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Iām actually in another country right now, doing exactly that.
I speak the language and have family there, My younger cousin has a few single friends that I was introduced to. And I really hit it off with one girl she went to school with.
We just started the process for her to come back with me to the states. We have 90 days to get married.
The women here are beautiful, feminine, traditional, Family oriented, and are taught to honor their husbands,
American women are some of the most undesirable females on the globe, Everyone is over weight, masculine, a feminist, old, ā¦ā¦ā¦.. which is why they have to settle for whatās left or die alone,
Iām 28. My soon to be wife is 22. Iāve Ben gone for 3 months hereā¦ā¦ā¦ and will come back probably this winter.
Most guys donāt have the luxury to go find wives over seas, And in most places they keep their bloodlines. Pure and donāt let foreigners into their family.
My parents are immigrants, I speak the language follow the same religion. Culture, Everythingā¦ā¦ā¦. So I have a leg up when it comes to finding a partner here at least.
Some countries in the east will tolerate foreigners (from the west) but. Donāt want anything to do with them personally
Itās not that easy if you donāt have family, friends, Or know the culture/languages or nationality.
if you think your just gunna be some American going to another country for a wife.
your probably gunna come back disappointed. Unless you have roots there and know people.
Iām an American, but I guess that means Iām old, undesirable, ugly, and overweight. Oh well. Iām ready to leave this planet anyway. Iām hoping death will come for me soon.
I honestly donāt plan to live up anywhere pass 40. Maybe my mid or late 30s and thatās it š¤·āāļø
@Sasha0426 I'm confused. You deliberately push men away;but you get mad when men go overseas for women. Help me understand here.
@dudeinohio Wait, who said I was mad theyāre leaving? š
Facts are facts,ā¦ā¦ā¦ women from
Eastern Europe, Mexico, The Philippines, Middle eastā¦ā¦. Are snatching up the highest quality men.
Those are the women that drive new cars. Live in big houses. And never have to work a day in their lifeā¦ā¦ā¦:
If American women were worthy of it, Being good partners, And mothers.
You wouldnāt be seeing that as muchā¦ā¦ā¦..
The divorce rate in the US. is about 50%.
Average among immigrants is about 4%
And youāre gunna tell me that American women are just as good? Take half your money, house. Destroy your family.
And for what?
Any guy thatās worth any real value wouldnāt touch a woman from the statesā¦ā¦ā¦.
Then Iām ready for death.
Bottom line. As a man, Iām the head of the house,
These women in the west want to be men,
Feminine, youth, beauty. Is what I value.
A warm smile when I come home, and peace
Not argue and fight about every little thing,ā¦ā¦ women in the states donāt respect anyone or anything.
Familyās., husbands, Religion. Nothing,:ā¦ā¦. No class, no culture.
Thatās what I see there. Which is why I left,ā¦ā¦..
Then Iām ready to die. Iām looking forward to being dead in the next few years.
And if it makes you feel any better, men have hated me for my whole life. I not once ever had a relationship or had dates. I donāt plan to have either and hopefully die single.
@sasha0426 Needless to say, you seem to be having issues dealing with emotional stress from what I read your answers here. Hence you wish death upon yourself... which sounds so peculiar. You make look yourself foolish. Stop beating up yourself.
... the way you formulated the question with the phrase: "So.."
Don't mind me. I am way too busy with more important stuff ife than to deal with women. I keep myself busy with studying because it makes fun to learn and acquire new stuff.
And even if I had to choose a partnery then I'd watch for quality aspects which are:
-Maturity
-Educated
-Insightful/Caring/knows how to take care of herself.
And such women that the anonymous poster mentioned are the one I despise the most. Nothing but energy vampires. I want to live a peaceful life as best as possible.
Deal with your own stuff. We are not responsible. You should be able to take care of yourself as well as mentally.
@DenizLikesTennis I didnāt fucking ask you to take care of anything for me. If I want to die because itāll make me happy, then what the fuck does it matter to you?
@DenizLikesTennis You said it yourself that you got better things to do with your life. So why are you wasting your time caring what I do with mine?
@Paul09 I donāt give a shit about men not wanting me. I just hate being here in general.
@Lokiion No
@dudeinohio "I'm confused. You deliberately push men away;but you get mad when men go overseas for women. Help me understand here." - Bingo! Spot on!
Majority? I'd be surprised if it's as much as 1%. It's also not new, although there is an increasing trend due to the Internet. In the past, it was common among military to go overseas and bring back a wife. To a lesser degree it happened with people who where not military.
With the Internet people are exposed to a much wider variety of people. When exposed to such a variety of people and cultures, it shouldn't be surprising that people have a preference for one group over another. It would be surprising if that were NOT true.
The US is 4% of the world population. Why would anyone reject the other 96% out of hand? Sure, there is a distance barrier, and immigration laws to deal with, but plenty of people are willing to deal with that to access 96% of the world population.
Yes there are some men who don't like American women. But realistically, no matter what traits they like or don't like, they can still find someone in the states, even if they have to look a little longer. Or they can move to a different part of the country where their preferred traits are more common. But yea, the odds might be better in another country.
Then you have to consider that it's very common in some countries for women to go after western men. Either they just want a ticket to the US or Europe, or the men in their country treat them like shit. There are probably millions of women like that around the world. There are men doing the same thing, but it's a heck of a lot more common for women to do it.
But bottom line is that the vast majority of men still get with local women and vice versa.
I think they need to be careful, lots of women have a false image of western world being free of problems, so they are looking for running away from their places.
These men need to be careful to find the women who really are interested in them and not the other benefits that comes by being with them.
I, for example, really loved my ex fiancé and would go to the worst sh*t hole of a place if I knew he was there. Thatās the love and I think everyone deserves to be loved that way. Iād want someone to love my brother the same way.
I hope everyone will find a woman and a man like this, who will love you for just YOU, not for anything else. Regardless of whatās your job, whatās your status, where you are from, so onā¦
This is most certainly true as well.
āMajorityā what are you talking about? Social media has seriously gone over peoples heads
I also love how people here think you're full of shit despite having no evidence to back up the false claim.
Especially when it's common sense that people aren't doing this.
@Ironic_Method Iāve seen a few men talk about this on social media, but in reality so many men in the US arenāt even qualified / donāt want to be to play the role that men in different countries play to get those submissive foreign women lol the whole war between men and women gender roles is mostly a social media thing anyways. In real life, people get to know each other and eventually see if their roles and how they live their life fit each other.
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A few men have always done it. That's about how many do it these days as well.
Not the majority.
Most men donāt have the luxury of flying across the world to find love, given their financial situation and work opportunities.
But, itās becoming more common.
I wouldnāt put a blanket label over and call it misogyny though.
These men just no longer believe that they can find a partner that is loyal and pure and accommodating in the United States.
Theyāre looking for ātraditionalā wives, which are harder to come by in the United States.
Iām not saying that this is right or wrong.
But, thatās what Iāve heard is happening with this new movement.
Liberals tend to look for other liberals to date.
Conservatives tend to look for other conservatives to date.
Thereās no need to force a liberal to marry a conservative.
Live and let live.
To each their own. 🥂
What is traditional? Not many women want to be stay out home moms or wives. They want to make money on their own because they have dreams.
By traditional, I believe they mean traditional values and also the desire to raise a family.
Different people can have different dreams.
For example, a person who is highly competitive and ambitious may want to set their eyes on building a multibillion dollar business empire.
If thatās their dream, more power to themābut it will likely be very difficult to be a present father at the same time.
They will likely have to prioritize their business empire over their family.
Some peopleās dreams are not centered around career and business, but rather family.
Some men and women feel genuinely fulfilled being present mothers or fathers and feel like the most meaningful thing in their life is raising their children well.
Everyone is free to have their own unique goals and dreams.
Some women dream of raising children and having a close-knit family, valuing family above all else.
I believe men looking for ātraditional womenā are looking for women like that.
And thatās not for everyone.
But for some people, that genuinely IS their dream.
And if they feel like living like that would be giving up on their dreams, then it simply means that life isnāt for them.
They would feel trapped, where someone else may feel fulfilled, so it wouldnāt be a good fit.
My dream isnāt to raise a family per se. But to have an extremely strong marriage. A bond that can withstand anything life may throw at it. A ride or die relationship.
Iām also highly ambitious and want a partner who I can built a multimillion dollar business together with, with global reach.
If I have children though, Iām ready to adapt and adjust and be a good father. Iād still prioritize my marriage above all elseābut, my business would take more of a back seat, as Iād place my children as a higher priority.
Itās hard to live a ābalancedā life and do extremely well at your top priority.
So, we must choose.
Some value career above all else, some value family above all else, and others value something else above all else.
I agree, I don't even think 'the majority" of men (or women) even leave the country AT ALL, for ANY reason, let alone to find a partner.
LMAOOOO. Thatās what they want you to think. The only ones leaving are the passport bros. And the extremely old ones.
Undesirable Old Ones, and Black men who are obviously undesirable.
They go to disenfranchised nations to purchase cheap women. Cheap sex. But they still have to pay that $300 or $400 plane ticket though. 💅💅💅💅
LMAOOOOO. Thatās gotta be the biggest āLā. You literally have to fly overseas to obtain any sex at all. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Cause you canāt even afford to purchase women here.
And here is the truth about the passport bros 👇. Just so you know. You should really follow CYNTHIA G, she exposes all these creeps. 👇👇
https://www.youtube.com/embed/4hosribePiA@sasha0426
Youāre the second person who brought black people into the equation. Like, what is that? Whatās that about?
Majority? šššš Girl I wish.
Weād have more space and it would be less populated. More peace. Less drama.
Less rape. Less statutory rape. Less crime. Less sexual harassment. Less violence. Less abuse of any form. Less mouths of feed.
I FUCKINGā¦ WISHā¦. šššššš
@sasha0426
I rather death than share the planet with women.
If had to choose sharing the planet with you and go with the Grim Reaper to the afterlife, guess which one Iām choosing?
Iām just speaking facts š¤·š»āāļøš¤·š»āāļøš¤·š»āāļøš¤·š»āāļø
You donāt like it? š¤·š»āāļøš¤·š»āāļøš¤·š»āāļøš¤·š»āāļø oh well.
Do you want to look up the statistics of which gender is most aggressive? And so on?
I still rather choose death than stay here.
And just an FYI, yāall are not angels either. Just remember that women are pieces of shit, too.
Actually, I prefer we all go extinct.
@sasha0426
Youāre only sympathizing with men because youāre an undesirable yourself. And no man is turning to look at you. š¤”
Oh, was I suppose to agree with you? Iām sorry š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
But, Iām confused. Why are you making fun of me that men donāt look at me when this conversation was about men being the most aggressive gender? I thought the whole point of this conversation was wishing all men would disappear. Or did you forget what you told me?
Do you like men or not?
I didnāt say all. I said that many should. Thereās more men than women. Obviously a world without men would be depressing š¤¦š»āāļø you read nothing I said. Men like those PassPort BRos should disappear. Trash-Men should disappear.
After an absolutely dreadful marriage, mercifully ended, I decided to change the gene and cultural pool. It wasn't about hate. It was about finding love. I flew to the Philippines twice, was with the same girl both times (no looking around) and brought her home a few years ago. Not unlike her.
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.ZrWYc3WUKj9-RGSSxdhzxwHaLJ?w=203&h=306&c=7&r=0&o=5&dpr=1.5&pid=1.7
When I wake up to her in the morning, I am certain I am cheating fate.
After a Karen or two, ya gotta understand that when you keep doing the same thing over and over, and expect different results, you are insane. I'm not.
I really do look forward to the day where in my 30ās and can hopefully travel and find the one. My work, financial situation just isnāt there yet
@WhiteBoyChill Two visits, fiancƩe visa and green card, plus a little remittance will total around $10,000. Maybe, today, more like $12k. Best investment of your life.
What is a fiance visa and remittance tho?
@WhiteBoyChill It is a visa to bring someone here for the purpose of marriage.
Remittances are to help them out financially.
I see. However I do question if its really better to bring the women over here though. We are a more culturally degenerate society and Iād hate for them to adopt the thoughts and practices of western women
@WhiteBoyChill. I did. Many Americans and Europeans who are set financially stay there.
You mean in the PH?
@WhiteBoyChill Yes.
Iād be curious if I could retire there early on some sort of pension from an old job. That would be nice
@WhiteBoyChill. I would choose Bohol.
I donāt know the first thing about the PH. Why there specifically?
Men have been finding wives overseas since before you were born.
This is nothing new - especially given the era of the Internet. Many early Internet sites were for foreign wife shopping.
I am not a MGTOW or INCEL and definitely not misogynistic, but many men - especially the younger ones who came of age during Reagan-Bush and later - simply want women like their mother, in a way. Back when "women were women", they might say. Instead of being confrontational and excessively assertive - in short, ball busters - they just want a simple loving wife like dad had.
Wasting their time and money. If you can't find 1 decent woman to marry out of millions in your own country then going to foreign land isn't going to help you neither.
Only thing they are going to catch is a woman looking for money and a green card.
Exactly my thoughts. But, unfortunately, they donāt believe that.
What makes you think the ones here donāt want your money?
Also green cards are worth the time and money if it means youāre gonna have the luxury to start a healthy sane family
@Filthy_Immigrant: They do if you have the money, point is going aboard those women typically are hunting for foreign men for opportunity, not love.
Region of geographic locations doesn't change hearts or make good hearts.
Every country has good and bad women in it, so the logic that one needs to purposely go to foreign land to find one good woman while there are literally in most cases several thousands to choose from in their own city and millions in their own country doesn't make sense at all.
my point is that even if the ones oversees want your money at least they got more to bring to the table compared to women here in this shit hole. most bimbos here dont even know what being a mother and great wife is all about; they think being those things make them oppress
@Filthy_Immigrant: You don't get it. A wicked woman aboard is no different than a wicked woman domestic.
They are both equally trash and won't bring ish to the "table"
Youāre seriously living under a rock my man. Women here in the US, by and large donāt believe in traditional things. In Asia its still common for a woman to remain a virgin into her 30ās, or even to have good cooking and cleaning skills. Which is a rarity, in the US
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy youāre the one who doesnāt get it, youāre obviously making a sweeping generalizations. Iāll only believe you if you been around the world yourself
If it makes you feel any better, Iām hoping to die single.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Iāve heard from and learned from enough people to know whatās true and what isnāt.
The predominant view from everyone thatās been there (you obviously havenāt been there yourself) is that the women are in fact, more traditional
@WhiteBoyChill: Both and immigrant can try your luck and see.
You're gonna find out the hard way that regional locations of the globe don't affect the heart of a person in this case a woman.
Except it does though. Cultures vary. Its disenguine to assume all people are the same
@WhiteBoyChill: Culture doesn't make good hearts.
You're too ignorant to be a Christian. You clearly don't read the Bible.
literally untrue, foreign women are more social, more talkative, more affectionate, they accept responsibility for the entertainment in a relationship, they text me back sooner. they're literally just more involved
@007kingifrit: That doesn't = Decent mom, Decent wife, or good hearted woman.
You act like those men in those country don't go through hell with their wicked women.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Except it does though. Iām not denying that humankind is naturally evil, but there are still all sorts of cultures where women are taught from a young age on how to be good mothers and wives.
You donāt see as much emphasis on this in American culture. Its a shameful thing in a lot of cultures for a woman to be promiscuous. But at least here in America its culturally accepted by women, and even promoted for women by media.
Cultural differences exist and they are undeniable.
Thatās because I donāt want to be a mother. At least I have that choice.
Ok. But men that do want children, wonāt compromise their core values
@WhiteBoyChill: Bruh, being taught or not won't matter. Heathen women are ruled by their sinful flesh thus they will act accordingly to that nature which isn't good.
When are you people going to learn?
YouTube videos and coaching guru on the internet are just talking ish.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy I won't disagree; that is an important caveat.
@Curmudgeon: Exactly what they are gonna find. LOL
Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
And I won't bother putting Romans 1 which addresses similar conduct or traits of people that are ruled by their natural sinful nature.
Well duh. People will naturally revert to evil unless theyāre convinced otherwise. And thatās precisely my argument. In America parents tend to be more uninvolved in their childrens lives which is precisely why we have more societal issues than other countries which put more emphasis on traditional family. That isnāt to say everyone listens to whatever theyāve been taught, but more so that someone who is taught good human nature is more likely to practice it than someone who was never exposed to it at all in the first place. Most children go on to adopt as adults the beliefs and practices of their parents
@WhiteBoyChill: You just don't get it. You will maybe one day. š
Bud, youāre the one that seems to think women in every country are all the exact same. If youād travel around a bit more youād realize, they arenāt
@WhiteBoyChill: I never said that. I said geography doesn't change hearts or make good hearts.
I can post about 5 more Biblical scripture of the Bible that teaches the human condition can't be fixed regardless unless God is directly involved in that person's life through His Spirit.
You keep thinking geography and mankind teaching and philosophy will work in making women good wives and moms. š
Because it does. Divorce rates are far lower among white guys married to Asians than white guys married to women from Asia.
How do you explain that if women are all fundamentally the same?
*White guys married to women not from Asia*
@WhiteBoyChill: Who told you staying married = successful marriage.
A marriage can suck for 30 years and people not get divorced.
Thatās true. But hardly anybody ever sticks it out if their marriage sucks.
I wouldn't say it is because they "hate" Western women. It is more them realizing that they are not appreciated here with all the standards women have on men. I am not a fan of men going overseas because I think you have to put in more effort to find someone but understand not everyone has the same experience. I believe that if you dont feel appreciated somewhere then go somewhere where you are appreciated and for some people, it might be another country to find a wife.
But, wouldnāt those men get used to help women overseas to get their green cards?
I mean, thatās pretty risky too.
Most likely they are that assuming their plan is to bring them back here to the US! But I think the source is that they dont mind helping with those needs if they are being valued and appreciated. That is the main issue for them is that in the US they dont feel appreciated or even noticed. I would say the thing about Western women is that they will remind you that they dont need you, and even if they like you they will still dismiss you. So to go from that to being showered with appreciation and reciprocation is enough for those men to feel conformed to even want to help someone with a green card. Let's be honest a lot of men are already getting used here with 0 commitment. so it's a win-win situation for them.
To be honest, Iāve never been in a relationship. But, knowing how men feel about Western women, I donāt see that happening ever. Well, to be fair, I want to be single forever anyway. I guess thatās a plus, aināt it?
Iāll admit, Iām a bad person and would make a horrible partner
Overall it's not like they dont like Western women it's just that enough Western women have shown them that they are not valuable, so they go somewhere they will feel valuable. I think everyone should do that man or woman. But, I guess not dating would help, I respect the decision I would just say dont close yourself out forever!
I already have
I think people in general both men and women fly overseas to experience new and better job opportunities. If they can find a partner that's a bonus. Both me and my partner are expats living in the same country I didn't come here with the purpose of finding someone but I always knew I was never going to marry a man from the country I grew up in.
No that's what social media says.. not real life. Social media is equally as true as Disney Channel😂
But a few men are am sure. You can still find traditional women and men in the western world just not at the strip club where these red pill men go to and complain about the women not being traditional👀
I don't know what makes you think red pill men go to strip clubs more than any other group of men would
@WhiteBoyChill i never said they do more. But real religious men dont hang out with women they do. :)
Yeah I agree
@WhiteBoyChill šš»
In some cases, like USA cities with large Asian or Latina or Slavic immigrant populations, they do the lower cost alternative to that, namely, dating the immigrant women. Where I live it happens all the time and I ahve been there and done that.
In what parts of the US might I find good immigrant women to date?
Iām hoping thereās places besides California.
@WhiteBoyChill What part of the USA are you in?
In fairness, I have heard the argument from some American or other Western World expats overseas that you should go expat if you can, and go live abroad in her world, because the longer she lives in yours, the more likely she is to be Degenerate Leftist Culture indoctrinated.
On the other hand, I see three downsides and caveats to those expat claims:
(1) those expats tend to be wealthy and their wealth buys them a nice enough place in those other countries,
(2) their expat argument assumes that the locals other than your foreign wife will be welcoming to you, and many other countries are not welcoming to outsiders, no matter how eager the outsiders are to assimilate and join.
(3) Also, it is always nice to have home turf advantage. Granted, I often feel like a stranger in my own homeland, given what has happened to California in recent decades, but I still know the history of my place and at least I know the old customs and rules of it.
Iām from the American Northeast, and I do agree with everything you said
@WhiteBoyChill Well, wasn't New York the USA city of immigrants, at least until Los Angeles took over for that?
Perhaps but NYC has gone downhill, I suppose
Maybe Long Island would be alright though?
@WhiteBoyChill Yah, in the same way that San Francisco proper is disgusting but San Jose and various suburban areas are not, at least not yet. :(
Oh fck. Yeah it must be bad watching everything get marketably worse over the years
@WhiteBoyChill It IS heartbreaking.
Yeah man. Especially being older since you probably remember things being a lot different when you were younger.
It is a bit like that though I would narrow it down to white women of northern European ancestry.
Most girls of most cultures are OK with men being men but those white girls sure aren't. In the West, white girls might have infected the non white girls quite a lot.
Really it is quite pleasant to be in the company of non white girls. More than that. Refreshing. If I was a US man, I'd be heading South. Those latin girls are cute. Better lips too.
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Hey Sasha, you'll suffer in your grave if die as you are. In the bottom of your heart you love men, but the fact that men don't notice you, ignore you, push you away and even reject you drives you crazy and makes you frustrated and wanna die or just disappear. You'd love to close your eyes and open them to find yourself in a parallel world where you find all men have become gentlemen. Give you attention, admire you, talk to you gently, kiss your hand and the most important thing want you. You want to feel wanted and noticed and loved by men. The bad news is that type of men exist only in love stories. In real life you find real Alpha, dominant strong harsh men. They simply feel attracted to submissive women (They almost don't exist in the US, that's why they brig them from the other part of this world).
All my friends who have sought out companions did not need to purposely travel overseas to find their partners.
They found the people they got attracted locally.
However, I do have a few friends who met their partners while vacationing abroad while not actually seeking anyone.
passport bros, those blacks are not majority but claim their own women are not compatible. not about "all western women" and certainly not the "hate" you wrote about here. but in a way western women are a "handful" to deal wish so easier with Philippines lady i dated several untol they dumped me.
And some come to the usa and find wife.
I know of somw that went overseas. Generally ones that have bo chance here, endless online sating frustration and getting oldā¦ so they go overseas to find young wife and have kids.
Plenty still marry in usa.
Western women need to return to traditional values , turn iff corrupting media and social influences
This isn't a new concept. Mail order brides have been around for a long time.
My girlfriend is from the Philippines and we are taking a vacation there next month. I've been there before I have met many expats who have moved there and stayed because their Filipina girlfriend or wife didn't want to leave.
Why do you like Philippines so much? why not Romania, Tanzania, Egypt... I dunno, Honduras or Japan? why everyone marrying philippinos?
Are they easy to get or drop dead gorg, whats the secret from your male point of view? No disrespect im just genuinly curious
@ItsMykolaJenkins , content Philippines, the culture their is very family oriented which makes marriage easier than among feminist agenda.
@ItsMykolaJenkins They are traditional and family orientated plus they also speak English and a lot are well educated.
They are very different culturally and their looks... well, i won't be disrespectful but they always reminded me me teenage boy body
I dont understand males
@ItsMykolaJenkins I supsect it is because The Phillippines are foreign, but not THAT foreign, to Americans. Usually a common Christian cultural heritage (more Catholic than Protestant, but close enough) and the USA actually ran the place for about 50 years as well.
@Curmudgeon they are attractive to americans?
@ItsMykolaJenkins Often, yes!
i love women.
However the reason i want to relocate to Thailand is due to very affordable living and entertainment prices there while working in IT. And i can go to the beach whenever i want to.
If i find a girlfriend sooner here in Europe and she wants to go to Thailand with me too, then I'll have her. If not, well, i can still find love over there. Hopefully not from those adept gold diggers.
Thailand is super fun, and Thai people are nice, but a different culture that takes a little bit to really understand. I hope you have a great time!
oh, also, you can meet heaps of tourists from all over the world in Thailand, so if you want a European girlfriend you can likely find one even there, and she's also more likely in relaxation mode and ready to have some romance! <3 <3
@zeitgeist057 yay! that got me excited. I can't get rich quick enough to go to Thailand.
Check these fancy condos in Thailand. They cost only 1/3 of what it would cost in the USA or Europe. I'd own one of these and live in it.
https://youtu.be/8waFTBUdWAI
This is why I want to be there.
that's cool, I went the other way and found the cheapest beach bungalow I could for $5 a night on average. I stayed for months at a time, and my monthly rent was about $150 ($5 X 30 nights).
That condo does look nice, though. I think Thailand has a law you can't own property unless you are Thai, though, and if you have a Thai partner, they can just take it and you don't have any legal recourse. Not 100% sure and maybe that's an old law?
The real sustainable life would be rather than get rich is just get a remote job where you can make US salary even something low like $50K/year and then go live overseas like a king.
@zeitgeist057 That's right. it is unfortunate, that only Thai nationals may purchase and own land property. Perhaps it is worth considering taking up dual citizenship in Thailand and then buy it. I'd go for it.
A quick look shows, that it may be possible to buy an apartment or condo as a migrant but only if the building is owned up to 40% of migrants and after that cap it's legally a no-go. wise.com/gb/blog/buying-property-in-thailand
They definitely have some outdated laws but nevertheless a paradise is a paradise.
@Unit1 well it's kind of a cool law I think, because it keeps their country from getting bought up by rich people of other nationalities. That happened to Ethiopia, rich Italians bought all the coastline. Now Ethiopia has zero coastline and the Italians turned their former coast into a new country, Eritrea. en.wikipedia.org/.../History_of_Eritrea
I had a cool idea once and I might still do it in the future: to pick a cheap country (like Thailand, Panama, Costa Rica, Brazil, whatever) and buy some property to start a hostel or bungalows or whatever. I just think it would be super cool, you'd have travelers from all over always coming in, plus making money on top of that.
@zeitgeist057 Makes me think they sold part of their country to another country like forfeiting it on a jurisdictional level rather than selling land but the land still belonging under the same country/region. But then again, I'm bad with history and i don't know how it works. I'm better at trading (investing) than that.
yea it's becoming more common i even heard it irl. the woman here are just so low quality, they want such nonsense things like equality even though men and women evolved to be totally different
worst of all white women keep getting offended on behalf of groups of people they aren't apart of, if you believe in social justice die alone, or just die.
Iāll take death
@kylee2437 i even heard someone doing it in real life, it isn't just an internet thing
@kylee2437 no, he was clear about the reason... you are just wishing it was something differnt
studies predict women in america will be 40% single by 200, that's HIGH
@007kingifrit Thatās bad becauseā¦?
it's bad for so many reasons where do i even begin
1. children are the soldiers, workers and taxpayers of the future, without marriage and kids all social programs collapse
2. if that many lonely people populate a society eventually 1 person will stand up and say "folow me i will fix all your problems" and that's how you get the nazi party
3. men and women complete eachother, they aren't their best selves alone
I rather be single. Itās actually quite peaceful āŗļø
Especially, for the mind. Iām not mentally stable for a relationship. I canāt handle all that.
yea and that's another thing, left wing white women are mentally ill, damaged from their wrong values and social media use
Ok š¤·āāļø
Maybe weāll die off. Iām ready to leave this planet, honestly.
@007kingifrit "it's bad for so many reasons where do i even begin" .. to respond to your points:
1. Less soldiers? Okay less killing, sounds good. Less workers? Less industry, less pollution, more nature, okay, also sounds good (also, less mouths to feed, having fewer people reduces production, but also reduces consumption at the same time). Less taxpayers? Less government, okay I'm sold, it's a great idea!
2. Nazi party happened because of dissatisfaction, true. But dissatisfaction is always present, humans are never satisfied and will always complain, whether they have a partner or not. Also, see the next response.
3. This is the model of unhealthy, co-dependent type relationships. A healthy relationship isn't "you complete me.", it's two complete people who are already balanced and happy, who engage each other out of choice, not desperation or feeling incomplete and broken.
@sasha0426 please I don't know what you mean but I saw a few times you talking about choosing death.
988 is the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline, call anytime if you are thinking of hurting yourself or feeling like ending your life.
@zeitgeist057 I wouldnāt do it myself. Iām just waiting for something to happen. Like, if a shooter came by. Or a disease develops. Something Iām not expecting.
@zeitgeist057
1. less soldiers doesn't mean less war hippie, it actually means more, and closer to home. big armies prevent wars. less workers means less things that you want, pollution? 70% of all carbon emissions come from 3rd world countries. less taxpayers means none of those social programs you want
2. dissatisfaction is not the same as a mass of lonliness, no lots of people actaully are satisfied with their lives
3. fantasy nonsense, people complete eachother, and should depend on one another
@sasha0426 grow up, life's not that hard and there's lots of things to enjoy, you have too pronounced a sense of justice and it has been manipulated by the word "social" . its a religion for unhappy people to constantly be told nothing is good enough.
everything is built on genocide, you don't have free will, and the longer we live in peace the more insane and irrational we become until war is necessary.
now that' I've sufficiently lowered your expectations for life you can be happy
@007kingifrit Go fuck yourself š
you have talked about suicide dozens of times in this thread, you obviously aren't happy with your life, i am happy. learn from me
@007kingifrit it seems you're unable to refute the responses I made logically, without name calling and making up thing that you believe I believe/want, but that I don't. They're called logical fallacies and wow you managed to cram three into a single reponse, congratulations. Some examples you've used are straw man logic and ad hominem attacks: resources of those whose arguments are weak and without actual logic.
No need to continue, nothing you've said so far merits response, and I doubt you're the type to admit your mistakes and grow from them.
I'm too broke for that. But I have tried talking to foreign women. They're safer than western women, but a far cry from a guarantee of success. Simply being foreign, they have plenty of their own challenges.
Safer how?
Less likely to make false rape orharassment claims if they decide they don't like some minor thing about you.
People here in the US dont value what matters in a relationship until it's too late. Onlyfans, hookup culture, and unrealistic standards for partners are to blame. Women pursue the top 15% of men. When I am done with my military contract, I'm going overseas and starting a new life there.
Yes, to be honest, I don't like how are society encourages to follow our whims and desires, we are one of the countries with high divorce rate, our family structure is broken, Yours don't want to take responsibility, hookups, prostutions are rampants, no traditional values, people don't want to adjust or not tolerant...🌱
I don't think this is actually all that common.
Maybe among immigrants/strong cultural groups who are looking for someone who shares their cultural values, but I don't think most people do this intentionally otherwise.
No men just don't like being treated like subhuman trash. In fact let me put it this way. If you had a boyfriend and a pet dog, and you had to choose only one of them to live while the other dies. I'm genuinely not sure you wouldn't choose the dog over the man.
Whatās the point of having pets if no one would even try their hardest to save them? Why do humans treat their pets like theyāre nothing?
And I would want my boyfriend to do the same. Iām sure my life is important to him and he would want me around for a long time, but I hope he would choose our dog.
Why? Why should my life matter more? Explain that to me.
I would ask the opposite why does your own life matter so little to you that you would sacrifice yourself for a dog? I'm genuinely trying to understand this thought process. Are animals more important to you are humans just that evil? Are you in the ball park of less humans makes the world a better place and this is just glorified unsubbing from life? Like i legit do not understand your thinking.
I have a 2-year-old Springer Spaniel. How am I suppose to look at her? Nothing? She means a lot to me.
Some are. A different country, means a different culture, exotic women. You like what you like and if you have the money, why not? Speaking of money, life might be cheaper there.
They would be happy if the bitchy ones disappeared. Just like we would be happy if the assholes disappeared.
Yes, Men are going overseas looking for a partner, but its not that they hate Western women, they are just tired of being rejected time after time, so they are hoping that by going overseas they might find someone.
Ok š¤·āāļø I guess all I can say is good luck.
I rather just disappear
Only a very few actually are. It's extremely expensive to repeatedly fly overseas.
Actually, why do you care. You always push away guys and don't indicate a need for a relationship. I'm confused.
Who said I cared? š¤Ø
Iām forward to die single. Actually, Iām looking forward to death in general.
Sorry... my mistake.
I'm seriously upset that your life is so bad you want to die. I wish all the best for you.
Itās better than being here š¤·āāļø
@sasha0426 obviously you do care otherwise you wouldnāt be posting about it. @dudeinohio donāt buy into her BS. If she wants to die, she will kill herself. All she is looking for is attention.
@Kingofkings1992 I will if you give me any tips. Or you can hire a gunman to shoot me. Iāll give you my address.
Also, I know you hate me. Maybe wish something bad will happen to me, if that will make you feel better.
You can wish Iāll get cancer. Itāll kill me quicker š
@sasha0426 I donāt hate you. I think you do a good enough job hating yourself
You should hate me.
I want you, too. Itāll make you feel better.
While the number is increasing, it is nowhere near majority of even half.
Do you think thatās true?
it is is, why?
what should western women do to change that?
I donāt know š¤·āāļø
Yup. Theyāre called passport bros.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Passport%20bros
I dont believe that to be entirely true even though I'm a foreigner married to an American man. I do believe a lot of American women gave such high standards that they shop themselves out of the market.
this isn't correct. the majority men in the US are NOT leaving the US to find women
but some men do seek partners from other countries
Because NA woman are generally a lot more trouble than they are worth. Foreign women have problems of their own ofcā¦and the cultural differences could make things difficultā¦but they generally seem a lot more down to earth
As others said its not uncommon. Its not a majority of men. Its a very small minority of men. Most men want a traditional wife. So a small amount of wealthy men that can afford it go and find a wife over seas.
there are some that do.
There are sites for just about every country.
Most/many seem to be in 3rd world nations where they are looking for a better life.
The cost of women becoming the men they want, and completely misunderstanding what men actually value in a partner.
@kylee2437 men are reliable you just can't use the excuse man splaning everytime guys try to make solutions to the issues. Otherwise men check out, its simple men go where they are wanted.
@zeitgeist057 If I make too much sense it would only be the second time. Women these days are all issue searching with no clue about solutions.
Since something like 70% of the US population doesn't have a passport, I'm thinking that is a false statement.
Passport bros, yeah. Successful men are sick of being treated like an ATM and want a wife who believes in actual equality.
If Western women were to die off, would men be happy?
john was talking about wife. please donāt be so extreme as you wrote here and to @derekc321 .
I was just curious how men would feel if we all disappeared.
Western women will either figure it out or die alone with a bunch of cats.
I got a dog so it wonāt be so bad I guess
We're not leaving America, just bringing a non American girl over here cause we're sick of the trashiness of American women, especially black women
Who raised you to be racist?
If youāre not racist, how come you wonāt say anything about any other race?
And I bet, if you see a black person, you harass them and call them the āNā word. Then falsely accuse them of being violent when they stand up for themselves.
I don't harass anyone, and I'm telling the truth. Singing songs about rape, murder, drive by shootings, doing drugs and robbing people as if it's all cool is what's wrong with the slums. And black people are poor by their own doing and their victim mentality is holding them back
If they changed that and took accountability for their own actions, they'd run circles around me. But I have depression and suicidal ideation, and I'm running circles around them, there's no excuse for that being the case.
Acting like children and animals, glorifying violence and committing acts of violence for fun is destroying our society. The same issue persists in all other races as well, but nowhere near as badly as in black people
I feel you on the black women part, as a guy living in Detroit Michigan. They start shit over the smallest miscommunication. Today at work 2 of my co workers were gonna fight cause one called the other lazy and told him to move. The guy was being lazy but started tryna provoke the other guy. Then they rubbed up against each others shoulders talking"catch me after work at my house see what happen" "ill shoot yo scary ahh" I had to break them up. All over some damn lettuce picking work. This is why the streets stay the way they do.
@sasha0426 racism is the default biological position not a choice
@sasha0426 I suspect @Rangers IS African American (Black). So many of the "Passport Bros" do in fact tend to be.
no way the majority could do that. It cost big bucks and takes time to pull off a stunt like that. Although it is true that this has become more common.
I doubt itās a majority. Mail order brides are not necessarily a new thing but it does look like there is a spike in the rate of these marriages. It is still likely well below 1% of all marriages, however.
Because western men lack accountability. So instead of admiring their faults or working out their flows, theyād rather run off and smother the issue. Just the similar ways they avoid parenting responsibilities
+ some western men etc.
I sense... hate. From you. Not that I don't understand hate. We all have our reasons. I have mine. Just at the world in general, quite often. I'm curious about yours. From one hater to another.
I just hate humans. I donāt want to share this planet with anyone anymore.
there's a lot sexist liberals in the comments being misogynistic to foreign women
It's what Im probably going to resort to someday lmao
Majority no, a lot yes, is this new, no, but now there's social media to illustrate it.
Some are for sure. I doubt the numbers are too high though.
Majority? Iād say itās a very vocal minority who hate women.
Or they just fly women here. Mail order brides were always a thing.
I think a lot of men are just accepting crap modern western women, or staying single.
Men have lost self respect. Itās certainly a good idea for men to look elsewhere as women are brainwashed by a degenerate society.
Men have always hated me so Iām cool with them finding other women š¤·āāļø
Besides, I already knew I was going to die alone anyway.
Nope. I was just want to be left alone.
No, not a majority. A group of men are leaving, but most have decided to tough it out and hope they find someone that things work with.
Lol please leave then, I could care less what they do with their personal lives.
No, just a few losers who think that overseas women will be submissive. For the most part they aren't believe me, I have lived in Asia and Latin America.
Indeed, having known many many people in White American Husband / Asian Immigrant Wife relationships, nearly always the wife in that relationship has the husband "Wrapped Around Her Finger", as the song goes. So long as her "honey-do" list isn't too long and she isn't too bitchy or demanding, their husbands tend to be grateful!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akjSskzfdmc
i feel bad for thise poor women they would victimized
It happens but I wouldnāt say majority. I donāt even personally know one man that has flown out for that primary reason.
I would say the western women want too much a tie wife is much better 10 years and you know what you are getting
thai i understand you.
Yeah they are and I congratulate them. It might not pay off 100% in the end but at least they will have a bright future for their family
The majority are not. Also, Western people dating people from overseas doesn't mean they hate other Western people.
Statistically US men have to if they don't want to remain single.
Youāre nowhere close to being correct. A majority of western men are still living in the west. Weāre either choosing to be single, or still dating regardless.
There are very few dudes who are actually booking tickets to South America or Belarus to get married. What you see on 90 Day Fiancé is not reality.
Well, at least from a Canadian standpoint.
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