Do women intentionally make men incels? Stephen Hawking said “Women. They are a complete mystery”?

[Daniel3035]

If one of the best scientists can figure out quantum physics but not women doesn’t that clearly suggest women are not natural but random and you can only do so by discrimination or achieving that aim intentionally nobody is naturally prone to rejection.

[Anonymous]

disagree. what he said doesn't mean anything. you don't know if he really thought about understanding women, was even interested in the subject, doesn't mean he's right, you don't know the context or why he said that.

anyway we don't intentionally create incels. wtf would I want that. I don't want a self loathing virgin who thinks 24/7 about looksmaxing, the red pill and how shit women are. that's the opposite of attractive.

anyway the reason why there's incels to me a "femoid" (as they like to say) is because of these reasons:

-the above average effect. you can research it. in a nutshell it means that most people, even very ugly people, genuinly think that they're 6-7s. so what do you think happens if let's ay a 4 approaches a 7. the 7 is like no because he's unattractive and the guy doesn't understand why. repeat that a few times, he starts to believe women have very high standards (when they don't). he then decides to either lower his standards or not. if he does, he's going to try with a 6. same thing happens. he tries a 5 same thing happens. he may be desperate enough to go below a 5, and it's still no often. so he's like women have ridiculous standards. may start to doubt his attractiveness too and will blame that on not looking masculine enough aka attractive.

-an obsession with sex and dating

-not having really know females personally aside from their mom usually (easy to stereotype and misunderstand if you never had female friends, dated or had sisters)

-being a bit sexist to start with

-bad experiences with females as a teen

[Daniel3035]

I know I’ve had bad experiences as a teen the day after she said no (which is fine) but tje next day came half naked pics with another guy on Facebook to spite me the whole school hated her for it never saw her again.

I agree and disagree. Partly because he had a wife he said that after the divorce so he has experience on both sides.
The other thing is it’s an unambiguous statement while we don’t know what he thought it’s pretty specific.
Ill check out that research tho sounds interesting the 7 person rejecting a 4 is sensible but my concern is before the girl even knows that person is a number 4.

[MzAsh]

Few men can understand women. I’ve only met 2 in my whole life.

[I-am-a-nobody]

The problem is the belief that men and women are exactly the same.
~that a man is just a woman with a penis and a woman is just a man with a vagina.
Our actual brains are structurally different.
Men who realize a woman's needs are way ahead of men who don't.
Women like security, yet excitement. If you can give them those two things it will change how women see you.

[ImAToaster]

Stephen Hawking had a relationship so they clearly weren't that much of a mystery to him. What he certainly wasn't was an incel and I'm pretty sure he would have been unable to relate to their self pity when he overcame such obstacles to be one of the greatest minds in history.

[Daniel3035]

Precisely and he said it after his divorce. He wasn’t an incel but was alone eventually.

[genericname85]

of course they do. that's what women always did. they are the gatekeepers of sex. men are the ones who as for sex, women are the one that say no to sex. that's how it works.

so if you don't find a woman that wants sex, you're involuntarily celibate. that doesn't mean women are alone at fault when you're not getting laid but they're the one saying no to the sex.

[slatyb]

Not at all. Incels make themselves. They can't attract a partner because they don't like women and it shows. Instead of looking on the mirror and working to make themselves happier and more attractive, they do nothing and blame others.

[Daniel3035]

So is someone who has been hurt and betrayed by women multiple times and avoids/hates them an incel because they don’t want to be hurt again an incel?

[slatyb]

Incel is a self-applied label. If someone has been repeatedly hurt and betrayed by women that’s because either they enabled it or because they had unreasonable expectations and blamed the woman for their disappointment.

[Daniel3035]

Ok so say this woman you ask her out because you like her she says "no" not a problem. But the next day she posts pictures half-naked with a guy she just met on a night out to spite you and ended up being hated by practically all of high school. Is that or how can be the guy's fault or blaming the woman for their disappointment. Is nothing a woman's fault then women are always right.

[slatyb]

So a woman turned you down? BFD. It happens all the time. She posted pictures of herself with another guy. BFD again. That's not about you, it has nothing to do with you. Things strangers do are not about you. You aren't that important. Get some therapy and deal with this paranoia.

[Daniel3035]

I think the only guy who needs therapy is you. LMAO, do you get off this? Do you enjoy trying to lower other boys mental health? What happened in your childhood you feel the need to make other boys go through the same thing?
Now you see it was about me she did those things to specifically attack me mentally she dumped the boy the next day that under law is cyber bullying. Which is what she was convicted for not because of this but the worse things she did which I won't tell you because clearly your delusional and it's none of your business.
I would also like to remind you "good" sir as someone well aware of the law if you were talking to a suicidal person and you were found to be talking in this manner you could be convicted for coercing/worsening the person's mental health resulting in his suicide you may have heard of "Conrad's Law".

[slatyb]

You are the one who asked for advice but you didn't really want help, you just wanted validation. The world isn't going to change for you. You can make an effort and be happier or you can just complain and remain lonely.

[SuccessfulHornDog]

A Little know fact is that some of the government's top-secret laboratories have been trying to crack the mystery about women. So far, nothing. Luckily they discovered some other things in the process, like jet propulsion and space travel.

[Daniel3035]

XD one day theyll crack it.

[wankiam]

seems like a cop out to me... blame them when its your own fault you can't socially interact with people different to yourself

[ecfresh]

No, women intentionally want the opposite of an incel.

[Daniel3035]

What is the opposite exactly?

[ecfresh]

A confident, strong man who understands his value and attracts women based on his passions and authenticity.

[Liam_Hayden]

No. Expertise in one area does not necessarily indicate expertise in another. And from what I've seen most InCels make themselves that way.

[Daniel3035]

What about experience in both areas he was married and divorced he said this after divorce.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

Human are hard to figure out. Not just women.
Incels create themselves.

[Jacked_Jones]

Stephen Hawking is also a mystery because he's a puppet on Strings

[Ghost141414]

Hawking was an Incel himself

[Daniel3035]

He was married...