Why do people keep hating on normal female bodyweight?

[SotiCoto]

It would be too easy to blame it all on Hollywood, though they're especially guilty of it.
But I can't help but notice people in general have got really fucked up ideas about what is normal size for adult women. And the vast majority of blokes around here seem to routinely express attraction to women who look grotesquely underweight to me. Meanwhile if they see an ordinary woman of ordinary size like you'd find anywhere in the street, they call her "fat".
What kind of mental issue leads to this screwed up perception?
Is it just because all the actresses in TV and films are basically anorexic on account of unrealistic standards perpetuated within the industry... and that is somehow being presented as normal to the viewers?

[MemeSupreme]

only men do it online bc they're incels or trolling and only women do it in-person. ik im generalizing but its usually true lol

a lot of it is our culture. like as a kid, i vividly remember my ballet instructor telling a girl she could see her lunch. another example, at my school I was called me anorexic yet my mom would say i was fat bc she didn't like her body. some people just attack you for whatever to hurt you

you can't make everyone happy

[Abbycado]

No idea. I have friends that are just average as far as toned. I don’t hate.

[Levin]

Weird, I kind of have the opposite view.

Men on here seem to venerate quite overweight women.

Bear in mind that 2/3s of Americans are overweight. 40% are obese. It's impossible of them to have healthy conceptions of what is normal.

I think we need to go back to 1950s views of what the body should be, or Korean, Chinese or Japanese beauty standards. It's not just about aesthetics, but health.

[SotiCoto]

They don't. Men here routinely make disparaging comments about anyone who isn't a skeleton. Malnourishment isn't healthy. And women looked utterly ridiculous in the 1950s.

[Bellalova]

Mh i don't agree that we should go back to Korean, Chinese or Japanese beauty standards. That standard is underweight which isn't healthy aswell, besides these countries get recommended to have a lower bmi because of theirmetabolic risk structure profiles, this is different than in the USA. I am not saying it's healthy that 2/3s of Americans are overweight, absolutely not, but the beauty standards from the countries you mentioned aren't healthy either...

[Levin]

@Bellalova I mean, of course, I'm not advocating anorexia. But if I see women from those countries here, they're generally just slim. They're healthy and vital looking. You don't have to equate being slim, or having a low body fat percentage, with being anorexic. Overall, the problem in Western countries, the health problem, is with being overweight, it's not from being slim.

[najekim]

Don't forget the fashion industry is just as "guilty" as Hollywood. Their brainwashing continues to this day, especially about clothing women should be wearing, even though not actually needed.

[OneViewpoint]

Depends what you're calling "ordinary weight". Since you haven't defined it, you've stated a subjective opinion and left the discussion open to everyone else's subjective opinion. It's like 2 blind people trying to tell each other what an octopus looks like. Where's that gonna go? How useful is that discussion?

Using this US Body Mass Index diagram I'd say they got it right. The Normal body shape looks fit and healthy. That's the type of woman I find attractive. I'm not really into stick thin or fat women.

Unfortunately in the US, the average adult female looks more like the Overweight or Obese body shape these days. Is the average the new "Normal"? Or are a large number of women no longer "Normal" these days?

Examples...

Everyone here looks healthy and attractive to me.

Not healthy or attractive to me. Disturbing.

Not healthy or attractive to me. Just no!

[4ngelic]

i dont know the full reason, but i know it's pretty recent. it dates back to the 90s. before that the ideal body for woman was a healthy & toned body that wasn't too fat or too thin. even runway models pre 90s used to be quite healthy, especially in the 80s. it's since the 90s they became all stick thin. i know the whole 90s model era was huge in making underweightness trendy and hot.

[MuddyMole]

If you live in the UK or USA, an "ordinary woman of ordinary size" is fat. That's a fact. The majority (about two-thirds) of women are overweight, and a quarter are obese. And that's not normal - those are numbers that have risen sharply in recent decades.

Obviously, there are serious health implications to being overweight, but it also impacts your ability to enjoy leisure activities and daily life. Those "grotesquely underweight" women are almost certainly healthier and enjoy a more active and interesting lifestyle.

Not being overweight is not an unrealistic beauty standard. You don't have to be anorexic or live in the gym - you just have to exercise a small amount of self control.

[SotiCoto]

Doubt. Regarding the second paragraph. I mean there may be serious health issues for the morbidly obese, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking less than half of that. And spending your free time in a gym trying to look like a skeleton isn't "a more interesting lifestyle". Even calling it "more active" is a stretch. They're not going anywhere.

[MuddyMole]

Who said anything about a gym? Just exercising a tiny amount of self-control when it comes to diet and exercise is all it takes. I'm an outdoor instructor - I take people (mainly beginners) on guided trips, including sea kayaking, coasteering, paddleboarding, skiing, mountain biking, etc. I've seen what fit, healthy people look like, and I know what they are physically capable of, compared to overweight and obese people. I myself never set foot in a gym, but I'm healthy (and a healthy weight) because I have an active lifestyle. Overweight people are overweight because they do *nothing*. If they had hobbies that kept them active (playing sports etc) they wouldn't be overweight - it really is that simple. Instead, the most common hobbies among women are things like going out to restaurants/bars to socialize, watching tv, cooking, reading, fashion. They might do yoga, which has its benefits, but it's not the kind of cardio exercise that will help you lose weight.

[HighValue]

Many of them are FAT! Very fat. Be honest instead of trying to kiss up to the many lazy fat women. They bring very little value to a man's life in the first place so the least they should do is not be fat. How about the fat women date guys 5' 6" and shorter that only make minimum wage? That would be fair wouldn't it? Low value deserves low value.

[SotiCoto]

Why would you want to get rid of the best thing about them? Your opinion is trash.

[cora1]

Men who live online do this. All they know of is photoshop and they have probably never seen a human in months.

[leahzrc]

I dont watch tv much but I am skinny kind of sexy and people will still look at me and think I am too skinny. My body is normal to me. Does this help?

[soe11]

• I'm not one of them.
• Normal sizes are fine.
• I respect all females regardless of size and colours.

[WonderingManII]

I feel that also instagram beauties also distort a man's sexual attraction to women.

[leahzrc]

and the editing on the photos does not help lol

[WonderingManII]

@leahzrc I want real women. Someone that really loves, you know?

[leahzrc]

As a real women. We have to let go of social media and turn away from lust. If you have this type of media and are aware of whats on it and still keep it, maybe you aren't ready to be loved yet.

[WonderingManII]

@leahzrc If you are right, than I will never be ready for love. But at least I'm halfway through life, and almost to the grave. Peace is in the grave.

[leahzrc]

I can maybe offer you words of condolences

[leahzrc]

But nah

[WonderingManII]

@leahzrc Troll.

[Ironco]

Looks are important, but it has never stopped me from dating. I've dated women of all sizes, it's her personality and humor I'm attracted to.

[Batsy01010101]

Hate to burst your self righteous bubble but I'm not going around judging other people's bodies i have better things to do with my time

[Staximus]

Normal female bodyweight is not fat. There's small framed, big framed, but fat is fat. A woman can be big but not fat at the same time.

[SotiCoto]

People don't know what fat is. They call normal fat. They call actual fat worse things.

[blackeagle007]

Women are critical of other women. Beats me

[PrettyCrumblBb]

Most Westerns are overweight.