Do women liking taller men a preference or a requirement?

[Anonymous]

I have seen this so many times that women say well it's just a preference but then they proceed to say I don't wanna date someone shorter than me.

Like that's not preference anymore, it's a requirement, isn't it?

[CrazyGirl2]

Its a preference. If I (or anyone) prefer dating taller guys, then obviously we do not prefer to date shorter guys. (Its basically an if/then logic gate) IF I prefer taller men, THEN clearly, I do NOT prefer dating shorter guys! See? Now, given the majority of women prefer taller men, it would seem there must be an biological evolutionary advantage to “mating” with a taller/bigger man… my guess would be protection. And while none of the reasons exist anymore, our caveman brains still exist in there somewhere, and so what was at one time necessary for survival, is today merely a preference. Here’s another way to think about it… Homosexuality is a sexual preference. That cannot change that sexual preference, and nobody (except religious nutcases who do not believe in science) would ever expect a gay man to date some women every now and then… likewise nobody would try to may gay men feel guilty for NOT dating women (except for the aforementioned religious zealots) yet people don’t seen to have an issue attempting to guilt women into changing their sexual preference for taller men! I personally prefer taller men, but given that I am 5’1” its not all THAT difficult to be taller than I. But it IS my preference.

[Asker]

The cavemen think is debunked already. It's more like cultural than biological.

[CrazyGirl2]

Could you cite you source for me on your factual assertion, because w/o it, its just your opinion, and I disagree! Especially given that every major university has an evolutionary biology department, or works closely with on at a university close by. As for you… well you don’t even have the courage to ask this innocuous question using your actual username! And now you’re acting like a troll. Simply contradicting without citations.

[Asker]

First, I'm askin this on anonymous because I have got hate before. Second, I have asked a biologist about this some days before and she said it. And don't add biological department in it. Tell me a single biological department who has said that. Evolutionary stuff is totally different.

[CrazyGirl2]

You really need to google Evolutionary biology! It really is a thing! And if your biologist friend told you, you shouldn’t have any trouble finding a valid peer reviewed article, that states NON, ZERO of our instincts from pre history are still with us.

[Asker]

I said, evolution is different. Like sex is biological from the beginning of mankind even before we slowly developed from apes and even before that. The reason why men are generally men are taller than women is because women had to say inside home for their children and men did all the hunting. Slowly it developed as normal thing for a man to be taller. But, as I said due to the course of time humans adapt and evolve. Same thing will happen with this and no one can stop it. When the society is getting egalitarian the need of tall man will not exist anymore. So right now, it's not a need, if it was biology then it was needed as sex is. But now it's more like a culture.

[Asker]

*stay

[CrazyGirl2]

Evolutionary biology (EB) would study exactly what you just explained regarding height. EB is not “biology“ that’s just “the study of life“ With EB it’s why did that life evolve to be like that in the first place. Here’s a perfect example, pubic hair! Why’d we lose all of our thick body hair except for on our head and then as secondary sexual characteristics appear, we grow pubic hair? Where a biologist Might say we evolved pubic hair so it could trap pheromones that would attract a mate, we don’t need that before puberty b/c we’re unable to reproduce, why attract a mate. Evolutionary biologists show yes it is for trapping pheromones that tell mates “come and get me boys“! But in“caveman days“ we were filthy, we were unwashed, and we stank! Imagine going your whole life barely if ever bathing? And so these pheromones need to so overpower all the other smells that they need to be concentrated in one place right where they were needed. Further, in “caveman days“ most mating would be under circumstances we would consider rape today! Obviously the male secretes pheromones to help the female select a mate but if a bigger stronger “cave man” came along with a bigger stick he would just whack that guy on the head and take the woman himself! Why did he do that? He likely didn't even know. Something just drew him to her, and that something would be pheromones! Biology looks at the function of life, to study how life works. Evolutionary biology fills in the gap‘s. It answers that question “yes, but why?“ That’s all I’m going to say on it because I have never found myself in the position of defending the existence of an entire field of science. Especially not one that is close to 100 years old All you have to do is just Google it! Here’s Harvard’s page on EB: sitn.hms.harvard.edu/.../
And, here is the Wiki entry for evolutionary biology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_biology
If you still don’t believe… I don’t care!

[Asker]

Anyways, I don't consider myself inferior than tall men even though women see it. Goes against my morals. I will read the study. I'm against the societal and not gonna change my stance, it has already ruined and made short men miserable by this.

[Asker]

Societal norms*

[CrazyGirl2]

Yeah, you could call it a societal norm. But there is good science behind it, either way, I’m 5’1, so it doesn't take MUCH to be taller than I. But to me is IS a preference, I just prefer men who are taller than me!

[Asker]

I mean, if I like someone why would I care even when the society doesn't like it. Like I'm living life for myself. If a girl is taller than me I have absolutely no problem with her whatsoever. Me being 5'7 gives me less options anyways cuz most women would not like me due to my height. That's why I don't wanna do the same thing with other women.

[CrazyGirl2]

Honestly? Because if a guy is shorter than me, there is a 92% chance he’s 4’ something, and just for the sake of my future children, I wouldn't want them going through life as short as me… ESPECIALLY if its a boy! Thats just a recipe for teasing, lowered self esteem, depression, anxiety… no my ideal mate is 6’1 I wouldn’t want much taller than that but my ex boyfriend was 5’7” so it not liking I ONLY day “tall” guys

[Asker]

There's no way your kid is gonna be tall even if your boyfriend is tall. My father is tall but married my mother who is 4'11 and see where I am. It's better to reject the thought of being short as inferior.

[CrazyGirl2]

I don’t know “where you are” you are anon… unless we already spoken about Robert Reich?

[Asker]

What

[CrazyGirl2]

Well then I guess we didn't, talk about him! But you commented that I knew your height, when clearly I do not.

[Asker]

I don't know what you are saying

[CrazyGirl2]

It doesn't matter. It is unimportant , it was most DEFINITELY not worth 4 messages back and fourth

[CrazyGirl2]

The point is, ALL you have done is focus on how YOU FEEL that women think you are “inferior” to taller men! Regardless of what women say! You’ve completely ignored the fact that I CLEARLY told you that my ex-boyfriend is the EXACT SAME HEIGHT as YOU! So if Lee could impress a woman enough as a human being that I would want to share my life with him in spite of him not being as tall as I preferred, clearly shows that you can too! Maybe if you stopped whining about the fact that not all woman are attracted to you, and focused on those who are actually showing an interest in you, you might just find women who ARE attracted to you! I’ve never met you, I don’t know anything about you, yet despite the fact that you are the SAME HEIGHT as my ex boyfriend, I would’nt date you! And it has absolutely nothing to do with your height… it’s because you act like you have a mile wide chip on your shoulder! Trust me that has WAAAY more to do with your inability to date anyone, than your height ever has! Do you realize that NOT ONCE, have you ever even acknowledged that maybe the problem is YOU? The amt of arrogance you’re displaying in assuming that women need to change so they will date you, rather than just having the humility to admit that maybe it is your attitude that is turning women off is just astounding! Go ahead, deny the existence of entire fields of science… you are STILL not entitled to any woman's affection nor are you entitled to her body! Once you’ve made an effort to fix you, I think the issue will resolve itself… it’s like magic!

[Asker]

Imagine being 5'1 and still preferring a guy taller than 5'7. Hypergamy is going crazy.

[CrazyGirl2]

Again, avoiding acknowledging ANYTHING I wrote! I know exactly the type of guy you are. You just HAVE to be right, even if that means ignoring everything the other person says, and just hammering home your OWN points even when they don’t make sense within the context of the conversation! You are just a troll! It doesn’t matter what anyone says, you’ll find a way to disagree with them! By the way, HEIGHT is neither a superior social background, nor is height a superior educational background, so you using words like Hypergamy incorrectly… Probably another reason you can’t get anyone to date you, because regardless of height, no woman wants to date a stupid man… it’s not as bad as your soul-crushing arrogance, but it certainly is another “Jenga block” on the pile of shit that is your personality! Enjoy the life you’ve created for yourself. Goodbye 👋🏼

[Asker]

You think height doesn't matter, really? Go ask them, most of them will say 6ft tall. Open dating apps, you will see 'if you're under 6ft you should be dead', 'what you call a guy under 6ft, a friend'. And I'm not making this thing up. This has been proven. Like why would I lie? You're a short girl so you're nowhere close to us short guys in terms of who get harassed more. You don't know the situation cuz you're a girl. Everyone thinks a guy needs to be masculine and what not, and obviously to them short guys are not masculine. We're just tired proving everyone that we're worth something but nope, no one cares. Height is basically a social caste system. If you're born short as a guy, you'll be seen as loser especially girls.

[CrazyGirl2]

“Everyone thinks a guy needs to be masculine and what not, and obviously to them short guys are not masculine.” SERIOUSLY? In 2022 when all a female needs to do is SAY she identifies as a man, and she IS a man… I suppose that’s because our society is obsessed with making sure men are more masculine?
In 2022 As we are putting tampon dispensers in mens and boys bathrooms, that’s happening because our society is obsessed with men being MORE masculine? That’s REALLY your position?
In 2022 When the girl scouts are allowing boys who SAY they identify as girls, to go to camp, share bathrooms, and shower with girls because society is obsessed with men being MORE masculine?
In 2022 GQ (Gentleman’s Quarterly) Magazine, has articles on “The Best Makeup For Men” including statements like: “ Concealer is where most men start their makeup journey.” because CLEARLY our society puts a premium on men being MORE MASCULINE? (Especially when they recommended a fabulous compact “for dudes”), touting it as a “bronzer” because everyone knows the most MASCULINE men don’t leave the house without taking a quick peek at their compact to make sure their makeup is spot-on flawless! (SOURCE: https://www.gq.com/story/best-makeup-for-men ) Seriously, this is your point? Oh yeah, the evidence is in, society def wants men to be MORE masculine! Especially while wearing dresses and Makeup! Look, I’m done with this question! You are not a nice person, That’s why you can’t find a woman who wants you! You have a chip on your shoulder a mile wide, a napoleon complex, a persecution complex, and you believe that you are ENTITLED to date whatever woman you want, and if she won’t go out w/ you… you just say that she’s a bigot! Lastly, I don’t think you even READ my responses, since you haven’t addressed any of my major points, you just try to insult me, yet pathetically, you don’t even know the definition of your own insults!!

[Asker]

Whatever things you said above are followed by less than 0.0001% people. And you think I'm lying when I say short men are at big disadvantage? Then you're delusional. Secondly there's no thing as napoleon complex, it is just another way to tease short men. Your bias is being shown when you say the word 'napoleon complex'. Cuz there's no such thing. Like when short men talk about themselves it becomes napoleon complex? Like seriously? Go and worship your lovely tall men. Because for you they are the protectors cause obviously you can't protect yourself and then talk about egalitarian society lol. What kind of egalitarian society is this?

[Clairvear69]

Is preference, prefer guy taller BUT if meet nice fun guy and is not tall then is okay. Is like prefer blonde but okay if not.

[Asker]

Ok, that's what I was asking

[Anonymous]

It's a preference but women will defend the nonsense by saying I like what I like? or its guys fault for make me like tall dudes.

[In_Trance]

Both

[LimitedBenefits101]

yes it's a requirement, no such thing as " preference" that's been debunked already.

[Anonymous]

I've always heard girls feel safer with taller men.

[Asker]

Read my question again.

[sheikalana]

It's a personal preference.

[Asker]

Personal preference is different than cultural norms.

[sheikalana]

I guess your definition of preference is a bit different than mind after reading your description for me a preference is when someone prefers a specific thing.

[Asker]

Personal preference is different and this is societal norm. Personal preference is something when everyone person likes different thing. But in height's case almost all women like tall men which makes it not a personal preference anymore. Personal preference would be something like I like some hair color or something. Hair color will have vast different different percentages. Not almost 90% would like blonde or brunette. But this case over 90% women like tall men which doesn't make it a personal preference. It has "personal" in it. When everyone is having the same preference it's not personal preference anymore.

[sheikalana]

Is still a preference tho.

[Asker]

Yeah but don't tell it as 'personal' cuz it's the same for everyone.

[LazerBean]

Preference.

[Asker]

So you would date someone shorter than you?

[LazerBean]

If he was otherwise qualified, yeah

[Yucy_Gluttony]

Neither for me!