What do you think of this song about incest?

[Julie4]

You have English subtitles. The singer was raped by her father.


https://youtu.be/nHWiw7lRdPQ?si=mZYF6gjtgLBnRt7U

[KostasKouvalis]

Jesus Christ, what kind of music do you listen to?😂

It's certainly much better than that horrendous rap song😂

It's actually a nice song, but I don't think there's anyway a listener could have known what it's actually about, without the singer telling them. It just sounds like a nice song about an eagle. People are saying their French teachers played it even😂

[Julie4]

Stop that rap song was extraordinary. I actually don't like this singer's voice 😂 but her lyrics are very beautiful. The eagle is a metaphor for her father.

[KostasKouvalis]

Yes, I kind of figured that one, but I was expecting something more straightforward.

I agree about her voice, it's very scratchy, but the melody is nice

[RavVid]

The allegory completely escapes me. I would not know it was about incest without you having said so. Is this a cultural difference between French and English speakers as there seems to a lot more allusion in French works.

[Julie4]

Well, in France we use metaphor. In this case, the eagle represents the father.

[RavVid]

Ah ok.

[love_conquers_lust]

She reminisced the day of her innocence. She appears to love her father remembering him as a majestic predator despite what he did. She has persevered and moved on, else she probably wouldn’t be able to write a song about it.

[BLP11520]

Depressing to watch

[Julie4]

Yes, but I think she manages to paint what she has lived with a lot of poetry. Her father in the song is the eagle.

[BLP11520]

I agree, maybe with some coffee I would enjoy it more 😊

[BLP11520]

Many songs tell a story. Those songs live on in our memories

[BLP11520]

I recently discovered Shivaree

[Julie4]

I don't know Shivaree, I'm going to listen to this. Yes it's a really sad song to be honest, but I think she manages to talk about her unhappiness in a very brave way. A French philosopher wrote "au plus profond de tes rides dort le souvenir de tes malheurs", and I think that sums up this song quite well.

[BLP11520]

Yes, Shivaree is just a break from the usual lyrics and her different voice I don’t know what genre she is in

[BLP11520]

I don’t know much French philosophy but some history and I know some of the language

[Julie4]

Sorry I didn't translate the FRENCH philosopher's sentence in English, in English he said "deep in your wrinkles, sleeps the memory of your misfortunes".

[BLP11520]

Profound. Thanks

[BLP11520]

Side note, my favorite French musician is Jean Luc Ponty from jazz fusion ers

[BLP11520]

Era.,,,,

[Julie4]

Oh, I don't know either lol. I'll have to listen to it too lol.

No problem ☺️ he's a French philosopher who was a professor in the USA at Stanford. He died quite recently.

[BLP11520]

Ok, electric violin player

[Andres77]

I never would have figured it out.

[Andres77]

My moms dad did that to her from infancy and would beat my grandmother into submission and make her watch. Evil evil evil.

[Julie4]

It's absolutely monstrous. Men who hurt women are not men and those who do this are just inhuman beings.

Yes, she says what she has experienced with great poetry. The eagle represents her father.

[Ifitbtbtb]

That really happens? I thought it was just a fantasy of a twisted man.