If groin shots were allowed in fighting sports, what would happen?
What would happen if groin shots were allowed?
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If you mean in guy vs girl fights, then guys would still have the overall physical advantage with their height, reach, size and strength etc, but girls would have the one major advantage of striking to the groin, which would of course be an instant win for the girl 🙋🏼♀️ and a devastating loss for the guy 😂 so while I think that guys would still have the overall advantage, many girls would win these fights with their hardest possible kick to the groin - and that would make such fights much more fair, balanced and competitive.
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I've definitely experienced that myself in a friendly no-rules match with a friend of mine. Despite her being smaller and weaker than I, things didn't go quite my way.
It went pretty quickly, she's smaller and weaker than I am, and though I've never had any wrestling training, friendly matches before had taught me enough to pin her quickly. As I straddled her stomach and she stopped fighting, I was satisfied with my win. I looked down at her and told her she was free to tap. But then she did something I wasn't really ready for.
She smiled back up at me and said, “Yeah, for you ” And I suddenly felt her fingers wrap tightly around my balls. All I had on was a thin pair of swim shorts, so you can imagine how easily and firmly she locked them in her grip. My eyes widened and I made what I still feel was a valiant effort to hold out, but as she slowly closed her hand tighter and tighter around my testicles, my resolve and chances of winning grew ever smaller until they disappeared, crushed in her grip. I ended that match not by winning but by begging for mercy.
She found the sudden flip utterly hilarious, and when I did give in, she loosened her grip, but kept firm hold of them to yank me off of her and pull me to my feet by the balls, then give me a hug, nads still in hand, before finally dropping them.
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Haha oh it was real good for her. She thought it was hilarious. She'd look for every opportunity to flick or swat at them after that to remind me. It was pretty emasculating for her to literally take me by the balls like that and make me beg.
Haha you're even more ruthless and enthusiastic than she is. That sounds like torture. I was already begging for mercy lol. I've got a pretty high pain tolerance though. I bet I could take it.
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Yes, girls could find it difficult - especially if the guy is being extra cautious 🤷🏼♀️ but his natural stance will require him to open up his legs for good balance, and when he’s facing the girl or performing his own moves he will open up his legs even more and leave his groin vulnerable to her kicks! 🙋🏼♀️ So in the heat of the match and all the constant movement, opportunities to strike to the groin do often present themselves.
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Well sure, girls would typically 'win' these fights easily if targeting the balls, but then most girls wouldn't do that, because it's a cheap way of 'winning', and they wouldn't want the guilt of causing long term damage to the guy. So I don't think allowing groin shots really changes anything.
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What? 🤷🏼♀️ If strikes to the groin are allowed, girls will go for it - and they will go in hard! Most girls won’t feel any “guilt” either 🤷🏼♀️ they will just kick as hard as they possibly can and actually feel empowered and likely find it pretty damn funny too! 😂 Girls don’t care about the guys balls or any damage caused 🤷🏼♀️ they want to win, and booting a guy’s balls hard is the best way to do that. When guys cannot hide their balls behind a cup and actually have to take responsibility and protect them themselves, girls can and do win a good number of matches with full force groin strikes.
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I don't know if you're just speaking on behalf of other girls or if you're relaying what you've seen, but I stand by my opinion that it's a cheap shot regardless - it's true that guys have too much of an advantage against girls when wearing a cup, but when it's taken away, girls then have too much of an advantage. This is why full contact fighting/sparring just isn't a good idea between those genders; it can't really be made fair.
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@dimplexfan are you suggesting that in a normal street fight, with no special gear, women are stronger than men?
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@Daniel88 It depends on how you define 'stronger'. I would say no, because as I've already said, it's a cheap shot rather than a display of strength. There is nothing 'strong' about using an instant win button. I only see it as a crucial advantage in terms of self defense, and I'm glad that this advantage exists for girls in this context.
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@dimplexfan that's why I said street fight. No rules.
And I believe most women don't see it as a cheap shot. They may be less inclined to hit there for other reasons, but 'honor' isn't one of them. - +1 y
@Daniel88 @Daniel88 I just think that generally speaking, girls and women are less inclined towards aggression, and are more easily intimidated due to the lack of testosterone; it's largely a mindset thing. I think that's often why they find themselves at a disadvantage in a fight, even though they technically have the advantage due to a guy's weak spot, at least when it's unprotected. And so that advantage only really counts for something if a girl is fully in the mindset of taking a guy down.
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There are plenty of other strikes and techniques for the guy to look out for - so the groin kick is hard to defend against because he has to consider all those other things while focusing on his own game too. Guilt for what 🤷🏼♀️ if I’m sparring or in a competitive fight against a guy and he stands facing me with his legs wide open, I’m going to run up and boot his balls just as hard as I possibly can to win 🙋🏼♀️ and all the rolling around crying and screaming out in agony while holding his balls is just funny 😂 it’s hilarious to kick a guy in the balls and put him in agony like that.
I’m speaking on behalf of myself and the many other girls I have trained with both now and in the past. It’s not a “cheap shot” - it’s a girl vs guy fight where strikes are allowed anywhere on the body, including to the groin and chest areas, so it’s fair 🤷🏼♀️ and guys have the size, strength, height and reach advantages, so girls targeting the unprotected groin is just a leveller for all those things! 🤷🏼♀️ Guys still have the advantage anyway - it just gives us girls a good fighting chance - it’s an even fight that no one wears any protection anywhere. Well full contact sparring and fighting between the genders works great at my club - the win rate is fairly even because guys can play to their strengths and we girls play to ours 🤷🏼♀️ and that’s why full contact kicking to the groin is allowed and something I use often to win many of my sparring matches. - +1 y
You get a frightening amount of joy out of flattening a guy's ego and masculinity along with his balls 😬😂 it's a bit terrifying. I'm sure you enjoy the pure feminine power and authority it gives you over men to be able to so easily use their manhood to disable them and render them helpless.
Do you prefer kicking? Or other methods, like kneeing, squeezing, etc? - +1 y
Well it is by far the most empowering way to win a fight against a guy 🙋🏼♀️ and yes, winning in that way brings great pleasure and joy - it’s so funny! 😂 I use a full force run-up kick wherever I can, although I will use a hard knee in close quarters given the opportunity. Stand-up sparring does not allow for grabbing and squeezing the guy’s testicles 😂 I would have to do the wrestling class here for that to be allowed - in which case I would of course use that technique wherever I could to win! 🙋🏼♀️
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It is certainly the most debilitating, emasculating way to be beaten as a man. Especially when it's by a smaller, attractive woman who easily and expertly uses your manhood to put you in agony.
I'm sure it's an absolute pleasure for you as a woman 😂
That definitely makes sense. I find squeezing to be the most emasculating and personal, but all of those are more than effective at making any man regret being born with testicles lol.
Would you DM me? I don't have the XP to message you, but I'd love to ask you more questions. - +1 y
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So you really do think women are stronger than men, in the context of a street fight with no special protection. Ok, interesting. Ridiculous, but interesting. - +1 y
To the best if my knowledge, the only type of marital art where groin kick is allowed is Krav Maga, and even there in just dojos it's not allowed in sparring. And the only reason it's allowed in Krav Maga is because it's not a competitive sport, it's designed to be purely practical.
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I have read that Combat Sambo allows it and old style Muay Thai (pre-1980s) allows it too 🤷🏼♀️ and the kickboxing I do is partly based on old-style Muay Thai anyway - so our stand-up sparring and wrestling classes in girl vs guy matches allows the groin to be targeted. I think it just depends on the club rules really 🤷🏼♀️ I understand in regional and national competitions the rules do not allow for these kind of attacks though.
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At my club we believe that wearing cups hinders learning how to properly defend your groin area - because instead of learning to protect your groin through necessity, a cup protects your groin for you and the threat is not that real and severe 🤷🏼♀️ where in a real life fight situations that would not be the case - so not wearing a cup in sparring and competitive fights means that you learn better how to defend your groin area in real life! 👍 I hope that makes sense, but I understand these kind of rules are quite rare, yes.
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@cassie_94 I have a question for you. After going up against the same guys a few times at your club, have you noticed that some of them are naturally more vulnerable down there, independent of skill? I'm asking because guys that have bigger "guys" tend to have a much harder time keeping them out of harm's way. And that's just accidents, so I have to imagine it's an even bigger problem for them n a situation where that area is treated as a legal target.
Is it something that you noticed or take into account when going into a match, or does it not really matter much? - +1 y
Some guys are way better at protecting their groin area than others, yes. It is mostly dependant on their skill or grading level, their fitness level and their ability to maintain their focus and concentration - so a number of factors really! 🤷🏼♀️ Maybe a bigger ‘bulge’ down there is an easier target, yes 😂 but in truth that doesn’t matter too much because a guy only has to open up his legs for a moment allowing me to move in and deliver a brutally hard kick straight up into his balls regardless of their size 🤷🏼♀️ so while their ‘size’ can present a bigger target, it doesn’t affect my ability to deliver a winning kick right between a guy’s legs. Of course this only applies if the guy is wearing tight-fitting boxers that put a guy on ‘display’ like that 😂 but even with more loose boxers, I know exactly how and where to target my kicks anyway! 🤷🏼♀️ I hope I explained that well.
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Well, that makes sense as far as a direct hit goes. Although I would have thought that bigger would mean more susceptible to glancing or partially blocked strikes. They just stick out more and don't "move out of the way" as easily. Just talking from experience and what I've heard from other guys, although I've never participated in a club like what you are describing... and tbh I'm not sure I would want to!
Do guys ever take it personally and try to retaliate against you in kind? I would think that could be an issue. - +1 y
How many men at your gym agree to spar with legal groin strikes? And how does that compare to the number of guys who don’t want to agree to groin strikes being legal?
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Occasionally my kicks can be partially blocked if the guy is quick enough to react, or I may only land a partial strike if the guy tries to move out of the way 🤷🏼♀️ so I guess on those occasions the bigger and more lower hanging his balls, the higher chance of my kicks making an impact, yes. Well that’s fair enough - many guys choose not to participate at this club because of the rule on groin strikes and no cups 🤷🏼♀️ and everyone is made aware of it before joining. Oh, many guys have left after taking their first kick 💥🍒 I think they expect girls not to do that, or think they can block it every time 😂 some get annoyed, but they knew the rules and so they cannot complain! 🤷🏼♀️ I respect the bravery of the guys who are willing to put their balls on the line when sparring and competing with girls though.
Well every guy at my club agrees to spar with girls because they are told of the rules when joining and have to sign agreeing to them before participating in the class 🤷🏼♀️ so any that don’t agree either don’t join, or leave after taking their first groin kick. - +1 y
Can you add me? I want to ask you some questions on how the training at your gym works. I don’t have enough XP to DM.
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I think you have to DM me first. Otherwise I still have to wait until XP level 2.
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That's cool to know that the win rate is fairly even, though you in particular also have the advantage of being a blackbelt. Do you ever fight against guys who are anything lower than a fellow blackbelt, and regardless of whether or not you do, wouldn't you say that such a matchup is unfairly in your favor? Being a blackbelt is already a major advantage in addition to having years of practice hitting guys in their weak point.
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Yeah, the win rate in sparring and competitive matches is fairly even - with girl vs guy matches the forbidding of groin protection and allowing of full contact groin strikes works well with the many physical advantages that guys naturally have. Girls do spar and compete with guys of a lower grading rank, yes - maybe these matches favour the girl, yes 🤷🏼♀️ but it allows the girls to practice their moves and techniques, and it helps the lower ranked guys to gain some experience of sparring with someone who can offer them advice and tips after the sparring session is finished - so it seems to work quite well. Sometimes the guys have the advantage when they are a foot taller than us, twice our size and are good at protecting their groin area - those times the guys have the advantage, so overall it does even itself out! 🤷🏼♀️ I may be well-practiced in kicking to the groin, yes - but the higher rank I compete against, the harder it is to win with that finishing move, which is why in the really tough fights it’s such a joy to eventually win with a full contact run up kick to the groin.
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I appreciate the insightful replies. I'd like to inquire a little further via DM but I don't have the XP.
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@dimplexfan I have ‘followed’ but cannot message you because of your settings 🤷🏼♀️
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Ah apologies, I think I've corrected that now!
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I am also training in martial arts money years and served in territories units in the army.
I really agree with your attitude about no protection and almost no rolls in full combat fight between man and a woman like in the real life. And it’s also learn the man and the woman to protect the groin much better. - +1 y
@Milaw2005 I like the “Ooof” 😂 but yeah, some sparring matches don’t end very well due the guys 🤷🏼♀️ but respect to the guys who are willing to spar and fight girls under these rules! 👍
@Jhonrembo Any guys who take a full contact run up kick to their unprotected balls is going down in absolute agony - and he won’t be getting up for some time! 😂 Well guys have their height, reach, size and strength advantages - and girls can kick to the guys unprotected balls her absolute hardest possible kick - this is a fair, natural and equal way to fight 🙋🏼♀️ and if the guy agrees to fight under these rules, then who is to argue otherwise! 🤷🏼♀️ And yes, it does teach the competitors to protect their groin better, rather than just relying on a cup which you don’t get in real life fight situations. - +1 y
I hope you don't mind so many questions, I've never heard of club rules like that before and it's a bit fascinating
Obviously it's a very personal area, and when someone goes there in a real fight it's taken really personally and is considered a major escalation. You seem to prefer that target a lot (even beyond the fact that it's the question you are responding to). Is there a psychological aspect when you go for the groin because it's such an intimate area? Or is it just another body part to you during the fight, which happens to be one that is extremely vulnerable that you don't have?
Do guys target the groin often in these matches? I guess there could also be a psychological factor in the other direction, even though it would of course be a less effective attack - +1 y
@deepuniverse I don’t mind the questions - martial arts is my greatest passion, so I could talk about it all day! 😂 Well those kind of rules are rare, but they’re based on traditional (pre-1980s) thai boxing. Anyway, with your question - both observations are true. On one hand the groin is just another part of the body to me, and for a guy the testicles are his most delicate and sensitive area 🤷🏼♀️ so if I can run up and kick them just as hard as I possibly can, then it will assure me the win! 🙋🏼♀️ But I can see the psychological aspect of a girl winning a sparring or competitive fight against a guy by kicking him in the balls - because this is a very brutal attack to his most personal, sensitive and sexual area 😮💨 so for a girl to win in that way is devastating for the guy 😫😭 but a very empowering, funny and hilarious way for a girl to win the fight! 😂 Guys do sometimes target the groin too, but it is way less effective against us girls, so guys more often try to dominate fights with their upper-body strength and power. The use of groin strikes tends to be used mostly by girls against guys because it guarantees the win in the most gloriously devastating way possible! 🙋🏼♀️
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@Milaw2005 Sure 🙋🏼♀️
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I definitely think in martial arts classes of men and women battles without shields should be allowed and one of the reasons is also to allow women to win more battles like in real life. Usually in our martial arts classes the men win even without the defenders in 95% of the cases but when they lose it happens after they get a kick or a punch or a knee to the balls. One funny story was with us a few months ago that one guy was very strong but also a great arrogant was in a fight with one of the strongest girls with us. During the fight he was actually much better and she really had no chance. The only thing that worked in her favor was the arrogance of the guy who after the girl fell from a kick she snatched in the ribs he walked around with a smile to his friends raised his hands and wanted to get applause from them. The girl recovered faster than he expected and as soon as he turned to his friends and raised his hands she got up and gave him a kick from behind strike to the poor balls with his back to her. The kick was very strong which included all the suffering and nerves she had from him. The guy was so surprised and shocked. He fell to the floor straight sighed in pain and screamed my balls my balls grabbed them and started rolling on the floor for a quarter of an hour. Of course the girl won in this case. But it was only because of his arrogance.
What I also noticed during the fight especially when a man was fighting against a woman that almost all the times the man got a kick to the balls was when he tried to make a back kick or a kick in the round it was worth making an impression. What's amazing is that even though everyone sees in us that men lose not by kicking or punching to the abdomen, to the ribs to the back and even to the head but only because they do not keep the balls well enough they still most of the time train to protect other parts of the body. - +1 y
Ok, thanks, that's what I figured.
Obviously you do you, but just want to suggest that if you respect the guys that are willing to do this like you say, don't go out of you way to point it out to them or gloat after winning with a groin strike. I'm sure they try to hide it, but there's no way they get used to the idea of getting beat by a woman that way.
Also I'm sure the practitioners are safe about not putting lower-level guys into full-force matches, because that would be an easy way to cause some serious injuries. Otherwise, have fun! - +1 y
@Jhonrembo Yes, there should be more clubs like the one I train in - it is more reflective of reality and trains both guys and girls better for real life situations. Our win rate here is a little more even - often the girls are a slightly higher rank also 🤷🏼♀️ but at least by allowing groin strikes and forbidding groin guards, the rules are fair and equal to give both competitors a fighting chance. Yes, the arrogant or naive guys are usually the easiest to deliver such a kick to - they think that no girl would ever dare to kick them straight up between their legs! 😂 I have kicked a couple of guys from behind before - while they were getting back to their feet after a knock down 😂 but I take great pleasure from kicking the arrogant, cocky guys 🙋🏼♀️ and that’s easily done sometimes when they are performing a kick or just standing there with their legs wide open! 🤷🏼♀️ Girls here do win with other techniques too, but the run up groin kick is the most popular winning strike for most girls. The wrestling class here does allow groin grabs (I’m considering taking this class one day maybe) 🤷🏼♀️ and with that the guys will have massive physical advantages to dominate the women - but if the woman is fast and agile enough technically, and she is able to take both of his balls in her hand and just squeeze them as hard as she possibly can 🍒👋 to make him either tap out or pass out through the pain 😫😭 then the girls can win some of these wrestling matches! 🙋🏼♀️
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@deepuniverse Hey, no worries 🙂 well the club takes our training quite seriously, so I do respect the guys who are willing to fight under these rules - and while I and the other girls do enjoy winning fights with full contact groin strikes and then laugh about it 😂 it is fair that the guys who take these low blows are well looked after and we applaud their bravery! 👏 I know that for a guy to get beat by a woman with a full contact kick to their balls is a devastatingly painful loss, yes. No, you’re right - all the girl vs guy matches are set up so that it is expected to be fair and competitive. Obviously some matches are won quickly, like in normal boxing for example 🤷🏼♀️ but the pairings in sparring and competitive fights are deemed to be fair and reasonable, yes! 🙋🏼♀️ Well if you have any other questions, you only have to ask! 🙂
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First I wanted to ask when I come to England to visit there is an option to practice at your martial arts club or to see the training? I have been training for many years in Krav Maga , wrestling and combined combat and I was also in a terrorist unit in the army that dealt with that as well. Secondly sometimes it feels a little unfair that a man who wrestles with a woman and subdues her almost the whole fight and also controls the fight until one small moment that I saw a lot that happen in training outside our official training time (we are not allowed to catch balls or crotch during wrestling) . The woman somehow manages to find the guy's balls and catch them tight. The guy who is very surprised almost never manages to free himself from the grip on his balls and just moans in pain until he gives up. To me it feels a lot of time a little unfair. Because the guys never try to grab and hurt a woman in the groin even though they can for many reasons including that it is inappropriate and crosses the line of combat training and purity of morals and a kind of inappropriate sexual assault. Despite all this, do you still think that a woman should be allowed to grab man balls while competing in wrestling training?
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@Jhonrembo Well as much as I appreciate the offer, I really don’t feel like I can disclose the location and club that I train at on here - or to someone I don’t really know 🤷🏼♀️ so I might have to say no on that one 😬 but I appreciate the interest. Please understand also that if you did actually “practice” at my martial art club, if we were to spar one another it could actually lead to me running up and kicking you in the balls my absolute brutally hardest 💥🍒 which I feel sure you wouldn’t want! 😂 About the wrestling, well that’s the point really - the guy has dominated the whole match and the girl has no chance, but he has failed to finish her off 🤷🏼♀️ so then she gets the opportunity to finish him off by crushing his testicles in her hand and she takes it, so that seems pretty fair to me! 🤷🏼♀️ Also the guy grabbing the girls groin wouldn’t have much effect on her 🤷🏼♀️ so he has used his physical advantages and failed - and then she has used her physical advantage and won - so good on her I say! 🙋🏼♀️ So yes, I totally agree that girls should be allowed to grab and squeeze a guy’s testicles as hard as she possibly can to win a wrestling match 👍 otherwise she has no chance in competing against him - and by allowing this it is reflective of real life.
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Okay I definitely understand your first reason and certainly not to post the institute and place here. Maybe later we will get to know more. I'm happy if you can give me your email. I can not send personal messages here yet. I am always happy to share opinions about martial arts that I have been practicing for many years with people like you who understand the field and are engaged in it. As for your second reason also my club does not protect the head and the balls or rules regarding the fight and everything is allowed. So it's no different than what I have. What's more, in the army we dealt with more dangerous enemies😉. There is no doubt that getting a strong kick in the balls in this fight is very unpleasant but also kicks to the head or ribs are not the most pleasant in the world. Besides that if I face you I know one thing I think I need to keep my balls extra guarded😂😂😂 because your leg loves them close to you🤣. I would love if you could tell about the biggest victory you had in fight s and how it was. How the guy or girl reacted to your finishing move that ended the fight in a crushing victory.
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Another question at your disposal. Have you had a case in the club where a guy who knew the rules of the club actually has no rules and is allowed to kick the balls. Cried in pain after getting kicked in the balls and yelled at the girl who kicked him that she did it too hard and it was wrong or complained about the girl or guy who kicked him in the balls.
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Cool, that sounds like a pretty cool club you found! I think a lot of people are uncomfortable with this sort of rule set for cultural reasons, even if they don't realize it. But it wasn't that long ago that it would be considered unthinkable to have any sort of guy vs girl combat sport, and these days no one bats an eye. So it's really just what people are used to.
Now I'm really curious what the rules look like for the wrestling matches. If you were really going for "realism", you would also need to allow the face as a target, but then you can't have people clawing at each other's faces obviously, so I'm not sure what the compromise would be.
If it's just something like BJJ but only with groin grabs allowed, I would think that the guy would have basically no chance against a similar skilled opponent. I only have a little experience with grappling sports, but going through a whole match without ever letting the opponent's hands near the groin sounds basically impossible. Especially for a guy who is unfortunate enough to be well-endowed, it would be really easy to get a hold. And I'm sure just about any guy would tap out the instant he felt his opponent's grip. - +1 y
@Jhonrembo It’s good that your club does not allowed protection or groin guards or things like that - by forbidding those things and allowing full contact strikes (including to the groin) it makes the sparring and competing more like real life - it prepares all competitors for real life situations, which is how I feel all martial arts club should be anyway! 🤷🏼♀️ Well that’s actually another one of my arguments for allowing groin strikes - while strikes to other places (head, neck & ribs etc) may be less painful, they can actually be more dangerous 🤷🏼♀️ so unprotected groin kicks should always be allowed. If you faced me, however, I understand the male instinct is to protect your balls at all costs - but if you opened up your legs to me I would immediately move in and kick my foot straight up into your balls to cause the maximum amount of agony and damage possible 💥🍒 so you better be good at protecting your groin! 😂 Oh, I’ve had a number of ‘big victories’ in sparring and competitive matches. The most brutal and devastating end to fights are when the guy leaves his legs open and I run up and kick my foot straight up into his balls just as hard as I possibly can 💥🍒 that always makes him immediately go “Ooooh!!” 😮💨 and then crash to the mat rolling around crying and screaming out in absolute agony 😫😭 while frantically grasping hold of his balls - it’s such and empowering, dramatic and hilarious way to win a fight against a guy. Well all the guys are told of the rules before they join, and they have to sign in agreement to them - so while no guy has formally complained after taking their first kick to their balls, some have never come back because obviously they either didn’t expect a girl would dare to kick them in the balls (wrong!) 😂 or they underestimated how devastating such a kick would be from a girl 🤷🏼♀️ so no formal complaints, but some seriously brutal kicks to the balls and guys who chose not to come back.
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@deepuniverse I know that some professional female MMA fighters have called out some of the guys before 😂 but it never happened because the rules at that top level just don’t allow it 🤷🏼♀️ but yes, the whole girl vs guy thing and full contact groin strikes without groin guards is all just what you’re used to - and this is so normal for me now. Well I’ve not done the wrestling classes yet (although I have watched a little if it) 👀 but it’s pretty much just like normal wrestling or grappling, but the groin is a legitimate target for grabbing and squeezing - like there are no restrictions on either competitor for that 🤷🏼♀️ so the guy could squeeze my boobs and I can squeeze his balls - sounds funny to say it like that 😂 but when it comes to grabbing and squeezing, nothing is off limits. I think it’s similar with the kickboxing - the allowing of strikes or grabbing and squeezing of the groin helps girls to compensate for the guys other natural physical advantages such as height, reach, size and strength etc. I know the win rate is pretty even for both the kickboxing and the wrestling, and allowing the groin to be targeted plays a big part in that 😁 so it seems to work well for the wrestling too.
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Yesterday I saw something new in wrestling between a man and a woman even though there are rules. The woman locked her legs while fighting over the guy's balls and just squeezed them until the guy cried in pain and surrendered. It was something new I had never seen before. In addition I saw a new technique in Japan that teaches the girls there how they release a sequence of deceptive kicks one after the other that make the guy move and open their legs. They kick the thigh to the knee and then immediately go up for a kick of a snip to the eggs and just disassemble the eggs for it. It was amazing to see Breeze speed and professionalism they do it. The guy in general almost managed to move and was already on the floor with insane pains in the balls. He literally shed tears. Just deadly.
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Thanks for being willing to answer so many questions Cassie!
There were forms of classical Greek wrestling that allowed genital grabbing, so maybe that's the closest thing to compare it to. Although those athletes were completely nude even.
It makes sense in terms of preparing you for a real fight. After all, you can't expect a real opponent to ignore a huge weakness just because it's a personal area.
I'm guessing it would be a common situation to have a guy mostly controlling a girl with his strength, but struggling to keep his groin just out of her reach. Meanwhile she's feeling around for the right part to take hold of. And if she does manage to find her target, then it would be up to her if she is willing to give the guy a second or two to realize that he has no choice but to submit, or just start applying pressure right away. Smaller testicles would definitely be a competitive advantage in that situation.
Although for sure the girls would need to be trained before going into that type of match not to just squeeze as hard as they can, even during the heat of the match. Because even a relatively weak girl could permanently destroy a guy's testicle with ease that way if she's not careful.
Would you be willing to go into a match knowing that a guy may try to crush your breasts, or even genitals, to force you to submit? I know a lot of girls wouldn't. - +1 y
@Jhonrembo I’m sorry I missed that victory for the girl 😂 but it just shows how the groin grab/kick really does give us girls a fighting chance in wrestling and stand-up combat that we would have no chance in without it! 🤷🏼♀️ I’ve done that with the kicking before - for me it was lots of upper-body kicks that make the guy focus more on his upper-body, and made him open up his legs more because my high kicks were knocking him off balance - and then when he totally wasn’t expecting it, I could move in quickly and kick my foot straight up into his balls to win! 💥🍒 It is so satisfying to deceive and manipulate a guy like that to make him open up his legs. Oh, I’ve seen and caused plenty of crying, screaming and rolling around in absolute agony through run up groin kicks 💥🍒 it’s so funny to win that way, and see it happen right in front of you! 🙋🏼♀️
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@deepuniverse Oh, it’s fine 🙋🏼♀️ well that ancient wrestling you describe and traditional Thai boxing seem to reflect the wrestling and kickboxing classes we have at this club well, yes - these kind of rules are just not as common anymore, which is a shame! 🤷🏼♀️ Sparring and wrestling completely nude sounds fun though! 😂 Yes, allowing groin strikes and grabs does allow girls to spar and compete with guys and is more reflective of a real life situation - it really balances out the girl vs guy matches. When I get an opportunity to knee or kick to the groin, or if I had an opportunity to grab and squeeze the groin, I go in just as hard as I possibly can every single time 🙋🏼♀️ so I don’t give the guy an opportunity to submit first. Well although girls don’t often spar or wrestle with guys until they have had at least some level of training, we do knee, kick and squeeze pretty much as hard as we want to - often with devastating outcomes! 😂 In answer to your question - well when I spar with a guy, I am risking full contact strikes to my groin and boobs, but of course I can run up and kick the guy straight up into his unprotected groin just as hard as I possibly can 💥🍒 so in a wrestling match I would totally accept the risk of having a guy grab and squeeze my groin or boobs if it meant I could grab and squeeze his testicles, just as hard as I possibly can, to win the match, yes! 🙋🏼♀️
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I did some research because in most places that teach martial arts in the western world Europe and the United States the places that are allowed to teach without protectors for the balls for the head and teeth are very few. And in competition there is for the most part a ban on kicking in the groin. In addition there is of course almost no practice of types of kicks punches catches in the balls because it is also forbidden in the fights. Likewise men also protect the balls much less well and focus only on the head because it is forbidden to kick there. Not to mention the practice of greater absorption capacity for kicking and punching the balls that are not practiced at all as is practiced in many places in the East such as: Japan, China, Korea and Thailand. In Eastern culture and especially in Japan and Korea there are many institutes that practice without protection or protection only to the heads but not to the balls and even do competition without it or any rules. Some places even encourage the girls to constantly attack the guy's balls should not give him any chance to win. They even have a slogan: "It does not take many kicks to win just one kick in the golden balls." The mixed fights are also more popular there but mostly until the end of high school and less after. In addition there are certain places in Japan and Korea where the girls actually practice grabbing balls kicks and punches on the men. It was weird watching videos like this but it really does exist. There are places I have seen in Japan that all their fighting strategy for women is based on attacking the man's balls in all shapes and directions and possibilities imaginable.
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I also saw videos of fighters kicking something like twenty-five kicks to the brim to different places without lowering their foot to the floor even once. There was one fight I saw of such a girl who rained on such a guy 8 kicks in a row to different places on the body without lowering a leg. That the last three were quick sniping kicks to the balls so the guy got 3 kicks to the balls in a row without moving at all. The guy fell apart instead of lying on the floor holding his balls crying and not moving. Similarly, men in Japan also practice For getting beaten up in balls in different shapes and with different intensities and their abilities are much higher than men who practice in the West. In the West most men hit not particularly hard on the balls and lower them to the floor straight. My conclusion is that we need to learn a lot from the form of fighting in the East in order to be better warriors and with tougher balls😂😂😂.
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You really use full force even during practice matches?
I know you haven't done the wrestling matches, but just for the sake of argument, imagine that you're in a wrestling match with a guy. He has control of your arms and you are helpless to break his hold but you haven't tapped out. Then, in order to submit you, he reaches between your legs, feels through your athletic clothes for where your clit is, and then presses into it. So hard that you cry out in pain and tap out as fast as you can. How devastating do you think it would be to lose that way?
The reason I'm asking ask is to show you what it's like for a guy whenever you strike or grab his testicles. Except it's so much worse for us, because our most sensitive area is so much bigger, weaker, and more exposed than yours is. We literally carry the fragile internal parts that make us strong and give us our sex drive dangling in a thin pouch between our legs.
So with that in mind, maybe consider going just a little light on guys during practice with groin shots? At least the guys that you spar with regularly and have a mutual respect for? I guarantee they would appreciate it. Plus, it would reduce the chance of a guy getting injured during practice. - +1 y
@Jhonrembo I’m glad you’ve done this research 🙋🏼♀️ and you’re right - throughout the West (Europe and the USA etc) groin strikes are not allowed 🚫 especially at regional and national competition level. But at club level it is based upon individual club rules! 🤷🏼♀️ And yes, throughout many Eastern countries (as you mentioned) there are various martial arts that allow groin strikes and forbid groin protection 🤷🏼♀️ it’s just cultural differences that seem weird and almost impossible here in the West 😂 but I think Japan and Thailand allow groin kicks most commonly - and all these videos you describe I have seen and are practiced at my club where groin attacks are encouraged, yes! 🙋🏼♀️ Ultimately Eastern fighting trains the girls to better target the groin, and guys to better defend the groin - and in the West girls are not trained to strike to the groin, and guys do not learn how to protect their groin as well - and for me this is wrong and bad for both competitors 🤷🏼♀️ because it restricts the learning of this key fighting technique. I’m glad I train at a club that allows full force knees and kicks to the testicles 💥🍒 (and grabbing of the testicles in wrestling) without any groin protection allowed 🚫 it better trains both girls and guys, and it allows us girls to win many fights using full force groin strikes! 🙋🏼♀️ And yes, your video (s) show how effective a groin strike is! 😁
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@deepuniverse Yes, even in sparring practice I use full force kicks when kicking to the groin 💥🍒 it’s so funny 😂 and it’s the best way to guarantee the win! 🙋🏼♀️ About your hypothetical wrestling match - well both competitors take the risk of a devastating loss like that (brutal groin attacks etc) just like with the stand-up sparring 🤷🏼♀️ and a guy’s testicles are so delicate and sensitive that running up and kicking them my absolute brutally hardest 💥🍒 is definitely the funniest and most guaranteed way of assuring the win! 🙋🏼♀️ Well maybe in future I’ll bring my kicks down to 90-95% for sparring practice for the reasons you mentioned (the guy appreciating it, and the reduced likelihood of severe damage) 🤷🏼♀️ but in competition fights I’m going in with my absolute brutally hardest kick every single time to win! 💥🍒🙋🏼♀️
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Well, I don't know that funny is the word I would use... effective, obviously. I wonder how you would feel if you lost to a guy in the way I said, and then he was laughing about it. Especially if he went out of his way to do that often.
I'm sure you're careful about not injuring your opponents though. It probably doesn't seem like you will actually wind up castrating a guy until it happens...
Are guys allowed to wear whatever they want, other than cups or jock straps? Like do guys try to wear layers of thick underwear to give them some padding? Or are they required to wear thing athletic clothes, like in this video?
youtube. com/watch? v=5bVDWEBfTYo - +1 y
@deepuniverse Well it’s definitely effective and I suppose it’s funny to some and not to others 🤷🏼♀️ and to me it is. I suppose I would be pissed 🤨 but I would accept the rules allow it and use his laughing as motivation to improve and do similar to him the next time round! 👊 Well I always kick my absolute brutally hardest 💥🍒 but to my knowledge no permanent damage as yet! 🤷🏼♀️ Guys are not allowed to wear any padding or protection of any kind 🚫 so they normally wear thin material boxer shorts 🩳 something like that.
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More details about your experiences kicking guys there in different situations and settings. How you did it and their reactions. I love your stories you posted here and the descriptions. I am specificaly interested to hear more about the situations of these guys getting hit there in this club of yours where such hits are allowed where it was you or other girls getting them this way. You can post here or we can discuss in private if you like. I have a lot of questions and would love to hear a lot. Has anyone ever caught it on camera?
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@Icedale I’ve only posted those “stories” because I’ve had so many people ask me about this 😂 I have commented some of my own things though. I will follow you then you can ask me all your questions either here or in private - I don’t mind! 🤷🏼♀️ Cameras and phones etc are not allowed during training - it’s not a strict rule, it’s just frowned upon because we’re supposed to be focused on our training (not playing with phones etc), and it can also be distracting to have people recording you 🤷🏼♀️ so that doesn’t happen, no.
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Lol:
Cassie: I would totally crush your balls, no mercy.
Jowm00: Please DM me <3
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... followed by half a dozen other blue accounts begging for DMs lol
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Xper 7 Age: 25 , mho 83%+1 yI think it really depends on the sport. In truly no rules MMA a big man could probably knock a woman out if she wasn’t quick but there is a chance she could win still.
If groin strikes were allowed in wrestling it would be pretty interesting bc it’s a light contact sport I think guys would win most of the time but women have a chance if they land a series of light strikes.51 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI think that women will win in both ways but the girls will get the chance to bust the balls if it was allowed and if a girl kicks my balls while i'm naked, i'll hope that my sperm will come out too to make her interested 🤣 it will be ballsbusting plus sperm lol
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- Anonymous(30-35)+1 y
More fighters would have to do what the Shaolin do and train themselves to have iron groins.
Shaolin monks train to have no weak spots, strengthening their groins and necks. 21 Reply- +1 y
That would be hilarious to watch
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- Xper 1 Age: 31+1 y
Ok, thanks, that's what I figured.
Obviously you do you, but just want to suggest that if you respect the guys that are willing to do this like you say, don't go out of you way to point it out to them or gloat after winning with a groin strike. I'm sure they try to hide it, but there's no way they get used to the idea of getting beat by a woman that way.
Also I'm sure the practitioners are safe about not putting lower-level guys into full-force matches, because that would be an easy way to cause some serious injuries. Otherwise, have fun!00 Reply The men would have won anyway. Women also have great tenderness in the groin and chest. In addition to men who are experienced fighters have the ability to absorb blows to the eggs in some cases. In the vast majority of cases the woman you fall for long before she would get a chance to kick the balls. The man will also protect his eggs much more and take less risks once he knows he is exposed. I'm willing to bet on that.
00 ReplyMost men will wear protective cups anyway to avoid damage. so they'd just continue to wear those.
Most fighting sports are still gender separated anyway22 Reply- New 1 y
@Jowm00 I use the term 'beat' pretty loosely because going for the nuts is an absolute cheap shot, and doesn't really have the merits of a real victory, but sure - it would be a significant advantage for women, at the very least.
You do know it goes both ways, right? Don't think you'd win after a blow to the clit, especially if that blow comes with a man's force behind it.
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Also, A hit to the balls would be a win for the other. Such a badass idea
Like most physical sports, men wear a cup which covers their groin in case of an accidental low blow. If it was allowed, it wouldn't change a thing.
10 Reply- Xper 1 Age: 321 y
As the poll results suggest, women would win the vast majority of the time (I mean, it's kind of a major advantage), but that's only if we assume that there's no cup being worn by the guys; otherwise, it wouldn't change anything.
40 Reply - Anonymous(30-35)+1 y
Allowing groin shots is a huge advantage for women. Balls are the weakest spot in the human body.
40 Reply Women could win. Many decades ago, a man was about to rape me until I kicked him right in the groin.
10 ReplyI mean if they are your gonna see a lot of boobs shots and other illegal things going
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