drop zones knowing a lot of them will get through just by numbers if they go just a little further east. FFS they're smuggling them in through Canada now too and we have next to nobody on that boarder. We're paying them to leave and come back. Also, I don't give a fuck if it's cheaper! If they really are gangsters and rapists I don't want my government to give them a damn cent and I want them to get roughed up.

That's what we paid our taxes for, protection not appeasement. That is assuming all these people are criminals which not all of them are and they're have been tons of cases already of people just nabbed and deported falsey and found to be innocent. So what is it MAGA? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

ANd what about the costs of his incompetent handling of the war with the Huthies? That remains un addressed. This is what people who know they're wrong do. THey attack the only part of the argument they know they can make one against and ignore the part they can't explaine. Also calling him a capable buissnes man is laughble he went bankrupt with multiple casinos which are the easiest money making machine in the world. He had most of his failed buissnesses bailed out by Russia and he completely botched the Ukraine Mineral deal and the new offer is nothing like the one he wanted and he had to suck it and accept the deal Zelenski wanted and not the one he drew up. Trump didn't land a mineral deal he threw a tantrum and Zelenski said "You done?" then put pen to paper and is getting everything he wanted.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Biden gave them free flights and cell phones. GTFOH

[Cormac995]

Uh no he didn't and if it was fucked up when Biden did it why isn't it fucked up when Trump does it?

[seeyounexttuesday]

Uh yes he did.

I explained it succinctly. It costs money to deport illegals, but it's a savings over what we spend in public services on them. If we can save even more money by letting people self deport all the better.

[Cormac995]

and I already explained succinctly why that's wrong and stupid and doesn't fix the problem and only makes things worse. And for the record yet again. I don't want it done cheap! I want it done right!

[seeyounexttuesday]

It’ll be right when they’re gone. You’re misplacing your anger, Biden is the one that created the mess you’re having to pay to fix.

It happens when you’re an emotional toddler.

[David318578]

That just shows how bad Biden messed up our country if we all have to pay $1000 per to deport the illegals that Biden let in.

[Cormac995]

I won't deny sleepy Joe was an incompetent moron well passed his prime who never should have run but Trump is was older than Biden was when Biden ran for his first term this election. Trump is constantly having rambling senior moments and he speaks in word salad. Trump is even dumber and more senile than Biden was and yes Kamila would have been a fucking train wreck too but a literal monkey is better than trump because at least then the cabinet are the ones running things. Have you seen what's happened to the DOW Jones since he became president? The value and trust in the American dollar is devastated China is dumping our debt bonds to fuck us and on top of all of this Germany is so scared of Trumps bullshit they pulled ALL of their gold out of our banks.

Further he's been looking like a bumbling baffoon achieving nothing and all the world leaders have 0 respect for him and are openly snubbing and insulting him for his BS behavior. He's done so much damage to foreign relations it's going to take decades to fix the damage if it can be fixed at all.

[Caughtulookin]

Do anti Trumps just sit around making up fiction from your stoned friends comments? You took bits and pieces of the stuff you remembered from your mannequin models on the TV with out an education and filled in the gaps with your emotions.

[Anonymous]

When you have the left doing everything they can to put up road blocks to deporting them , you have to improvise.

[Cormac995]

Did it occur to you they're trying to block him because he broke the law and ignored an order from the supreme court which is illegal too? In fact many of the things he's done in regards to the deportations is illegal. He signed executive orders that went beyond his legal authority as president and is doing it anyways. The courts ordered him to stop which is in their authority since what Trump is doing is illegal and he did it anyways which is impeachable YET AGAIN!

By ignoring the orders of the supreme court, he has violated and broke the laws of our governments checks and balances. This isn't funny or a small thing that we can just accept and overlook because it's convenient this is treason AGAIN! I want the bad illegals gone especially these pro HAMAS and terrorist sympathizers that are guests in our country, and I want immigration to be reformed but I don't want it to come at the cost of violating the constitution of the United States!

[Opinion Owner]

What supreme court order? To facilitate the return of the human trafficker from El Salvador? Do you know what facilitate means?

[Cormac995]

1. It doesn't fucking matter! It's an order from the supreme court the President does not have the legal power to refuse it! What he's doing is treason whether you like what he's doing or not. The rules don't only apply when you want them too.

2. That dude in the media that the left are making a martyre out of is in fact not a criminal. 1st the picture of his tattoos was fake. It's a photoshop so obvious if you can't tell once you give it a good look you need your eyes checked. Further the tattoos don't even say MS13

He had a Weed leaf on one finger a smiley face on another, a Christain cross on the third and a skull on the 4th. Can you tell me how that spells MS13? SO not only was it photoshopped but the photo shopped image doesn't even say what they say it does! He was here legally on a VISA because he was fleeing from the gang they're accusing him of being a member of because that gang brutalized his family and want to kill him.

3. I'm well aware of what facilitate means that doesn't change the fact THIS IS TREASON! I don't care if it speeds up the process it's illigal and the whole point of us having a supreme court is to be able to tell the president no! If the president doesn't have to listen to them he's a dictator.

[Opinion Owner]

It absolutely does fucking matter. Worse have meaning and the meaning of the words tells you exactly what the order says. It says Trump must facilitate the return, not that he has to go get the guy. If El Salvador doesn't want to send him back, the US has no control over what they do with their own citizens. If they were willing to send them back, which they aren't, Trump would have to make that happen, that's all it says. Words have meaning.

[Cormac995]

And trump didn't have the authority to deport him in the first place because he was a fully legal resident that has no criminal record! And the president of Al Salvador won't give him back because Trump doesn't want a witness to what's really happening coming back to tell the truth. What? You think the president of El Salvador wouldn't hand him over when asked by the president himself? Bull-shit. Yes he's not an American Citizen but this is a PR nightmare for Trump right now. Bringing him back would solve a shit ton of the problems he's facing but the reality is he doesn't want him back because he'll get caught running concentration camps.

Further on top of all of this every single time Trump has been asked about it he's done nothing but encourage him to stay locked up! He's openly and publicly spread multiple lies about that man with his own mouth that he's been told by multiple people ARE NOT TRUE!

[Opinion Owner]

Why El Salvage isn't sending him back is irrelevant. The order isn't being violated. That's the point. Your whole novel you wrote up there doesn't change that, regardless of how bad you want it to.

[Opinion Owner]

El Salvador... ugh

[Cormac995]

And what you're saying changes nothing else I've said. It doesn't change the fact Trump CAN get him back but won't. It doesn't change the fact Trump is breaking the law by ignoring the courts and this isn't even the only way he's done it. It doesn't change the fact he's signed multiple illigal executive orders, it doesn't change the fact he's commited treason and it doesn't change the fact he's unfit for office in every way and you have not given a single counter that can't be countered by me and you have only picked one of my many points as a sticking point because it's the only one you think you can properly address. You're ignoring everything else I typed because you can't prove it wrong because I'm right.

[Opinion Owner]

Are you retarded? He is NOT ignoring the order because the order does NOT say he has to get the guy back. I'm not addressing your other points because I'm addressing what applies to my original point, not all the nonsense you decided to throw in after your TDS frothing got out of control. I'm not going to follow you down every rabbit hole full of the straws you want to grasp at.

[Cormac995]

So now you're trying to flip what I said back on me because you're out of idea's and defenses and I already covered this. Trump isn't getting him back because he can't he's not getting him back because he won't. What is the president of El Salvador going to do? Say no to giving back one man when Trump is making them a shit ton of money with what he's doing?

Why not threaten sanctions? This is the biggest PR nightmare of his career and you're telling me he won't do what it takes to make it go away when he was already doing far more for far less? Wake up and think for five seconds and use common sense. The level of idiocy and ignorance among you all is astonishing.

One guy seems like a small favor for a massive boost to your economy? No, the truth is that Trump is keeping him there because he knows too much now that he's been there and he doesn't want him to come back and spread the truth your stupid if you think otherwise. Further you're still ignoring that what he did was illegal in the first place!

[Cormac995]

Even if he gets the guy back he still broke the law, he still disobeyed the courts and that's illegal and treason any way you spin it to send him to El Salvador at all in the first place and he's deliberately spreading lies and miss information about him that has been proven wrong multiple times and even told to him to his face.

I'm sorry you were dropped on your head too many times as a baby to realize common sense. Guess it's true that it's easier to trick someone than convince them they were tricked. You haven't made a single valid point to any of my criticisms that wasn't dismissed with 1. Facts 2. Common sense.

You Trumpers are all the same too stupid ignorant and prideful to admit your wrong but the reality is you're all morons that were tricked by a buffoon and you're to insecure to admit you fucked up. Remember this conversation when the country falls apart and ends up in a depression. Every bit of suffering Trump inflicts on you is your and idiots like you fault.

He didn't just ignore the order to get him back he ignored an order from the courts and broke federal law when he deported him in the first place! Sending him at all was illegal so not getting him back isn't the only problem. The fact he was sent at all was illegal you dumb ass as I explained several times.

Do you even speak English or are you using google translate? Amazing how many people want English to be the official language when they don't even speak it properly. You're just repeating the same single argument you THINK you have because it's the only thing you thought you could win at but you're wrong so now you're doubling down and trying to gas light because you just got fucked in a debate with common sense and facts.

And you know what the stupidest part about all this is? You're a woman defending a rapist you dumb cunt.

[Opinion Owner]

I'm not reading your novel there. You're an idiot that doesn't have the capacity for original thought, nor reading comprehension, it seems. You don't know what words mean, which isn't my problem. You can't control what others do and think, and you just can't stand that. It just kills you, so here you are, throwing a fit like a toddler, with your childish name calling. You have no control to impose your will on others. Cry about it.

[Cormac995]

Of course you're not reading it. You're an ignorant idiot throwing a fit because you lost an argument and made yourself look like a stupid dumb cunt. Reading my wall of text would only make you feel stupider.

[Cormac995]

Also for the love of god get your own material instead of throwing mine back at me. "Nuh uh you are!" That's what you sound like.

[Opinion Owner]

Lol. You have no control to impose your will. It just kills you doesn't it? No one lost a debate to you. You don't even know what you're arguing. Fuck off.

[Cormac995]

Really cause from where I'm standing I've countered everything you've said as bullshit and you're clearly losing you shit now. Why would it kill me unless I was dying of laughter? You do realize that I started this thread knowing I would get nothing but MAGA BS right? I didn't start this thread because I expected a healthy discussion the whole reason I started it was I knew I could make anything you said look stupid and ridiculous and humiliate anyone who bit. You swallowed the bait hook line and sinker. If I was fishing you'd be a 10 pound bass.

You're the star in your own clown show and all I did was give you somewhere to perform. I'm getting everything I wanted out of this thread! It's a blast, why would I keep humoring bullshit? You think I was swearing at you and insulting you cause I'm angry? No I was trying to piss you off because you've been being a bitch and you MAGA have such delicate snowflake egos you make the left look like they have courage. I can tell you're seething and that's all I wanted once you started being a cunt. XD

[Opinion Owner]

On a scale of one to dead sea, just how salty are you?

[Cormac995]

Salty? No, no, no, relaxed and besides there's nothing wrong with being salty if there's something to genuinely be salty about. I'll tell you what, save this thread and buy $100 in Trump coin if Trump doesn't become dictator and serve an illegal third term and a year after his presidency ends it's worth more than $100 by even one cent I'll eat crow admit I was wrong and kiss my own ass. If you really believe him, if you really think you voted for the right guy if you really think this is going to be good for America sack up or pack up and put your money where your mouth is.

Here's a link to a guide. www.okx.com/en-us/learn/how-to-buy-trump-coin and here's one to Robinhood where you can buy some. https://robinhood.com/us/en/crypto/TRUMP/ Go on, go ahead, prove me wrong.

[Opinion Owner]

Yep, salty.

[BarryLiverstone]

Voted for Trump as his policies are better for the USA

[Cormac995]

The economy is crashing, all of our trade partners hate us, trumps tariffs forced China's hand on invading Taiwan and he's botched every business's deal and thing he's tried to do so far keeping non of his promises even the ones he's actively trying to. Small businesses are about to have a mass die off and independent small industries are being slaughtered. THe price of eggs is higher than it was under Biden, the war in Ukraine is still going and the only thing going down is gas prices and that's not trump that's Ukraine.

They've bombing Russia's oil refineries into oblivion forcing them to sell their oil as low value crude if they can sell it at all. It's made Russia desperate for money so they're selling their oil well bellow it's market price because every country they trade with knows they can't say no to a shitty deal. Then they refine it themselves and get all the profit Russia would have gotten and sell it at lower prices too.

He's shaken faith in the American dollar so much Germany has pulled all their gold out of our banks and Europe is severing many of its economic ties with us. We live in a global economy isolationism doesn't work and it never has for any country ever just from an economic perspective. Nations die without trade.

[Cormac995]

Also do you know what tariffs are? They're a tax on foreign good but hears the thing. YOU PAY THAT TAX! Those countries goods aren't being taxed on the way in they're goods are being taxed here in America. They don't pay more to import we pay more to buy. Every time trump announces a tariffs he's taxing YOU.

The US government is getting rich off of YOU not Europe not China not anyone except you. I was under the impression trump promised to lower taxes but every tariff he adds is a new tax on YOU. Also, a trade deficit doesn't mean we're loosing money it means we import more goods than we export. Here's the thing. The goods we import are mostly parts we use to make our own products that we then make at a profit. When trump put tariffs on Mexico the car industry freaked out because the cost of parts for their cars shot through the roof. You can't sell a car at a profit if the parts cost to much to make it.

In fact a trade deficit is a great sign of the economy. It means that people are buying a ton of goods which shows people have enough to engage in things like buying luxury goods from foreign countries. Do you know why we have a trade deficit with Switzerland? Because they're economy and population are tiny and they import very little from us but Swiss watches are huge in America.

[Cormac995]

We buy so many watches and sell them so little we have a trade deficits with them and its for a reason that makes perfect sense. They're population and GDP aren't even big enough to spend equal amounts on American goods if they wanted too from a math perspective alone. If you voted for Trump to fix the economy then you know who to blame when we're in a recession and if we're really unlucky a depression.

Notice anything about this graph when you look at when power changed hands from Biden to Trump? You'll also notice the massive dives line up with Tariff placements and the rises when he lifted them. You'll also notice they never go back as high as they were when they went down and news flash they won't until this nightmare ends

[BarryLiverstone]

Better policies. We agree

[Cormac995]

Then I can only assume you were dropped on your head as a baby multiple times.

[BarryLiverstone]

Nope. I’m ok

[BarryLiverstone]

Would like the upcoming tax bill to pass

[Cormac995]

By getting taxed a shit ton more?

[BarryLiverstone]

The bill will lower taxes

[BarryLiverstone]

Thankfully tariffs are not permanent

[Cormac995]

Yes but the damage they do is!

[BarryLiverstone]

Not really.

[Cormac995]

Thats just wrong.