How many people on here have used the talking point "if you're no longer MAGA because Trump attacked Iran's nuclear sites, you were never MAGA"?

[goaded]

Feel free to tag them. They've probably blocked me anyway!

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How about "Bunker-busting bombs is a de-escalation"?

[WhiteSteve]

“Talking points have been issued”🤣🤣🤣

I always wonder where they all meet up to get their stories straight and disseminate all the “alternative facts”

That’s a GLARING thing that I notice with MAGA. When something goes off the stated course, there’s silence. My question the other night about this event, the first maybe 6-12 hours, it was all anti-Trump opinions. Then after an overnight, they came pouring in to even it out.

But you could tell they just didn’t know how to respond until they were told how to feel about it. And then they come in with the fire of a thousand suns, AFTER getting their marching orders, and saying it with their chest as if it was an organically self-generated thought. I just don’t know where they go to get those marching orders. Is it Breitbart? Is that still a thing? Twitter? Tik Tok? And who is the liason between the administration and social media? Or is it some official announcement from a MAGA official. I have so many questions, except about the falsity of what they’re usually contending.

It’s just so funny, because it’s SO transparent. Honestly, when I ask questions, the amusement comes in the exposure, not so much the discussion. There are only a handful of them who I feel like they have the pre-requisite intelligence to have a respectful discourse, and actually articulate a counter-argument that I may not agree with, but I can at least just say “alright, well, I think we’re fundamentally in disagreement about this or that overall concept”, and it’s not just “Fuck you, Trump’s smart, you’re stupid, and you hate America.” The latter variety is what I usually encounter, and it generally rolls right off me as unserious conversation. My questions are usually just bait, in hopes that maybe —MAYYYYBE— even one person will read it and stop and think that maybe they don’t have a fucking clue what they’re talking about, and that they’re just regurgitating talking points that have been fed to them.

Also, it’s for annoyance, lmao. I’ve decided to give Trump the Biden treatment for the next four years. Every time he clears his throat, it’s the worst thing ever attempted by an American president. Every coincidence, every random occurrence…. always a fatal misstep and a lesson in incompetence. From Day One. Worst Of All Time, no matter what. If it doesn’t make sense…. tell everyone else THEY’RE crazy.

And let me tell you, it’s EXHAUSTING, and I’m only putting in a fraction of the effort they did. And I’m not even needing to be dishonest to do it. So in a weird way, my hat goes out to MAGA. Absolute masterclass in disinformation spreading. Mental gymnastics Simone Biles could only dream of pulling off. And it’s one of those Ron Burgandy things with the firehose of bigotry and negative perceptions of others…

I wonder if, after this is hopefully all over, that we’ll ever see a group more untethered to facts and more unmoored to reality. It’s morbidly fascinating, I can’t believe this are real humans sometimes, lmfao

[CaptainObivous]

I have not used it, but seen many on X using that talking point, and I'm not surprised as both sides use talking to discredit anyone who goes against the narrative. Die hard MAGAs are going to be in for a big shock when it back fires. Die hard MAGAs have been out in force attacking Thomas Massie for not supporting Trump bombing Iran, only thing the attacks have accomplished, is Massie raising $100,000 in the last 24 hours for his reelection campaign. Guess MAGA didn't learn from Trump's first term when he campaigned on ending the stupid wars than did a 180 and bombed Syria without a declaration which should have been ground for impeachment but wasn't because everyone on both sides we're too busy praising him for acting Presidential.

[purplepoppy]

MAGA's quite handy isn't it. America can shrug it's shoulders and say "it wasn't us, it was maga."

[goaded]

It's just the way the Republican party re-boots every few years. Remember the Tea Party?

[MisterWack]

What do I think about, "if you're no longer MAGA because Trump attacked Iran's nuclear sites, you were never MAGA"?

Well, I was MAGA the first time around as a young kid so I would say that is just to preserve their own ego / Their Master’s ego.

I always stood by, ‘facts don’t care about your feelings’ and the fact is this, not everyone has to agree on your cult-like echo chamber think tank language. Some people have individual thoughts and feelings that go against the loudest preachers. How about let them think for themselves, huh? And be the defenders of Free Speech you always wanted to be, rather than be selective of your own speech for once.

[Avicenna]

Events have passed this silly, deceptive question by because it was premised on the ridiculous idea that WW III had started, which we clearly know hasn’t. People often overreact to events, and that clearly happened in this case- this wasn’t going to become a war for the US.

[goaded]

Where did I mention WW3? Where did I say or even quote anyone saying it was going to become a war for the US? I'll wait.

[Avicenna]

Your latest attempt to stir up some shit has failed, goaded (as they always do).

[goaded]

So, as always, you just lied with every word of your opinion. What a surprise.

[Avicenna]

Is that all you’ve got, goaded? You’re a failure not only at propagandizing but also trying to stir shit up. You’re wrong about everything.

[goaded]

What more do I need? You just made shit up. I didn't mention WW3, you did. I didn't say or even quote anyone saying it was going to become a war for the US, you made that up. You're a pathetic liar.

[Snakeyes7]

I use it because Trump was very clear that Iran should never have nukes and has been saying that for decades. I wouldn't go as far as "you were never MAGA" but they clearly were not paying attention.

Trump gave Iran 60 days to give up their nuclear program. They could have avoided this, but they didn't. You expect him to just put his feet up and say "the Iranian government who want the US wiped off the map got their nukes, oh well"?

[exitseven]

is anyone really saying that? Trump ran on an America First platform. He is taking care of the people's business.

[msc545]

No, he is breaking the law all the time and enriching himself.

[exitseven]

@msc545 take a step back and ask yourself why the democrats are fighting so hard to keep illegal aliens in the country when the majority of Americans want them gone. It is not a popular position and it probably cost them the election. So ask yourself WHY?

[msc545]

It is not about keeping immigrants in the country so much as stopping the law-breaking by Trump and ICE.

[AngryCarl2]

Looks like Israel First, America second.

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[goaded]

Sorry, that one was already here.

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[exitseven]

@msc545 Democrats make the mistaken notion of failing to differentiate between immigrants and illegal aliens. They are making the mistake of trying everything that they can to precent President Trump from deporting them. They condone and encourage protest against ICE. They have flown to elSalvador spending thousands of taxpayer dollars to bring a criminal human trafficker back to America. They have seen to it that he will be out on bail. In other words he has been turned loose into the country again.
This is not a popular stance yey they double down on it.
You have to ask yourself why?

[msc545]

An illegal alien is just an immigrant who has not filled out a form. That is a misdemeanor and is not a serious criminal act at all. They're right-wing chooses to make it a serious criminal act to cover up the real reason for their prejudice, which really has to do with their inherent racism, which of course they are ashamed of as they well should be. They also do it to cover up their own criminal acts such as failure to provide due process and suppression of free speech and suppression of voting and suppression of the right to assemble and many other crimes all committed by the right in this country. This is not going to last very long because if we get to have an election you people are going to be out on your asses.

[exitseven]

@msc545 Okay- technically you are right. Thr law specifies certain conditions that must be met before entering the country. It you do not meet these conditions, you are entering the country ILLEGALLY. Thus you are an ILLEGAL ALIEN

[goaded]

You're ignoring people who enter the country legally, on a visa. You want them gone, too.

You're ignoring people who were accepted for asylum and went through the process of legally obtaining work permits, for example. You want them gone, too.

Most of all, you're ignoring that the law requires that the government proves they're in the country illegally (which can be as simple as asking the question), but that Trump's goons are pretending it doesn't.

[exitseven]

@msc545 No, it is about keeping illegal aliens in the country and signing them all up to vote.

[goaded]

Nobody gets to vote in anything other than local elections without being a citizen. It doesn't matter how many times you say it, it will never be true.

[exitseven]

The Supreme Court had to step in to prevent them from voting in Virginia. Lots of them are voting in the state where II live. Illegal aliens are given drivers licenses. The Sec of State goes on TV and says all you need to have to register to vote is a drivers licnese. The democrat run government does nothing to check who is a citizen and who is not. They are the ones who implemented a voting system where there is no check on citizenship. I am sure plenty are voting but there is no way to prove it. How convenient.

[goaded]

No, they're not. You're being lied to.

[exitseven]

no, you are the one being lied to.

[msc545]

@exitseven prove it. Post some proof if you have any because I don't think you do. As usual. More lies.

[goaded]

@msc545 He already said: "there is no way to prove it", which obviously proves it!

Of course the fact that they'd have to lie on the forms to register to vote (a crime) and actually turn up to vote (another crime) is irrelevant because "they"'re all criminals, right?

[msc545]

He cannot imagine that any American citizen would vote against Trump because Trump is obviously so wonderful and special.

[msc545]

People on the right keep making up this crap about what a serious crime it is to not fill out immigration forms and that is simply bullshit. Their real problem is that they are racist and they can't stand people who don't have white skin. They have a lot of trouble with blacks or brown people, but no trouble whatsoever with white South Africans. Isn't that interesting and disgusting as well.

[OhMyMan]

I am kind of over the word "talking points." If it's a valid point, then it's a valid point. The fact that millions of people make the point is irrelevant.

[goaded]

It's not a valid point, though, is it? We have memories.

[Dongie]

Yeah, they don't do it as good as the democrats. You folks always are the stickler for exact wording.

[msc545]

Not I. If you are no longer MAGA for any reason that is good enough for me.

[SmokinAces2000]

Is this is what it took for them to disavow MAGA then it doesn’t matter. They’re too far gone.

[OddBeMe]

Ahh no true scotsmen

[goaded]

Bingo!

[dustybiker2]

Jesus 😵‍💫

[mfused411]

Just you.