Honestly I have no idea how to think about this. Never heard about Ellen/Elliot Page before... If its true than just let him be. If its fake and for attention.. Yeah you know what happens in the media...
I think it's a good thing that transgender people are a reality. They bridge the gap of misunderstanding between men and women. I wish I had a whole album of screenshots like this so I could share them with women who are completely blind to the struggle of being a man.
Ill have to put it to the test some day. I’ve read so many stories just like this one though. I wish I had saved them all. I don’t really want to put in the work to go searching and collecting them lol.
I don't have much of an opinion on it other than too bad I always thought she was cute.. Now look at her in the second pic.. Crazy.. But they can do whatever they want..
I don’t understand it, but I suppose I don’t really need to. It’s his life and I respect his choice and the pronouns he chooses.
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You can either see it as a generation embracing previously unavailable freedoms of sexuality or a generation indulging a fashionable stance that will be gone in five years.
It always a tragedy when people call delusions a true self. You don't need surgery to be true, quite the opposite. Souls don't have genders, humans do...
It is in fact a mental disorder and has been studied and defined as such. It was removed as a mental illness most likely because of the violent nature of Trans movement. After all the Trans movement started with a riot. Sorry.. "Peaceful protest"
You can't convince a flat earther that the earth is round with all of the science and evidence we have. Yet you still have people that support flat earth.
@OmNomaly Not a flat earther but as some actually in the field it's been removed and they now teach in schools that it's not a mental disorder so umm yah
They are willingly mutilating their bodies to fit into "how they feel" I have nothing against Lesbian, Gays or Bisexuals.
We have big issues with prisoners now. Athletes etc. It is biologically unfair for folks that were born as males to compete against born females. You also have male rapists that are identifying as women and sent to womens prisons. Where they in turn go and sexual assault women. Everyone wants to be pro-human rights but noone wants to stop and think of the consequences and backlash of these options. If someone identified as a black male and they were a white male. As long as they identify as Trans, would that be acceptable and mean that they can wear black face if thats how they feel?
@nerdybutlazy Right they have the right to do these things now. One of the things I brought up in a different conversation. If a male identifies as a female and he is a female rapist, is it fairfor that individual to be kept in a female prison? Or would it make more sense to give them their own area for Trans female and trans male. Keep in mind redoing the penal system like that would cause financial stress on the prisons. I am not trying to argue if you assumed so. I am trying to understand folks thinking on the subject matter. There are other issues that follow people wanting to be transgender. It also begs the question. If someone is a straight female and they change into a man. The transgender individual does not disclose their gender they were born with and they have sex. Would that not be considered rape/entrapment?
@nerdybutlazy Just want to throw a tidbit in on top of my previous reply. How exactly is changing your skin color different than changing your gender? You are still changing a physical trait of your body that you were born with.
@OmNomaly I'm really not interested in debating over someone's sexual or gender indefintication if he choose to me seen as a male I respect it becuase his life isn't my own thus, it's not my business. I honestly didn't read your argument but I did notice the word prison and all I have to say to that is.. why did your mnid go there first?
society has more or less taught us that anyone queer is more or less a danger becuase they don't live has society sees fit and there's a lot of videos about that explaining how it's dumb. A transgender person again is more likely to be murdered before they turn 50 if anything they should be protected from us not the other way around but, I'll say it one last time I have no interest in arguing with people over this it's a waste of my time and yours, after all, the world could be so upset about it... doesn't stop him from being him
@nerdybutlazy I see that this isn't going to be an intellectual conversation more than it is an argument at this point. You just stated that you glanced over my comment and then chose to reply with a paragraph after you have been dropping sound bits. I am not going to explain myself twice if the effort isn't going to be reciprocated. If you has actually read my reply in full I would've been more than happy to continue the convo. Wish you well and we can just agree to disagree at this point in the conversation.
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Honestly I have no idea how to think about this. Never heard about Ellen/Elliot Page before... If its true than just let him be. If its fake and for attention.. Yeah you know what happens in the media...
Just another Hollywood celeb that has no real world struggle, and therefore creates it for herself. We shouldn’t be enabling mental illness.
I think it's a good thing that transgender people are a reality. They bridge the gap of misunderstanding between men and women. I wish I had a whole album of screenshots like this so I could share them with women who are completely blind to the struggle of being a man.
@Kaazsz Evidence is meaningless to them, only their own emotions are real, everything else is like a menagerie for them to play with.
Ill have to put it to the test some day. I’ve read so many stories just like this one though. I wish I had saved them all. I don’t really want to put in the work to go searching and collecting them lol.
@Kaazsz Chaz Bono did a documentary you might like, and Norah Vincent wrote a book that got made into a news report, look her up.
This didn't surprise me at all. She gave me those dude vibes a long time ago
I was just gonna post the same thing, but thought I’d jump on here instead.
No surprise to me at all.
Agreed even the way she walks and holds herself
I don't have much of an opinion on it other than too bad I always thought she was cute.. Now look at her in the second pic.. Crazy.. But they can do whatever they want..
I don’t understand it, but I suppose I don’t really need to. It’s his life and I respect his choice and the pronouns he chooses.
You can either see it as a generation embracing previously unavailable freedoms of sexuality or a generation indulging a fashionable stance that will be gone in five years.
The latter.
Not my life. I address people by whatever name they care to give. I hope they are happy.
Who, besides the triggered bigots of the Right, really cares?
You do you Eliot.
What am I supposed to think? Personally, it is none of my business, and won’t affect my daily life in any way.
Honestly don't care and i fed up of seeing about it everywhere. I think most people could see it coming
It always a tragedy when people call delusions a true self. You don't need surgery to be true, quite the opposite. Souls don't have genders, humans do...
I just accept it at this point, but I loved “Juno” and now I feel like I’m forced to consider it as a film about a teenaged boy getting pregnant 🤷🏻♂️
Bored. There's a lot of attention whores saying, "look at me! I'm special because of my sexuality". It's boring whether they're straight or not.
Gender Dysphoria, is a literal psychological disorder! To think that people would condone such a thing those people are insane!
Isn’t a sex change a cure for gender dysphoria? Are you against chemotherapy as a cure for cancer as well?
it's no longer considered a mental illness, look it up!
That's like saying "Go ahead and get your hands amputated so you can stop being a kleptomaniac.
And it actually is a mental illness I did look it up
Not really anymore
It is in fact a mental disorder and has been studied and defined as such. It was removed as a mental illness most likely because of the violent nature of Trans movement. After all the Trans movement started with a riot. Sorry.. "Peaceful protest"
You can't convince a flat earther that the earth is round with all of the science and evidence we have. Yet you still have people that support flat earth.
@OmNomaly Not a flat earther but as some actually in the field it's been removed and they now teach in schools that it's not a mental disorder so umm yah
They are willingly mutilating their bodies to fit into "how they feel"
I have nothing against Lesbian, Gays or Bisexuals.
We have big issues with prisoners now. Athletes etc.
It is biologically unfair for folks that were born as males to compete against born females.
You also have male rapists that are identifying as women and sent to womens prisons. Where they in turn go and sexual assault women.
Everyone wants to be pro-human rights but noone wants to stop and think of the consequences and backlash of these options.
If someone identified as a black male and they were a white male. As long as they identify as Trans, would that be acceptable and mean that they can wear black face if thats how they feel?
@OmNomaly race is a lot different from gender but again go off. He's doing what's best for him and they have the right to do so :)))
@nerdybutlazy Right they have the right to do these things now. One of the things I brought up in a different conversation. If a male identifies as a female and he is a female rapist, is it fairfor that individual to be kept in a female prison? Or would it make more sense to give them their own area for Trans female and trans male. Keep in mind redoing the penal system like that would cause financial stress on the prisons.
I am not trying to argue if you assumed so. I am trying to understand folks thinking on the subject matter.
There are other issues that follow people wanting to be transgender.
It also begs the question. If someone is a straight female and they change into a man. The transgender individual does not disclose their gender they were born with and they have sex.
Would that not be considered rape/entrapment?
@nerdybutlazy Just want to throw a tidbit in on top of my previous reply.
How exactly is changing your skin color different than changing your gender?
You are still changing a physical trait of your body that you were born with.
@nerdybutlazy Please elaborate on your responses. They seem a bit short for trying to see each others points. :)
Genuine insight, I crave it.
@OmNomaly I'm really not interested in debating over someone's sexual or gender indefintication if he choose to me seen as a male I respect it becuase his life isn't my own thus, it's not my business. I honestly didn't read your argument but I did notice the word prison and all I have to say to that is.. why did your mnid go there first?
society has more or less taught us that anyone queer is more or less a danger becuase they don't live has society sees fit and there's a lot of videos about that explaining how it's dumb. A transgender person again is more likely to be murdered before they turn 50 if anything they should be protected from us not the other way around but, I'll say it one last time I have no interest in arguing with people over this it's a waste of my time and yours, after all, the world could be so upset about it... doesn't stop him from being him
@nerdybutlazy I see that this isn't going to be an intellectual conversation more than it is an argument at this point. You just stated that you glanced over my comment and then chose to reply with a paragraph after you have been dropping sound bits. I am not going to explain myself twice if the effort isn't going to be reciprocated. If you has actually read my reply in full I would've been more than happy to continue the convo.
Wish you well and we can just agree to disagree at this point in the conversation.
I think it makes absolutely no difference to me and my life
Good for him for feeling confide t and comfortable enough to announce this
Attention seeking publicity stunt... If they're trying to normalise it why make a big fucking deal? Is for awards or medals?
Attention seeking like this disgusts me. What am I supposed to do or care about this?
Back in the day "queer" was a derogatory term. Why is it acceptable today?
If a person was born with a penis that person is a penis.
If a person is born with vagina that person is a female.
I support him fully and hope to see him in more things soon