Generally speaking I would say guys because we have to pay more on dating apps to even get a chance to message a women.
If we suppose that there are two people that found interest in one another to start dating I would say it´s still guys under the conditions that he is paying for all the dates and he is also driving.
If they are splitting bills everytime it could come out pretty equal if not her paying more.
makeup, skincare and clothes cost a lot, but theyre already things we buy even without dating. whereas men usually have to pay for things, or feel obligated to pay even if they dont have to
really depends on the quality of date they go on and the prep work they put into it. many women tend to focus more on their looks and outfits for a date. while many men tend to end up paying for them both during the date itself.
I feel like it depends on who’s making money and where you guys are going. If you want to go somewhere really nice but the guy isn’t paying its more expensive for the girl and visa versa. It also is the case if you and the person who you are dating are poor and are living pay check to paycheck so you would have to save more for a nice date it would be expensive (or cheap) just depending on income and how much you are willing to pay
H and to say. Many times, but not always men pick up the tab, do the driving, pay for parking, but women need an outfit, nails, makeup etc for fancy places. Going to the track, it's cheaper, free parking, a burger or brat, fries, a beer or two, or sodas. For her it's jeans and a t shirt, same as at a tractor pull.
For men. Not even close. All women have to do is show up and not looks horrible. And no, wearing $100 worth of makeup is not necessary. As long as you're clean most men will not complain.
Men have to pay for it all. And have to spend more of gifts. 1 date for a man will probably cost at least €50-100. And as the relationship becomes more established, flowers, jewelry, her cars maintenance, etc cost way more than that.
Tough call men usually pay for more. But women end up spending cash on makeup for how many years if its there thing. I’m positive there’s more of a balance then we realize it’s probably a very deep hidden X factor though.
Women likes to talk about makeup and other of those expensive makeover stuff but at the same time, they say they do it for themselves. Because dating is not the only time they wear those.
And they're not forced to wear make up on dates. Lots of guys would rather like to see who they really are and not get decieved. It's either they just do it for other girls, themselves or they're just insecure. I get that there are guys who would reject a girl because he thinks she dont look without makeup but it's because she dont look good to him not because she isn't wearing makeup.
But if you do it for yourself... even if you had zero dates then you would still do all that. So therefore the date doesn't cost you anything... unless we also consider the man drives you in his $35,000 car therefore he spent $35,000 on the date right?
@bamesjond0069 right.. And what about those of us who actually share the costs of the date? Or had you not considered that it is the asker who pays? Or that some of us actually offer to pay our own way? If you want to whine about how “unfair” it is for men, perhaps it’s the women you choose to date that are the problem.
I dont whine about it. I wouldn't date a girl who paid for a date. Also if i wanted a girl to appear a certain way for my benefit, i would take her shopping for the right clothes... for my benefit. in my opinion women who pay for a date are low quality just as women who demand pay for a date is no more than a prostitute. The high quality women are in the middle of those two mindsets.
@bamejond0069 so the woman who pays for a date is low quality just as the woman who wants a date paid is a prostitute.
That's catch 22, whether you pay for: none, part or all, we're all low quality women. I hope you swing the other way, cause you'll never want any girl with that mindset.
No. A woman who pays is low quality and a woman who demands a man pays is low quality. A high quality woman would not date a bum, nor demand anything from a man. Whatever he pays is him being generous and she should be thankful and its not really her business what he pays nor her concern. Just the fact he is capable to take her on an enjoyable date. The dollars and cents is not something a classy lady should worry about.
I haven't found it absurd. This is how all three serious relationships i had were. I admit its not common but so what? If every man was a drug addict do you just marry a drug addict? Its not really relevant how rare it is, its an absolute necessity and either she's got the right mind set or she should get with a low value man to equal her own low value. Not my concern.
I call low value women low value and i couldnt care less what they think since im out of their league. Not sure why dating my hand is even something id consider since I've pretty much always had a girlfriend and when i haven't (and even when i have) i get tons of low value women throwing themselves at me anyways. So pretty sure my hand will be going to bed lonely like it has forever basically. My gfs got me covered. Thanks for your insincere consern but im good boo.
@bamesjond0069 you do realize that I don’t care, right? I mean calling people “low value” shows more about you than it doesn’t anyone else. So seriously, good luck with everything, I hope you find what you deserve.
No the dude, I mean that's what I'll do anyhow is pay for myself, I do work afterall and I would only go on a date somewhere knowing that I'll want something that needs paying for.
Is say not admitting there is such a thing as low quality is called delusion. Clearly a crack head prostitute would be very low quality? A murderer meth toothless man? I mean seriously. If you can't admit that one would have to be on some serious drugs id imagine.
@bamesjond0069 I’m done discussing this with you. Clearly, we differ in how we approach life, and that’s fine. So goodnight and good luck in all of your future endeavors.
Men because men are always getting conned out of their money in exchange for little to nothing. But a lot of guys have woken up and learned to not give a woman stuff she hasn't earned.
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Good question.
It is not cheap arguably for both genders including transexuals and non binary hermaphrodites.
Beauty alone costs money and sometimes includes pain too.
Another example is a beach date. Think its free? There are costs to the fares and food and sunscreen and whatnot. Only Entry is free if anything is free.
By what I have learned there r 2 types of women. There r women who don't want anything fancy and just want someone to love, nothing extra. Then there r women who want there love to be magical like none have ever seen. So it just matters I guess
It's about even, but it's spent differently. Women spend money on clothes, makeup and shoes... fir them to be " more attractive" when dating, while men spend money on dinners an event tickets.
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Generally speaking I would say guys because we have to pay more on dating apps to even get a chance to message a women.
If we suppose that there are two people that found interest in one another to start dating I would say it´s still guys under the conditions that he is paying for all the dates and he is also driving.
If they are splitting bills everytime it could come out pretty equal if not her paying more.
makeup, skincare and clothes cost a lot, but theyre already things we buy even without dating. whereas men usually have to pay for things, or feel obligated to pay even if they dont have to
really depends on the quality of date they go on and the prep work they put into it. many women tend to focus more on their looks and outfits for a date. while many men tend to end up paying for them both during the date itself.
however there are also men who make a solid effort to look good and dress well for a date.
I feel like it depends on who’s making money and where you guys are going. If you want to go somewhere really nice but the guy isn’t paying its more expensive for the girl and visa versa. It also is the case if you and the person who you are dating are poor and are living pay check to paycheck so you would have to save more for a nice date it would be expensive (or cheap) just depending on income and how much you are willing to pay
H and to say.
Many times, but not always men pick up the tab, do the driving, pay for parking, but women need an outfit, nails, makeup etc for fancy places.
Going to the track, it's cheaper, free parking, a burger or brat, fries, a beer or two, or sodas.
For her it's jeans and a t shirt, same as at a tractor pull.
Women buy the makeup, outfits, plastic surgery, expensive shoes, liposuction.
Men buy the food and the movie tickets.
I think somewhere down they spent equally on and for each other. Bigger the dollar, better the date!
for whoever counts their money over this... is always going to be expensive
Depends on the individual, dates don’t have to cost anything… some of the best dates I’ve ever been on didn’t cost more than a few dollars in gas.
For men. Not even close. All women have to do is show up and not looks horrible. And no, wearing $100 worth of makeup is not necessary. As long as you're clean most men will not complain.
Men have to pay for it all. And have to spend more of gifts. 1 date for a man will probably cost at least €50-100. And as the relationship becomes more established, flowers, jewelry, her cars maintenance, etc cost way more than that.
Tough call men usually pay for more. But women end up spending cash on makeup for how many years if its there thing. I’m positive there’s more of a balance then we realize it’s probably a very deep hidden X factor though.
Women likes to talk about makeup and other of those expensive makeover stuff but at the same time, they say they do it for themselves. Because dating is not the only time they wear those.
And they're not forced to wear make up on dates. Lots of guys would rather like to see who they really are and not get decieved. It's either they just do it for other girls, themselves or they're just insecure. I get that there are guys who would reject a girl because he thinks she dont look without makeup but it's because she dont look good to him not because she isn't wearing makeup.
both. do you just assume that women can't pay too? like ever? during years and years of the relationship?
Clothes, shoes, accessories and makeup are expensive
But women insist they do all that for themselves. 🤣
@bamesjond0069 of course. I am saying that it’s more expensive for us.
But if you do it for yourself... even if you had zero dates then you would still do all that. So therefore the date doesn't cost you anything... unless we also consider the man drives you in his $35,000 car therefore he spent $35,000 on the date right?
@bamesjond0069 right.. And what about those of us who actually share the costs of the date? Or had you not considered that it is the asker who pays? Or that some of us actually offer to pay our own way? If you want to whine about how “unfair” it is for men, perhaps it’s the women you choose to date that are the problem.
I dont whine about it. I wouldn't date a girl who paid for a date. Also if i wanted a girl to appear a certain way for my benefit, i would take her shopping for the right clothes... for my benefit. in my opinion women who pay for a date are low quality just as women who demand pay for a date is no more than a prostitute. The high quality women are in the middle of those two mindsets.
@bamesjond0069 wow…. just…wow
Why wow?
@bamesjond0069 I think that should be pretty obvious
@bamejond0069 so the woman who pays for a date is low quality just as the woman who wants a date paid is a prostitute.
That's catch 22, whether you pay for: none, part or all, we're all low quality women. I hope you swing the other way, cause you'll never want any girl with that mindset.
@19magic amen
No. A woman who pays is low quality and a woman who demands a man pays is low quality. A high quality woman would not date a bum, nor demand anything from a man. Whatever he pays is him being generous and she should be thankful and its not really her business what he pays nor her concern. Just the fact he is capable to take her on an enjoyable date. The dollars and cents is not something a classy lady should worry about.
@bamesjond0069 I don’t know what fairytale you live in, but that is so unrealistic as to be absurd. Thank you for the laugh though.
I haven't found it absurd. This is how all three serious relationships i had were. I admit its not common but so what? If every man was a drug addict do you just marry a drug addict? Its not really relevant how rare it is, its an absolute necessity and either she's got the right mind set or she should get with a low value man to equal her own low value. Not my concern.
@bamesjond0069 you do you dude. But if you wind up dating your hand because you call women “low value”, then enjoy being solo.
I call low value women low value and i couldnt care less what they think since im out of their league. Not sure why dating my hand is even something id consider since I've pretty much always had a girlfriend and when i haven't (and even when i have) i get tons of low value women throwing themselves at me anyways. So pretty sure my hand will be going to bed lonely like it has forever basically. My gfs got me covered. Thanks for your insincere consern but im good boo.
@bamesjond0069 you do realize that I don’t care, right? I mean calling people “low value” shows more about you than it doesn’t anyone else. So seriously, good luck with everything, I hope you find what you deserve.
So what I got from that is you like women to pay their own way.
@19magic me?
No the dude, I mean that's what I'll do anyhow is pay for myself, I do work afterall and I would only go on a date somewhere knowing that I'll want something that needs paying for.
@19magic exactly! I mean sure, it was always nice when my boyfriend (now husband) offered, but I never had that expectation.
Is say not admitting there is such a thing as low quality is called delusion. Clearly a crack head prostitute would be very low quality? A murderer meth toothless man? I mean seriously. If you can't admit that one would have to be on some serious drugs id imagine.
@bamesjond0069 I’m done discussing this with you. Clearly, we differ in how we approach life, and that’s fine. So goodnight and good luck in all of your future endeavors.
Men because men are always getting conned out of their money in exchange for little to nothing. But a lot of guys have woken up and learned to not give a woman stuff she hasn't earned.
Good question.
It is not cheap arguably for both genders including transexuals and non binary hermaphrodites.
Beauty alone costs money and sometimes includes pain too.
Another example is a beach date. Think its free? There are costs to the fares and food and sunscreen and whatnot. Only Entry is free if anything is free.
By what I have learned there r 2 types of women. There r women who don't want anything fancy and just want someone to love, nothing extra. Then there r women who want there love to be magical like none have ever seen. So it just matters I guess
It's about even, but it's spent differently. Women spend money on clothes, makeup and shoes... fir them to be " more attractive" when dating, while men spend money on dinners an event tickets.
Maybe for men sense they got to pay and stuff I guess
For women!! LOL. But they do that shit on their own! We don't tell them to!