Is height kind of like breast size?

[TheSpartan]

For men, big breasts are a huge plus, but they are something the vast majority of men don't care at all about if the woman is hot. In fact, you'll find very, very few men turn down a woman with small breasts if she is already attractive. Is height kind of like that for women? That is, do women (besides a small minority) actually care about height if the guy is hot? Would most women actually reject a good-looking, hot guy (forgetting about personality for the moment) if he was 5'7 or 5'8? I find it hard to believe that they would, but what do I know lol

[Anonymous]

Kind of, but no. Actually, just plain no. Height is height.

It's all about averages, and these averages also setup value. So if you consider the average height of US males to be 5'10", that means that MOST guys falling within that ballpark will be found attractive by MOST girls, assuming they are attracted. That is, his height won't be an issue for 80% of girls, we'll say.

Now, the "sweet spot" is at 6'2" or 6'3". That's where like 90-95% of girls will find that guy attractive. This guy will have no issues with his height so if he has everything else in order and a girl finds him attractive, he has the broadest choices. Anything taller than this range and it doesn't really add anything, and might take "points" away. So you start going down the bell curve after 6'3".

So with most guys falling within at least the 5'10"-ish range, any dude shorter than that obviously stands to have more issues with girls as a result of his height. It's not a pointless existence for shorter guys, but they can reasonably expect to not have that 80% 'rate' that the average height guys at least have. There will still be girls that will date them and won't have a problem with their height. But again, they obviously won't be attracting everyone with their height. That's just reality. They sit at, let's say, a 60% 'rate of choice'.

So yeah, there it is. Don't say these numbers too literally, because I gave them just to illustrate what I'm trying to say. Height is height, like I mentioned before. But if I had to make a comparison between it and what you posted here, boobs aren't just about size but shape. So considering the likelihood that a girl has large breasts AS WELL AS nicely shaped ones, obviously she's going to have more value when it comes to physical appeal. But large, shapely boobs aren't a requirement for most guys and don't make the girl "less than".

[TheSpartan]

Yeah... no. I'm don't plan on being as attractive as average height men; I plan on crushing my dating competition and being more physically attractive than 6'0-6'3 men at my height of 5'7.

[Opinion Owner]

Plan all you want, you can't control everyone you'll run into lol

Confidence is good, but you can't change everything. The world would be a very different place if you could.

[TheSpartan]

Then I'll just grow taller. I've been planning and saving for about a year now to get a surgery over in Europe with Dr. Jean-Marc Guichet (a world-famous orthopedic surgeon) to grow about 3-3.5 inches taller. If I'm not satisfied with being about 5'10 at that point, I'll get another to be about 6'0-6'1. I can always recover from the surgeries to pursue powerlifting again, and probably even come back stronger, but I got to do what I've got to do. I will not be second place to some tall guy.

[Opinion Owner]

Oh man, you just went to that crazy level lol

You're going to risk your health and the entire mechanics of your body to try and bury this insecurity of yours. Have you never stopped to consider that your attitude is going to be your worst enemy no matter what drastic measures you take?

[TheSpartan]

My mechanics were fucked up when my leg growth was stunted by too much testosterone during puberty. My torso and arms are abnormally long for my height. I was supposed to be about 6'1-6'3 according to my growth charts and my parents' heights, but my growth plates suddenly closed when I was 12-years-old, so I missed out on my teenage growth spurt.

When it comes to killing myself or getting surgery to grow taller, I'm going to pick surgery every time. Also, there are no long term effects from the surgery.

[KenM9215]

not that this answers your question, but I'm 5'7 1/2" so I'm interested in hearing the answers here lol. I don't mind huge breast myself but honestly, I've never been with a girl bigger than a B cup. I mean sure they are a plus but to me they aren't everything. I'd rather have a girl with a great personality, is loving and willing to put as much in the relationship as I am.

[KenM9215]

I will say in my experience, the girls I've talked to and dated have only wanted a guy who was taller than them. never shorter. so if you were an inch or so taller, they were perfectly content. The comment by bubbletrouble strikes me as surprising to be honest.

[TheSpartan]

Thats what I mean about breast size. It's something I really wouldn't care about too much in a woman, although big breasts are a plus.

And, yes, I'm hoping Bubble's comment doesn't represent the majority of women. It's going to cost a lot of money for me to grow taller, otherwise.

[KenM9215]

It would be a dangerous procedure to try and make yourself taller surgically. I just accept the way I am and roll with it. usually I try to date girls who are around my height or shorter. nothing wrong with being around our height, you just have to be confident and own it!

[TheSpartan]

Id rather be dead than my height. I fucking hate my height so fucking much. I feel trapped in a height I hate; I sometimes want to just stab someone to death because i hate my height so much. I want to scream!

I could care less about the "dangers". I would basically do anything to be 6'0+, so risks are irrelevant to me.

[KenM9215]

you are very angry about your height... has it I don't know wronged you in the past? like has it kept you from getting a girlfriend or such?

[TheSpartan]

Partially, yes. I can't tell you how much I want to beat a woman's skull in when she says "I'm too short for her". I want to beat her until my fist is drenched in blood and brain matter. Powerlifting can only do so much to get rid of aggression. My height was supposed to be about 6'1-6'2 according to my growth charts, but too much testosterone closed up my fucking growth plates when I was 12-damn-years-old. I mean, fuck. I never even had a teenage growth spurt. I'm basically the height I was before entering puberty.

[KenM9215]

I mean no offense when saying this but being that violent towards this is worrying. I mean sure some women can be picky but you can't blame women for having certain criteria. I mean thats based on society as much as it is in biology. I also mean no offense by saying this either but you sound like you have insecurities (obviously about your height). I... well I mean I don't feel its healthy to be THIS upset and violent over this.

[TheSpartan]

Of course it isn't healthy. That's why I'm not out there on the streets stabbing and raping women like Jack the Ripper. That is why I want to get leg lengthening--so my life can actually begin, already, and so I don't go insane and become a spree killer.

[Anonymous]

I think it really depends on the person. For example, I'm 5ft so to me height doesn't really matter unless they're really tall. And I guess it's the same for tall girls? Also, I think height does change the way a person looks completely. If they were hot and super short then I think that would affect how hot they are. Also, breast size is a completely different statement because they're sexualised and height isn't

[KenM9215]

height might not be sexualized as breast size is but it is a quality women size up in finding a guy attractive so I'd say it counts in this comparison.

[TheSpartan]

Height doesn't change how someone looks at all. If you were to copy and paste a picture into Microsoft word, expanding or shrinking it wouldn't change how the picture looks. The picture would look the same.

Sometimes I just want to slaughter all women that hate short men. I'm just overcome with rage and want to go on a Mongol-scale warpath. I feel fucking trapped in a body I hate because of my height.

[Opinion Owner]

I love short guys because I'm very short myself. Sometimes I feel like tall guys wouldn't go for me because I look like a child

[Opinion Owner]

Also, say if chris hemsworth went from 6ft 2 down to 5ft 7, that would certainly change a lot. But look at bruno mars, he's super short and still hot

[TheSpartan]

How would Chris Hemsworth look any different if he fell down to 5'7? He would look smaller; that's it. His overall appearance would be exactly the same.

Bruno Mars is a singer, so I'm not so sure that counts. I doubt women would care for him all that much if he was a good-looking, 5'5 guy walking down the street.

[Opinion Owner]

Yes, but I am answering your question and I think it does affect how hot the guy it is, take my answer haha. Also my PE teacher is 5ft 6 or under and he is so hot. He's almost my height.

[TheSpartan]

But, I'm still glad women like you exist. I'm basically just waiting until I can get surgery to grow taller. I seriously just can't wait until I have the money to afford the surgery--it is going to be amazing,

[TheSpartan]

Well, can a 5'6-5'7 guy be hotter than a decent-looking, muscular tall guy?

[TheSpartan]

I'm sorry, but maybe you didn't see my last question I asked. It's in the comment right above this one.

[been_waiting]

I'm iffy on the comparison but to answer your question, most women do not care as much as you might think. I don't know a single girl who would turn down an attractive guy that she likes bc he was 5'8" instead of 6'1". Unless of course she herself was taller than 5'8", but even then I've met girls who will date shorter guys

[TheSpartan]

Thank you so much.

[CHARismatic110]

Height is not a big issue with me. Like you don't need to be 6 feet tall to get my attention.

[TheSpartan]

Thank you.

[MoshingExec]

I beg to differ. A lot of guys, including myself, are not into huge breasts. I'd MUCH rather have a girl with average to smaller breasts then huge ones.

[TheSpartan]

This is true, although I'd stay this is a minority of men. For most men, I'd say beast size does matter to an extent. For this question, I'm dealing with majorities and generalities.

[hxcpr0n]

I would say height is even more important. Ever inch under 6'2 is like 10lbs on a woman's ideal weight. So a 5'7 man is equivalent to an really fat girl who is 70lbs overweight

[TheSpartan]

I'd say every inch below 5'10-5'11 is like 10 lbs.

[bthomas89]

Yes i guess u could say that. I love love tall men. If a man is short its like i don't take him seriously

[zorro8888]

I'm not your downvote but by your logic any girl with small breast, I shouldn't take seriously?

[TheSpartan]

So... women with small breasts aren't to be taken seriously?

[bthomas89]

If thats your opinion then ya. Just like this is my opinion. I would never say that to a short man but im entitled to my own opinion

[TheSpartan]

I'm fine with women with small breats. You, apparently, are bigoted towards men whom don't meet your random height standard.

[bthomas89]

I agree with u i am.

[TheSpartan]

Lol now I know you're trolling. You had me fooled for a while

[bthomas89]

So im trolling because i don't like short men. Oh ok.

[TheSpartan]

Everything you said sounded like satire, so I assummed you were just trolling.

[bthomas89]

Nope not trolling. Im serious i don't like short men. But i have friends who love short men and date nothing but short men so to each his own.

[Ciaobellax]

I dont really care as long as the guy is taller than me and im only 5'3 so not really a big issue.. i could overlook it if i really liked the guy

[linkywinky]

5'7 and 5'8 are still significantly taller than me so it wouldn't bother me.

[StickStickity13]

Women are usually more picky and have more deal breaker than men. Welcome to real-life.

[TheSpartan]

A Bitch iz a Bitch

[bubbletrouble]

No a man's height is like a woman's weight

[TheSpartan]

Woah... that is a huge claim. So, a short man is like a fat woman?

[bubbletrouble]

In my opinion, yes

[TheSpartan]

Then, what can a short man, 5'6-5'7, do to make up for his height?

[bubbletrouble]

Confidence, money, status

[KenM9215]

yep but if a guy taller than you has those things, you and I are screwed. (studies show women will go for a taller man if presented the opportunity).

[KenM9215]

to be fair she did say it was her opinion.

[bubbletrouble]

that's what I am saying, women will pick the taller guy and men will pick the skinnier woman BUT many short guys can still get girlfriends because they have confidence, ambition, money, power. If a woman is fat, she has to lose weight. She's not getting a date. @KenM9215

[TheSpartan]

This is completely ignoring confidence, money, and status. I'm talking about physical attractiveness. How does a man who is 5'7 become MORE (capitalization is for emphasis, not yelling) physically attractive than a 6'0+ man? If I can guess your answer, my last resort is painful, but apparently totally worthwhile, surgery.

[bubbletrouble]

physical appearance only, nothing. But he could use other stuff. I knew of a short dude that was able to get a girlfriend in high school because he was a hockey player (status) and was bit of an asshole.

[TheSpartan]

Well, I care about physical appearance. I will not be fucking less good-looking than a taller man, even if it means breaking my legs in some foreign country and spending months of rehabilitation to grow taller. Ever since I was a little boy, I wanted to be the guy women dreamed and fantasized about. I wanted to be the guy women considered as close to their ideal as possible. I can't give up on the dream; I'd rather put 44 magnum shell through my skull.

[TheSpartan]

Really? No comment?

[bubbletrouble]

Whats there to comment? I understand what you were saying but that's not the case in life. Women place way more value on power and wealth than looks.