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Trump. Killing citizens. Trump. Killing random people. Trump. Illegally killing people in boats and illegally killing any survivors. Trump. Kidnapping people off the street. Trump. Deporting your pastor of 30 years. Trump. Starting a war of choice. Trump. Lies about everything.
But, most of all, gas prices got too high.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/QFwJ5yT3fss[Verse 1]
I didn't mind when he started a war in Iran
I didn’t mind when he cut my Medicaid plan
Didn't mind the tariffs when they raised my bills
Didn't mind the ICE raids and the people that they killed
I didn’t mind the rampant insider trading
Didn't mind the Venezuela invading
Didn't mind when he took my food stamps away
I didn't mind when he told Iran to blow up LA
[Chorus]
But I guess the gas prices are too high now
But I guess the gas prices are too high now
[Verse 2]
I didn't mind all the lies that he's always telling
I didn't mind when he became a convictеd felon
I didn't mind all that weird shit with Elon and DOGE
Didn’t mind when hе lowered tax for rich folks that he knows
I didn’t mind when he tried to steal the election
Didn't mind when he caused an insurrection
I didn’t mind when he cut away our foreign aid
Didn't mind when we paid for his birthday parade
[Chorus]
But I guess the gas prices are too high now
But I guess the gas prices are too high now
[Verse 3]
I didn't mind that he didn't release the files
I didn’t mind that he's protecting pedophiles
Didn't mind when he pressured the Chair of the Fed
I didn't mind when he celebrated Mueller was dead
I didn't mind when he wasted money on all that deporting
I didn't mind when he didn't spend it on stuff more important
I didn't mind the chaotic trade war disaster
I didn't mind when he drove up the deficit faster
[Chorus]
But I guess the gas prices are too high now
But I guess the gas prices are too high now
and just like the bad telemrketing ads... "but wait... there's more!!"
@Ill_made_Knight Trump. Ballroom. Trump. Ignoring courts and cutting down tens of thousands of years' worth of trees. Trump. Building a helipad instead of simply redirecting the exhaust upwards costing hundreds of dollars. Trump. Stupid arch. Trump poison pills in stupid bills that cut in in 2027 to make Democrats look bad...
truly the gift that keeps on giving.
@Ill_made_Knight It never ends.
Trump. Pardoning the people who attacked the Capitol. Trump. Pardoning convicted fraudsters so their victims don't get their money back. Trump. Pardoning a convicted drug dealer who was president of a South American country. Trump. Giving asylum only to white South Africans. Trump. Giving sanctuary to the son of a convicted president who was intending to release him if he won with the help of illegal US funding.
It's actually a LOT like a Batman movie in which all the supervillains are released simultaneously. I think there's a video hame!
@Ill_made_Knight Damnit! How could I have forgotten the Epstein files? Trump. Hiding them. Trump. Pretending the perpetrators are victims and should be protected. Trump. Having the DoJ try to indict people for no crime at all or throwing a sandwich. Trump. Using the process as a punishment for anything he doesn't like.
That's the thing with all this... remeber when Steve Bannon said they were gonna flood the zone with bullshit waaaay back before the first term? Honestly I didn't think of the files either. Absolutely crazy how much terrible stuff they've done.
Thanks @CaptainObivous!
He lost young men heavily, and here in Texas the hispanic community which voted for him at a higher rate in 24 then returned to the norms and then some based on a combination of affordability and the hateful manner in which ICE has been used. I have personally driven members of a touring Tejano band around to avoid visiblity at times. The news hasn't always shown just how bad things are at times. The border counties all swung blue.
Young men also are worried about his war with Iran and rumors that there could be a draft.
The war of course has been disastrous for the price of everything because of the explosion of diesel prices.
There is a general feeling that tRump himself is tone deaf and doesn't care about Americans because of his obsession with his gold oval office, arch, and ballroom while everyone struggles.
Data centers are also a sore spot, and that's true here in Texas maybe more than anywhere else as Abbott and Musk had been ramming them down peoples throats over community objections, which also hi-lighted the billion $ plus in Texan tax dollars paid to Musk to keep him doing business here by Abbott while Musk uses public beaches to launch his exploding rockets.
There are boatloads of reasons as you well know. Throw in the fact that R's have been so blatant and upfront about doing things such as closing down polling places, purging voter rolls, mid-decade redistricting... lots of people claim to be sick of the cheating... perfect storm... R's didn't think anybody was paying attention. To be fair I wasn't so sure either.
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Gas prices, cost of living not really shifting, and no real visable changes that are felt in everyday life. They promised no new forever wars... and we have Iran starting to look like a broken ass promise but that one might be closer to the heart of a right winger than the others.
Those swing voters are going to swing when nothing is getting better for them... and they don't care about the ideological stuff or culture war bullshit online. It's why I sound like a broken record to the left right now... don't repeat the same mistakes. If the right wins again down the line, I'm going to be saying the same thing to them.
To sum up my thoughts... they forgot about the voters that actually might vote either way. They don't sit around watching news or focusing on details... they just know shit is expensive and times are not getting better.
That was just my opinion, but this is a really good question, so I got to ask my AI service about this... The evidence points to several overlapping factors:
- Cost of living: Voters were frustrated with inflation, grocery prices, and gasoline costs. This appears to have been the biggest issue.
- Trump himself: His unpopularity hurt Republican candidates, including in states he comfortably won in 2024.
- The Iran war: The conflict and its economic consequences alienated voters, including some Republicans.
- Corruption and accountability: Many voters wanted Congress to exercise more oversight of the president.
- Candidate quality: Some Trump-backed nominees struggled with questions about their qualifications, character, or independence.
These aren't merely partisan talking points. They're supported by post-election voter surveys from AP and other organizations.
Hmmmm... I guess I wasn't too far off from what clap-trap thinks on some things. lolz
@goaded Okay goaded, I get your point already and the troon has talent. There were points made in that song that did have me thinking..."yeah, I didn't mind" and thinking about it.
This could shoot the other way though too, with the same chorus in a prior time not so long ago. "I didn't mind, the COVID lock downs..." and so on lolz. I'd hate to see the same thing just keep repeating over and over again with just a different 'side' getting a blow-out victory and then making the same mistakes.
Fair enough. It's the whole pendulum thing, where going a long way in one direction sends it back in the other. The covid lockdowns were to protect people, invading South American countries to kidnap left-wing leaders and protecting right-wings leaders from criminal convictions was not.
@goaded Honestly... I just think you really, really hate the right. That blinds you to a lot of the flaws on the left in my opinion. That's just my opinion... don't take it personally. I mean you could probably throw shit about the right like that factoid you threw just now endlessly..."but I didn't mind" part of that song also applies to how you handle the left with kids gloves on. It's both sides bro. It really is. I'm just not a bone collector of every single thing to throw back bone for bone. You remind me of me during the Bush Jr. days.
OK, so what don't I mind about the left? I mind when Democrats act like the right and take money from billionaires. I mind that they ignore the wishes of their constituents. I mind when they rotate the characters who just happen to be the deciding vote that loses a left-wing vote. (To be fair, the Republicans do something similar, but it's allowing people like Susan Collins to vote against them when they know it won't matter and they'll still win.)
Can you name a fraction of this?
Started a war in Iran/cut my Medicaid plan/when they raised my bills/ICE raids and the people that they killed, rampant insider trading/Venezuela invading/took my food stamps away/told Iran to blow up LA, lies that he's always telling/he became a convictеd felon/all that weird shit with Elon and DOGE/lowered tax for rich folks that he knows, he tried to steal the election/he caused an insurrection/he cut away our foreign aid/we paid for his birthday parade, he didn't release the files/he's protecting pedophiles/he pressured the Chair of the Fed/he celebrated Mueller was dead, he wasted money on all that deporting/he didn't spend it on stuff more important/chaotic trade war disaster/he drove up the deficit faster.
@goaded You're right... I do remember you pointed out how they fucked Berny to me not long ago and that was something that really burned me about the Dems... Was about to get my vote that year, but nope... off to the basket of deplorables I went thanks to that.
Can I name a fraction of this? I honestly think I can, I'd just have to do research. I mean lets be real, I could copy and paste that pile of bones you just dropped, and AI could fact check it for me and all I got to do is ask it for examples of similar shit on the left. I can't go bone for bone with you though off the top of my head... and I don't exactly want to find myself trying to fight defence for Republicans either just to prove it to you.
Do you see what I'm saying or you're just out to bash the right with every last breath. I'm trying to identify the bad choices they both mutually have done. I'm old dude, I remember when it was the right trying to keep the illegals and the left was deporting the shit out of them. There is reasons I have this two sides of the same coin mindset about the political class.
Well, that was just taken from the lyrics.
I didn't mind when Clinton created a surplus/when they told Bush "bin Laden determined to attack the US"/when they tried to make health care available for all/when they killed bin Laden/when they told Trump's admin how to manage a pandemic...
I minded when Clinton was handed the nomination over Bernie. I minded that Biden didn't step down like he said he would. But I still think both were better able to do the job with honour and decency than Trump. I know 100% they wouldn't have plundered the country like he has. I minded that Obama deported people to appease the right, but I respected Biden for the approach of asking (paying, probably) Mexico to ship potential immigrants back to their southern border (maintaining their human rights). I minded Obama's assassination of US citizen Anwar al-Awlaki and his son, but Trump and his POTUS say that's totally legal, so I guess that's OK.
You like AI? Sure, try it. I'm sure you didn't try it already and come up short.
@goaded You pulled all that just from the lyrics! lolz Fucking A dude.
I think Trump was a response to something that was already wrong. From those swing voters that is. I think that because of the culture war stuff that ol Hill Dogg started really grinding into... that everyone that doesn't agree is basically sexist, racist, homophobic, Islamifiobic, you name it... remeber that line? Gawd I hate identity politics and it's my biggest beef with the modern left. Now with the right too... Like, imagine how overjoyed I was when Trump announced that such and such jobs were made and the majority just for women. Yeah bro... that's not exactly going to help with the family starting business. lolz.
No, I haven't tried AI yet on you... what you want me to ask it to do? We can run a dry fire run it right now and just see what it shoots out it's ass.
It wasn't hard. genius.com/2krispii-every-conservative-in-america-right-now-lyrics
Did you know that Clinton fired nearly half a million federal employees to make the government more efficient? Probably not, because he tasked Gore with doing it while supporting their transition to private businesses. Then Trump comes in and lets Musk steal citizens' private information and fire the people who maintain the nuclear arsenal.
Maintaining that both sides are the same, or even similar, is untenable.
I remember the "deplorables" line, and it's proven correct. Decent people don't vote to have convicted criminals released en masse, people grabbed off the street or even murdered by masked government agents. Or do you disagree?
uggh... wish I just post screen shots. I asked it for a retort for you... this is it, not me... so don't get mad at me okay? -->
You're arguing that the two parties have different policies. I never said otherwise.
When I say they're two sides of the same coin, I'm talking about the political tribalism, hypocrisy, and double standards. Both parties have supporters who excuse behavior from their own side that they'd condemn from the other.
And your Clinton comparison doesn't change that. Reducing the federal workforce through buyouts and attrition isn't the same as firing half a million people.
As for the "deplorables" argument, you're taking actions you condemn and using them to pass moral judgment on millions of voters. That's exactly the kind of tribalism I'm talking about.
You can criticize Republicans without treating everyone who voted for them as collectively guilty. And you can criticize Democrats without pretending Republicans are innocent.
Recognizing similarities doesn't mean denying differences.
What was your prompt, exactly?
"You're arguing that the two parties have different policies." Wrong. I'm arguing that one party's policies help most people and the other's mostly helps a few, rich, people (If you want to go into details, January 1 next year really starts to cut into Medicare and Medicaid, but I bet Trump will blame Democrats in congress.)
"And your Clinton comparison doesn't change that. Reducing the federal workforce through buyouts and attrition isn't the same as firing half a million people."
OK, but how did it compare to DOGE firing essential workers?
"You can criticize Republicans without treating everyone who voted for them as collectively guilty"
Until this election, perhaps. Arguably 2024, too. They knew who he was.
@goaded Bro, it's trying to trap you with argument shit in my opinion... it doesn't know the song we're refering to-->
You genuinely can't think of a single example of the left overlooking wrongdoing by its own side? Not one?
That's a pretty extraordinary claim. I'm not arguing that both parties have identical records or policies. I'm arguing that partisan double standards exist on both sides.
If your position is that your side is somehow immune to hypocrisy, you're demonstrating the exact tribalism I'm talking about.
And what song are you referring to? I'm discussing political behavior, not song lyrics.
"You genuinely can't think of a single example of the left overlooking wrongdoing by its own side? Not one?" Cute. I already gave several. Go back and look.
Oh, and by the way, "troon" is an offensive term. one might almost say "deplorable". What was wrong with "singer", or "artist"?
What about asking it for specific examples?
Mishandling of the Epstein files, transition from America first to Israel first, highly unpopular Iran conflict that increased prices at the pump, inflation and how extremely aggressive ice has been. Democrats shouldn't get too comfortable over midterm results, as some of the results were more about being anti-Trump then about being pro-Democrat, I have some family/friends who fall under this category, normally don't vote democrat but did during the midterms due to their dislike for Trump.
True... some have called it a red indertow rather than a blue tsunami. Lots of work for D's to do
*undertow*
Just possibly, this had something to do with it... oh, the Epstein files, where of course being mentioned nearly half a million times obviously means you know nothing, did nothing, and have no idea why you're even in them, right?
Forget that this is Kimmel compiling the video's, magats. The point remains, it's accurate. You can find similar accounts even on Fox Entertainment Network.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/rCxknkEovLA
I think the big issue for many people was all this mess with Iran. I honestly think if it had wrapped up quickly, things would be different right now. The fallout is causing hardship for people in their everyday lives, and that's just a bridge too far. The constant proclamations that it's over when it isn't has just made it all worse.
Unapproved war
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economy fears
Abuses of the internal order.
there's a long list unfortunately...
ICE, Iran, cost of living skyrocketing, Epstein files, Israel, cuts to a bunch of social programs, disillusionement, incompetence, AI
Delete it... I'll wait
White supremacy, fealty to Trump, policies favouring the rich. Shall I continue?
A lot to name. But I think the last straw was the war
Iran
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