Do Modern Day Women Lack Class?

[Zina99]

I'm 27, and I feel like modern day girls lack class. I was raised by more traditional and much older parents who raised me to dress properly (I get fitted for bras and underwear every so often), have manners, say, "yes ma'am or no sir" to older folks, know the importance of first impressions and the importance of being a lady in public places. I just see young women these days being so vulgar, scantily dressed, messy just woke up hair, so sexual, don't know how to cook, clean or act. I remember watching older movies growing up and thinking women had their stuff together back then. Also, women of all colors had their hair in pin curls, buns or nicely coiffed. My friends always wonder how I get guys to do nice things for me and treat me well without having sex. It's because I have self-respect (and I know how to pick them lol). Also, I can entertain a man with more than just sex, I always give good conversation and laughs about various things like politics, education, different styles of music, religion and science. I believe the reason why men don't treat women like they use to, is because women these days have no self-respect. I think women need to wake-up because every woman becomes a mother someday and will eventually have to reflect on her actions, and how her past and present bad behaviors affects her children. I do get that women have to work and get an education, but the girls that I see acting unladylike are JUST students and have nothing more going on to prevent them from learning proper behavior.

[med11]

I think it's less about class and more about the modern day break down of the family unit. Let me explain:

America currently has (2013 census) around a 58% rate of children growing up in broken homes with, typically, the Father not only being gone but usually not even having a single thing to do with the child. For young girls, it is crucial they have that male influence to not only offer them security as they age but also to teach them the basics on how to spot deceptive men, how to take loss of relationship and most importantly to raise their confidence, make them feel beautiful/important & to teach them that they do not need to have sex to land a top notch guy but that a top notch guy will be able to see through them with general ease and thus will love them for them. From there, and they age, they will typically have lowered self esteem which leads to depression, seeming "lack of class" (as you stated), have a low sense of belonging and direction & most of all will continue the cycle (in the majority of cases) to the next generation thus furthering the issue at an even greater level.

I can go into much greater detail here but point being, what you noticed is correct but the issue isn't simply an issue about someone lacking class and, more precisely, is an issue of women not learning proper relationship and functional interactions due to the loss of the aforementioned. Modern day men are equally showing signs but they exude them in different ways. Long story short, it is a major issue and I agree that the devolution has become obvious at this point.

[Encolpius]

I agree!

[med11]

Well stated on your statement as well. In terms of your final paragraph I think the issue goes much deeper. The rise of agenda laden media and news organizations has created a vacuum of people being looked down upon if they either have a faith based life and/or (and this is very important) disagree with said agenda. It has gotten to the point that to even disagree with someone now places a person at risk to be considered a racist, sexist, homophobic, or bad meanie head. However, if the script is flipped and the agenda does something outrageous, attention is either not called to it or it is only mildly covered. Example, see the Zimmerman case vs similar cases with differing races, the ultra radicalized feminist movement and their treatment of people & the wide open and clear attack on Christianity while leaving other religions alone and not even mentioning their name out of fear they may be "offended".

[med11]

Now those issues, alone, would not (on its face) appear to have much to do with the question posed but I feel they all do. Point being, the world has shifted drastically to a "be quiet, agree with my agenda even if you don't, or else..." type of setting. This has caused traditional and moral fiber to decay and said women are being caught in the whirlwind and thus lashing out due to both frustration and the fact that top end males are, typically and more consistently, avoiding marriage all together now thus leaving the women to fend for themselves while having to pick from what they would normally not even consider.

[Encolpius]

I agree that many modern women have abandoned class. Men are to blame as well for allowing it to happen. It's a vicious circle: women put out to keep their men interested, and men get used to "getting the milk for free," so to speak, and have little incentive to refuse. Society has embraced secularism and radical feminism and the idea that religion is out-dated. I wouldn't be surprised if someone tries to take "under God" out of the pledge of allegiance (and yes I'm aware that it was only added in the 20th century during the Red-scare days of the cold war).

Young feminists have embraced this notion that promiscuity = liberation (see the proliferation of the "Slut Walk" movement for an example). TV shows like "Sex and the City" glorify sleeping around. College campuses around the country are turning into hotbeds of radical feminism where ANY dissenting opinions are shouted down and demonized as patriarchal and misogynistic. Our young people are put into this meat grinder, and it's no surprise that they come out without any morals.

There are still traditional people out there trying to cling to the old-fashioned values that made us so great in the past. We just aren't given much airtime in the mainstream media.

[Encolpius]

If you look at the history of the Soviet Union, they used feminism in the early days to break down the traditional Russian family unit. It was so successful that they had to stamp it out not too long afterwards.

[milafox]

Being classy is one thing, gender roles are another. I don't think women should act a certain way and I detest gender roles. Not every women becomes a mother -- not every woman wants to be a wife or a mother (I don't, for example)

I think self respect manifests itself in different ways, after all, it is SELF respect, so no one else really defines what that is for one individual.

''Being a lady'' is fine and fair enough, if that is how you are, but not everyone wants to behave this way, it's just not who they are as people. Being true to yourself to oneself is more important than facade.

Things like Finishing Schools are still used for the upper class (at least where I live) but for most people, this just isn't relevant anymore and represents a generation that has been and is mostly gone.

Personally, I don't think men need to be gentleman or women need to be ladies, they just need to embrace who they are and go be it. I value that much more.

[rthomas43]

Thank you :)

[justbanANNAz]

ur right... most do unfortunately...

i respect u tho, i loveeee women like that! iv always felt i was born at the wrong time-.- i follow many of the same values u do, and indeed people are baffled by it, as if sex is like a golden ticket to win a man over...

men also love intelligence, manners, self respect as u say... just dignity. a sense of value. like we're actually worth something and not just a sexual object to be tampered with. we can let men into our minds but will by no means let them trod upon us. they can give their opinion but that by no means indicates that ours is of less importance. when a man knows that ill deal with him out of respect, he finds that fascinating, says I'm different and deals with me accordingly. call it old fashioned if u will, but i love it :)

[pr3ttybr0wn]

i agree with a lot of what you have to say. im not really a fan of the "you must be a lady at all times" pov bcause i think its so restricting. i love to turn up and be wild every now and then but i know how and when to turn it off.. but there is a lot to be said about bringing elegance and charm to the table. sometimes i look at some women who leave the house in bonnets and pajama pants and think wtf? but there is nothing wrong with a woman enjoying her sexuality and showing off her body if she wants. there isn't just one way to be a woman if u respect urself.

[Makeuphoarder]

I too was raised to respect myself and have manners. I have witnessed these type of women that you speak of , making sexual jokes. I feel embarrassed for them and just remind myself that I have no control over what they say , do or act. Most of these women are married and in relationships.. Maybe they like the attention or think it is harmless. You cannot teach someone to be classy or to have self respect. On a positive note, we know women like us still exist. Unfortunately we are a dying breed.

[skeptic007]

not to sound rude your gonna hear a lot of good things for girls and guys from what you've written, but all of that was boring as hell, ill tell you the truth people are gonna do what they want at the end of the day, i mean just read 90% of whats up on this site, everyone's asking advice on how to get laid quicker, girls wanna know how to talk to this guy so they can have sex, and guys asking girls advice to fuck some girl there talking to
this site is one big fuck fest, so what your saying really doesn't mean anything, plus its not in our nature to be everything you just said

[EnergyAZ]

I agree with you Zina!

Ironically, you will see on dating ads "Looking for a REAL man" and most of these women dont know how to be ladies themselves!

Anyhow Zina - we are just glad there are still women like you - keep it up, enlighten some of your sisters! If a woman is looking for a premium male, she needs to be a premium female. No more narcisistic half-wit divas!! Should be common sense but... lol

... although I am all for women dressing sexy if they can pull it off! ;-)

[Dharmabummin]

I think how we carry ourselves as women comes from how our mothers and grandmothers carried themselves. My grandmother was rough around the edges but I was never really around her. My stepmother was all about class, poise, and grace. As much as I detested this woman who raised me (at the time) , I absolutely ended up emulating her as a woman. Not intentionally mind you.

I also agree with the other comments. Despite being raised by my stepmother, and being abandoned by my biological mother, my father was still very much around. All I ever really heard how I should conduct myself like a lady (while of course, he sweared like a sailor).

Again, we are very much a product of our environment. So while I almost always look put together, and confident. Even having 10 years of college under my belt I still swear like my father lol.

I always say, I’m classy… enough 😂.

[Anonymous]

Most don't have anything that even resemble class. To be fair most men and women lack class. This is likely always been the case, and doesn't have anything to do with modern day. Often the same complaints I hear about men and women in modern days, are the same things men and women were complaining about hundreds of years ago. The fact is most people don't give respect, or do anything to deserve respect.

[ForeverFSixteen]

As cliché as this sounds I really do believe every woman is a Queen but not every woman has realised this. Once you realise who you are, you begin to treat yourself accordingly.

That is all.

[parkway]

Yes modern women have little to no class and it is a learnt behavior.

If you speaking of American women you must take into account that God is illegal in the USA. So anything good is seen as not fanshionable.

[Encolpius]

Sadly, this is the truth about mainstream American culture.

[Letstrend]

I wish I could give this a big thumbs up, very well said. Being only 17 myself, I feel exactly the same way.

[Gegalix]

Yes, yes, and yes! Hey feminists! What have you done to give women the class they had when the original feminists were around!

[edsheeran]

Yes. But i believe it's just because girls these days think that the classy look is only for old people

[decemberxblue]

Of course. Dances that were considered "slutty" in the 1940s are like Sesame Street compared to Twerking, for example.

[rthomas43]

Modern SOCIETY lacks class.

[Encolpius]

Amen, brother.

[Gegalix]

True, but American society seems to have higher standards for men nowadays. It used to be the opposite.

[milafox]

Dude, that beard is awesome.

[Longshot]

God, are you available? :)

[Ghosty]

Spread your word milady. Way to go.