What actions must a man take to demonstrate he’s worthy of more than just casual interest?

[MzAsh]

[RiseofArtemis]

I honestly don't have a clue on that anymore. with a girl I showed signs of interest early on in her, we had lots in comon I made her laugh easily I'm from what I know basically all a woman would want with just one flaw, I'm short. I'm charming and she said I look good but she still ended things when I proposed if we wanted to go to the next base. We knew each other for 4 months and I always tried to push things slightly but never too far to make her feel that I would be desperate or that I just wanted to sleep with her and bolt away. Perhaps I wasted too much time or I pushed too hard and scared her away, who knows.

All I know is that I won't waste my time trying to get a girl anymore and just try to be as successful as I can be and single.

[overlord337645]

gonna be honest rejection and breakup are the biggest character tells as they show how a person can handle being told no on a very large scale however i dont really reccomend breaking up or rejecting someone over that alone that being said if you do reject someone how they respond and what they do after is very telling so while it probs won't help with relationships past being freinds it does demo good character if they handle it well

[777GgG]

Same show I'd put on to convey my interest.

With my current partner I let him know I admired his talents. Showed him that enjoyed his company. Planned activities for us: solo and with mutual friends.

[Summeroflove]

I think it’s more about if two people are compatible. As well as the morals and ethics of both people…. A man or woman of good moral and ethical standing will not tolerate someone who ain’t

[Avicenna]

Communicating well and being interesting should be enough

[ShadezMcgee]

We aren't circus monkeys, Ash. Because if we are playing that game, this is easily a setup for a man to be pushover for any woman because of their standards.

[MzAsh]

No one’s turning anyone into a circus monkey. Relax. This is about women looking for a partner willing to invest as much as she does. Why does this strike you as an unreasonable demand?

[ShadezMcgee]

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said it was being unreasonable. Cut that out right now.

If it was about women finding a partner and investing in her as much as she does, then say that. You came out of the gate saying "What actions must a man demonstrate he's worthy of being more than a casual interest?"

In this case you are already seeing men as not only lesser, but practically subservient out the gate because this is now saying women are looking at this from a power perspective, not one of mutual attraction or respect.

You say men need to prove themselves to women here, but women need to do the same for men.

When you start looking at it from the perspective of demands that he is even worth the time, it turns into a checkbox and list of things she wants or will ask of him, and all the while if he complies with everything or follows through to meet those demands, bet money she will not only be turned off by him, she will not be able to truly respect or love him because he did everything she asked and did not stand up for himself.

You are having women say to men "Jump" and expect men to say without hesitation "How high, ma'am?" And that is the issue. It is from a point of power.

I have seen you respond to numerous questions similar to this from other users and that a man must do the courting and I agree, but the issue is that when women have a list of insane standards that they need to have met, it is counterintuitive at the end of the day, because if a man doesn't check one box, she isn't going to give him the time of day. On top of that, she more than likely isn't reciprocating a fair return if she expects him to cater to her standards, why would she respect his?

[MzAsh]

I never suggested men are lesser or subservient, that’s your interpretation. What I am emphasizing here is that when a man’s interest is high, he’ll be eager to show he’s serious, just as women should be excited to reciprocate when they’re genuinely interested.

Consider their options available, it’s smart for women to discern who’s worth their time. This doesn’t mean women have to have insane standards. It means they have standards, period. And yes, those standards should be realistic and aligned with what they offer in return.

Men should of course stand up for themselves when necessary, but let’s not confuse standing up for oneself with refusing to make an effort.

[ShadezMcgee]

The question is how much effort is truly seen as effort at the end of the day for women. How much does a man need to show before she says, "Okay, maybe you are worthy of my time?" That is the problem. I am not insinuating that women shouldn't vet and discern who is a good fit out of the options they have, I am saying it becomes an issue when the man pretty much comes close to doing everything that should in theory be what women want, and no, I am not talking the bare minimum. I am saying all the things like properly courting her. Asking her out, showing up, being accountable, leading the interaction, being the best in his craft, having a large social circle, having his own house, car, good health physically and mentally, healthy self esteem, all of that.

Even if a man has ALL of that, a woman can just as easily toss him aside like a used toy the second he doesn't align with her standards and what did she give him in return? A chance. A simple chance, meanwhile the guy who could have been a solid dude is sitting there wondering what he did wrong. Guy has to go all out, she gets to sit back and watch.

What should women truly be doing in return for a man during this process, because you don't mention it here.

[MzAsh]

The effort should be substantial but reasonable, and should align with what both are looking for and can reciprocate.

Men need to develop a sharp sense of discernment to pursue a woman who is genuinely interested in a balanced relationship. If a man finds himself consistently going all out with little in return, it might be a sign to reevaluate the compatibility and intentions of the one he’s pursuing.

In terms of what women should do in return during the dating process, it’s about showing genuine interest and engagement. When a man invests his time and energy, a woman who values this will reciprocate with her own time, respect, and enthusiasm.

Also, understanding that not every dating effort will lead to a long term relationship is important. It doesn’t necessarily reflect a failing on anyone’s part. Sometimes it’s just a mismatch. The key for men and women alike is to continue developing and valuing their worth while also being willing to give genuinely and freely without an immediate guarantee of return.

[NathanDavis]

I never had to put on a show and demonstrate for nobody...

if you're interested, and I'm interested... then let's talk about it and we'll see how it goes

period

[MzAsh]

In a world where women have so many options, it’s natural for a man to want to work to step up and stand out. A man confident in what he offers naturally wants to demonstrate that.

[NathanDavis]

perhaps... that's how it is for the people who put themselves on the online dating market

that's where people actually have "so many options" to swipe left and right based on impressions and then they are like "okay... I liked your profile now you have to demonstrate if you are worth my time and try or if I swipe to the next "

and then, maybe yes... all those online confident men are more than willing the demonstrate to the online deal they signed up for

I however, live in a different world... and in my world, I am not an option of many, no... in my experience people approach me with an interest after they KNOW I am worth the time and more than their time too

[MzAsh]

Men by nature are an option of many to a woman of worth. It’s all in how you present yourself that conveys your worth.

[NathanDavis]

Davis... Nathan Davis

[MzAsh]

🤷🏻‍♀️

[NathanDavis]

with such a profile pic like that... and you don't know Bond? lmao...

[MzAsh]

I know Bond, silly.

[NathanDavis]

well, I don't know who she is but... she can certainly make look any vice look glamorous...

[MzAsh]

I thought so too ❤️

[Unit1]

If i knew and it isn't money, i'd be in a relationship with a real world girl right meow.

[Jerre]

I would take you out to dinner at the restaurant of your choosing, take you clubbing, go wherever you wanted to go, then back to my house for a great night of sex, eat you, suck your clit until you were exhausted from cumming

[andreasderjuengere]

I'm sorry - not:

I am not obliged to demonstrate that I'm ''worthy'' of... yes... of what?

I ''must'' nothing :)

[HungTexan]

I think kindness, attentiveness, and a look of lust in his eyes.

[Staximus]

Not looking for a woman who's looking for something casual

[Plugs]

Virgin , loyal

[Caroline91]

Be sincerely and unapologetically himself.

[Jennz6]

You must eat my kitty

[Jennz6]

@MzAsh
The guy should eat me

[Juxtapose]

Based.

[Jennz6]

@Juxtapose based?

[Juxtapose]

From google:

"Based" is a slang term that means to be yourself and not care what others think. It is often used as a form of agreement, especially in political discussions.

Origin:
Originally meant to be addicted to crack cocaine
Reclaimed by rapper little B to mean being yourself

Usage:
Used to agree with something, especially controversial topics
Short for "based in fact" or "based in reality"

[Jennz6]

@Juxtapose got it

[Jerre]

@jennz6 I would love to eat you, suck your clit, make you cum many times on my face and in my mouth

[Jennz6]

@Jerre you should do it

[Juxtapose]

Wow, a thirsty common got encouraged. Now I'm going to sit through another 1,000 thirsty comments until they get encouraged again.

[jahaims]

You're 40. Take what you can get.

[MzAsh]

I did that 18 years ago boo-boo

[es20490446e]

The action of no action.

[TonyMetal___86]

Loving you and caring about you for real!

[Juxtapose]

Being at least as good as a true friend.

[Wise4myage]

He will show much he cares by his actions.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Chivalry, kindness and lust.

[Chthou95]

Slay a dragon and bring you the head.

[TheBBCExperience]

He must add value into your life. Deliberately.