Is it wrong that I want to date a girl who’s 18 to early 20’s?

[Anonymous]

I’m 31 and I’ve never dated. I’ve realized that I have missed out on so much by not dating when I was younger and I know that I’m only gonna keep getting older and I need to get a move on. The thing is, me and a lot of other guys in this situation feel a bit dismayed that we have to go directly to dating older women because of our age and we’ll never get the experience of dating young women. So my question is that as a 31 year old man, is it wrong that I would want to date a girl age 18-24? One issue that I could see is that it is a given that women do not like inexperienced men and a woman that much younger that me could find it very off putting and unappealing that despite me being that much older than her, I’m significantly less experienced than her. I think that’s why younger women like dating older men too, because of the higher experience level compared to guys her age. That’s the biggest selling point.

[Summeroflove]

It’s not wrong as long as you’re all adults but having a real relationship should be built on genuine love and connection, I don’t know if that’s what you’re after or if it’s the fun and excitement.

That matters a lot more then age is the intentions behind dating if that makes sense.

[Asker]

Honestly, I think it is the fun and excitement. Like I said, I didn’t date when I was younger and at that time you’re dating for fun and exploration. But when you get to my age, most people start seriously dating with long term relationships and settling down in mind.

So I am missing the fun and exploration phase and do want it, and also women my age won’t see me as a serious dating prospect since I’m nowhere close to settling down yet and obviously the relationship won’t last as first ones never do. If that makes sanders

[Summeroflove]

Then asker I think for your own good and the good of potential partners. You shouldn’t date until you feel genuine attraction for someone.

What happens if you knock someone up? What happens if you contract a STD? What happens if you’re falsely accused or rape? What happens if you sleeping with someone hurts your reputation?

[Asker]

That’s just some BS feel good nice guy nonsense. Women fuck men without genuine attraction for them all the time and men should do the same. If I knock I someone up, she can abort the pregnancy. That’s what condoms are for, move to Costa Rica so that a false accusation doesn’t ruin your life, getting laid doesn’t hurt your reputation as much as being sexless does.

[Summeroflove]

Number one abortion is murder. Number two not everyone will abort a pregnancy. Number three yes there are whores of both sexes doesn’t mean everyone is.

If you would take time to find someone who genuinely loves you and vice versa. But you’re too desperate for sex and you’re gonna get burned I promise. It’s men like you who get the shitty women and I can tell you’ve had bad experiences

[Summeroflove]

Being sexless is a lot more honorable then sleeping with 100s and condoms don’t work 💯. It’s better to wait for the right person and leave the degenerate whores alone

[Asker]

Yep, you sound like a type beta nice guy white knight. I don’t believe in that right person BS its a fictional fairytale that you clearly have bought into. There is nothing honorable about being sexless, its shameful and embarrassing. I would rather pump and dump those degenerate whores and eliminate most of the risk with condoms.

[Asker]

Number one, no it isn’t murder and keep fooling yourself to think that it is while people who see the truth know that we need open access to it. Number two, most women will instead of ruining their own lives with a pregnancy. Third, I don’t believe in true love and I’m fine with casual dating and hooking up for fun, keep believing all of your fairytales about true love, you’re the one who’s gonna get burned when you find out what you’re believing doesn’t even exist lol

[Summeroflove]

Leftists like yourself are “betas” people like you use those words to make yourself feel better when 9/10 it’s all projection. Especially because you need sex to be happy. That’s sad

Any true “alpha” or “sigma” has more to life then sex and is looking for either a deeper connection or doing their own thing

[Summeroflove]

Women who fuck around as well as men who do and bring a child into the world made their own choices. I don’t wanna hear WAHHHHHHHH from you people.

You’re the one sitting defending abortion probably one of those dudes who think it’s gonna get you laid. I have some advice please cut your man bun off and attach the hair to your balls

[Asker]

Keep telling yourself that and coping you Trumptard incel. That was all just one big cope since its easy to tell you’re salty about how women don’t want a nice guy like you.

[Asker]

If they made their own choices, then they have the right to make their own choice and get an abortion as well. I don’t think its gonna get me laid at all, it is just a basic human right that should be accessible. You probably wanna keep it outlawed so you can baby trap whatever woman finally gives in and has awkward pity sex with you.

[Summeroflove]

Beta males are almost always liberal. The only girls you can pull are fat with green hair. Go drink another soy latte punk

[Summeroflove]

Asker you make your own choices too. Soon as you knock a woman up and she doesn’t kill her baby. You’ll be crying you’re paying child support and expected to be any sort of fatherly figure.

[Summeroflove]

Probably some green haired freak

[Asker]

Well you’re an example that isn’t always the case and Trumptards can be too, they’re also the biggest snowflakes ever 🤣 You can’t pull any girls at all and are raging that they won’t give you, the nice guy provider a chance.

[Asker]

No I won’t be since I wouldn’t date someone who isn’t pro choice and even in the scenario you described, I’d hit the road and disappear.

[Asker]

At least you don’t have to worry about that with your Ivanka sex doll, I heard Donald uses his all the time and endorsed it since he can’t date her!

[Summeroflove]

“Trumptards” always using big words even if you have to make one up

[Summeroflove]

I don’t have a Ivanka sex doll I can’t stand her or her piece of shit husband if anyone probably has one it’s you

[Summeroflove]

Lol. Just because someone’s pro choice notice the word CHOICE…. She could choose to have the baby. And eventually someone will dip shit

[Asker]

Hey man, your orange idiot failed miserably during Tuesday’s debate and it was hilarious to watch 😂 Now he’s running scared and is refusing to do another debate with Kamala LMAO

[Asker]

Maybe you have a Melania sex doll then? Either way you were probably holding it tight and crying after the debate lol

[Asker]

She could choose to have the baby all she wants if she doesn’t mind being a single mom, because I won’t be around for it.

[Summeroflove]

No I don’t have Trumps wife as a sex doll stop projecting who you are on me dude

[Summeroflove]

Asker….. nobody’s gonna be a single mom because I make responsible choices. If you’re a single dad to any snake in the grass that will sleep with you. That’s ok you

[Asker]

Oh I’m sure you do. How much were you crying after she mopped the floor with him in the debate?

[Asker]

That’s her choice to be a single mom for not aborting the pregnancy because I won’t be there to deal with that.

[Asker]

Try not to get too mad and upset when Kamala wins the election, okay?

[Summeroflove]

You will be there to deal with it because you’ll have a court order

[Summeroflove]

Okay asker we will see what happens. Nobody with a fraction of a brain would even consider voting for her. Just people like you

[Asker]

Not if I’m in Costa Rica I won’t. Can’t court order someone who isn’t even in the country.

[Asker]

Actually anyone with even a shred of common sense would vote against the orange dictator that you idolize. Imagine being so stupid to think that a convicted felon who staged an insurrection is the better option. Clearly you don’t have a brain at all.

[Summeroflove]

Please stay far away from America. We don’t need people like you

[Asker]

Oh I’m in America and I am a citizen who can vote, and Harris is getting my vote!

[Summeroflove]

Move to Costa Rica like you said you’re going to then. Before the baby mamas start calling you needing that money 💰

[elaphe]

You can date whomever you want, as long as they also want to date you. At your age, you are talking about an age gap of about 10 years. Thay isn't huge provided the woman is a mature 21-year-old. Some people that age still act like high schoolers.

[Yesdarlingmoon]

yeah its weird you want someone not mentally mature nor experienced

[Asker]

First of all, experienced women do not want inexperienced men and there’s a lot of times when not even inexperienced women want an inexperienced man. Second, women mature mentally sooner than men do anyway.

[rachel776]

18 to 20 will be like a wild mustang if you have no experience

[Asker]

By that you mean near impossible to get?

[rachel776]

impossible to handle

[Asker]

Well up up for a challenge and maybe I’ll hire a dating coach to help me too.

[AviatorTom]

It's not wrong if she's okay with it, but you may not have much in common. Why not try women closer to your age?

[Asker]

Did you not read what I wrote? I do not want to go directly to dating older women if I’ve never dated.

[Avicenna]

If you’re consenting adults, it’s not wrong.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

"it is a given that women do not like inexperienced men"
"because of the higher experience level compared to guys her age"
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A given by your own fantasy yes, in the real world your fantasy doesn't apply lol, go out of your made up sentences you have read I don't know where. Meet the real world please !

Go go go ! It's waiting for you !

[Asker]

It isn’t a made up fantasy, it is a proven fact

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Bring the good reads then, I want to see these "facts"

[Asker]

51% of women would not date an inexperienced man according to a scientific study conducted by Match. com

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Which would mean that 49% of women don't give a damn, which is A LOT of women. Probably like 50 billions if you're in USA. I think it should be enough for a lifetime

[Asker]

I knew you were gonna come back with something like that and that’s complete and total bullshit. That source I cited was from 11 years ago too, and the current number is like 65% don’t want an inexperienced man. You’re trying to give me these bluepilled copes and it doesn’t work because I see my situation realistically, which is that women are exiling me because I’m inexperienced.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

If we start talking about colored pills then... Yes, taking the red one seems to ensure that you'll be spinning towards the bottom of your frustration. I have no wish to spectate your self-destruction. This conversation is then terminated. Good luck!

[Asker]

Yeah go ahead and run away like a coward. I know its really because you know I’m right and not falling for your lies you’re trying to cope me with. And I’m blackpilled actually.

[Drumlin2001]

From my experience, having not had any dating history till 35, I would advise looking for an older person who will have more life experience and better developed emotional inteligence. An 18yr will not more likely that not not understand your situation.
Why have you not dated? Have you had any experience with women? Physical intimacy? How comfortable are you with approaching women and taking things to another level?

[Apple1996]

That's really creepy.. you are just trying to make up for lost time and it wouldn't fair to the younger women for them to waste time with a old fart

[Asker]

31 is hardly an old fart and those younger women are dating for fun and exploration, which is exactly what I want to do as well. You saying it wouldn’t be fair to them is complete and total BS.

[Apple1996]

I don't know any young women dating for fun. Most are trying to find something serious. And no 31 is old

[Apple1996]

It's not fair cuz you'd be in their way of finding something serious. You already had your chance to date them 10 years ago and should have taken it

[Asker]

Everyone dates for fun in their teens and early 20’s, men and women both. You’re only fooling yourself and are delusional if you believe people in that age group are trying to find something serious and lifelong.

[Asker]

Oh it’s totally fair and spare me the self righteous BS that I would be in their way of finding something serious. Typical woman talking point about how every woman is always looking for her prince charming and any man who isn’t gonna meet her at the altar and only wants to date her for fun is pure evil, meanwhile they hook up with a dozen different fuckboys before ever getting married to a guy they sidelined for years. You don’t know me and I did not at all have a chance 10 years ago. I haven’t even met any women in the past 10 years, not even one. So I did not have a chance 10 years ago, so what you’re claiming doesn’t even apply to me.

[Apple1996]

Have you been in jail for the past 10 years? That's the only scenario I see not being able to be with women in that time

[Apple1996]

Most of gen z is dating for serious reasons. It's more the older generation that dated for fun in their teens and 20s

[Asker]

I’ve been working in places where there were no women and also it is way easier than you think to go 10 years and not meet any women. I’ve found that women are so out of touch and think that men’s experiences with meeting women and dating is the same is theirs when it is starkly different and men are meeting less women than ever these days. So again, you’re delusional and out of touch.

[Asker]

Gen Z eats tide pods and are addicted to TikTok and want to make being an influencer on there as their career. They are not dating for something serious lol, people like them don’t do that.

[Apple1996]

I know 100s of gen z couples that are married with childern lol I think you might be the one who is out of touch. Like I said the older generations partied and all that young but it's truly not like that anymore

[Apple1996]

I can't speak for meeting people cuz I never had to deal with dating as a adult. I'm sure it's hard especially as you are getting older

[Asker]

Birth rates are significantly down and people are more likely to want dogs instead of children these days, and that is especially true among gen z. So that’s a complete and total falsehood that you’re claiming lol

[Asker]

At least you admit you’re out of touch because you never dated as an adult and that explains a lot now. Yes, it is way harder.

[Apple1996]

The birth rate is low because of millennials wanting dogs instead of animals. Probably cuz they wasted their youth. It's not because of gen z lol

[Apple1996]

Instead of babies 😂 bad typo there

[Apple1996]

I live in a big neighborhood full of married gen z with tons of kids including my husband that is gen z with 5 kids lol

[Asker]

Gen Z is even more likely to want dogs than babies, you just can’t see that. Most younger people don’t want kids these days, especially them.

[Apple1996]

I see it differently because I acutally have kids and im around a lot of parents so I know who is really having kids

[Asker]

And the people you are around and yourself included only represents a small percentage with the largest percentage of millennials and gen z not wanting kids.

[Apple1996]

It's pretty apparent just online as well that lots of young people are having a kids right now. It's not hard to notice this trend. 2024 in general has been a bit of a baby boom

[Asker]

That isn’t true at all and whatever report you saw claiming that is totally bogus. There’s a lot of fake news online and it sounds like that’s what you fell for. South Korea for example is actually trying to start government incentives to get young people to start having kids because nobody is and birth rates are down so significantly.

[Apple1996]

I'm pretty certain a lot of Chinese/Asian people planned on having 2024 babies because it's the year of the dragon. Obviously birth rates for this year aren't out yet tho but it has seemed like a baby boom compared to the past couple of years

[Asker]

You’re just grasping at straws at this point by referencing the lunar new year LMAO. The data speaks for itself and you’re believing fake news and hearsay instead of the facts that most young people want dogs, not kids.

[Apple1996]

Def not fake news. I had to be switched to 3 different doctors offices and between hosptials cuz they were over crowded this year. One of the doctors were saying it was because of the dragon thing and a lot of people having babies right now

[Asker]

Again, that’s hearsay. That has absolutely no basis as scientific data or facts. You are believing hearsay and fake news as I already said, scientific studies and data show the facts that birth rates are very low. COVID cases have been on the rise again and the hospitals were likely overcrowded because of that, the data actually backs that up too.

[Apple1996]

There obviously aren't any birth rates for 2024 out yet but no not cuz of covid like the obgyn and l&d were over crowded cuz of pregnant women😂

[Asker]

Hospital overcrowding due to COVID affects every department, even the ones you mentioned.

[Nikki1989]

Just because it is legal doesn't make it any less creepy.

[Asker]

I bet you’re someone who would date a guy away younger and get angry if anyone called her creepy for it.

[Summeroflove]

I don't know she said she married older

[DrPepper12]

There's nothing wrong with desiring LEGAL youthfulness but dude, your 31!! WTF happened in your twenties?

[Asker]

I worried that no women would want me because of my inexperience, so it held me back and now my inexperience looks a million times worse at 31 than it ever did in my 20’s. I just feel like giving up altogether a lot of times honestly, I’ve missed out on so much like I already said and if older women are now my only option then what’s the point?

[Apple1996]

Most women don't give a shit about experience. That's just you being insecure with yourself

[Asker]

There’s so many examples that prove women do care about experience and women love to lie about this and say that experience doesn’t matter, which is exactly what you’re doing.

[Anonymous]

Give us your full name for the register and remember you have to tell the neighbors

[Asker]

Since when is 18 illegal and earns you a spot on the registry idiot

[Opinion Owner]

When it's non-consensual

[Asker]

I’m talking about when it is mutual and consensual, moron

[Opinion Owner]

18 year olds aren't into 30 year olds

[Asker]

For something casual they can be.

[Opinion Owner]

Keep dreaming

[Anonymous]

There's nothing wrong with it per se. So long as you understand just because you're mature, doesn't mean she is. You need to be prepared for that fact.

[OddBeMe]

Pretty much. Whatever rationale you think of you’re lusting after young flesh and am inexperienced mind your can manipulate.

[chrissykerdock]

it's not really that much of a gap

[Maybeyoutoo]

Yes it's wrong and scary

[Asker]

What makes it scary lol

[slatyb]

That's just creepy.

[Asker]

I think its unfair that I have to just never date young women when I’ve been alone and sexless my whole life and now all I have to look for to is older women.

[slatyb]

Unfair? Unfairness implies that some conscious entity is handing out boons. There is no such entity. You weren't born with a right to date young women --- you let that opportunity pass you by. Anyway, it's not true that somehow 20-year-old women are more desirable than 30-year-old women. If you feel that way, you are not mature enough to form a successful partnership with anyone. Have you considered professional counseling?

[Asker]

Fuck off with your therapy suggestion, therapy is a scam and doesn’t work because you’re literally paying someone to give you the same useless advice that people give you for free on the internet. Second, I never said that I was entitled, just that it is unfair that I am now labeled as creepy or not even seen as a potential suitor to younger women and it is now older women only for me while most other men got to experience dating young women.

[slatyb]

Got to? Why didn't you? What have you been doing for the past ten years? You seem to be very angry. No woman will find this attractive.

[Asker]

Because I didn’t have the confidence to and then became even less confident because I was inexperienced as a young adult and I know for a fact that women do not like inexperienced men and find that to be a big turn off, so it held me back and now the inexperience looks a million times worse than it did when I was younger since I’m
now in my 30’s. And after all of this, the only thing I have to look forward to is dating older women if I try to get out there? Yeah, you’re damn right I’m fucking angry!

[slatyb]

You can keep on keeping on or you can take a good look in the mirror.

[Asker]

Or just buy escorts instead of dating and just fuck everything else.

[noohair]

Try reading and do research.

[In_Trance]

Yes it is