I feel like western women are romantically attracted to femininity but sexually attracted to masculinity?

[Gangactivities911]

Like especially the younger generation and more liberal women which is most of them like aren’t romantically attracted to masculinity or something. They always end up in relationships with feminine men or other women. It’s kinda bizarre to me. What do u guys think of this?

[cute_short_nerd]

I paint my boyfriend's nails... Stoner, not the skin and bones one this boy looks like a fully grown black man but he's younger than me and the manliest of guys. But I can paint his nails and do his eyeliner. Maybe we just like guys who are confident enough in their masculinity that doing feminine things don't bother them. That's the thing. If you spend your whole life hating everything feminine that at some point will include women and that is why a vast majority of the older generation get no bitches because their boomer dad's wouldn't do so much as let them have stickers as a kid. Honestly it pains me to see the lack of maiden presence in y'all's lives I'm sorry about ya dad but you can't act like women are always the problem. No shame in therapy, no shame in taking some time to care for yourself. You ain't gotta be perfect you just gotta try and be better that's all the ladies look for.

[Gangactivities911]

They don’t like muscular guys. They like skinny guys who dress well and are into makeup. That’s kinda feminine u have to admit. That’s not stereotypically masculine is it?

[cute_short_nerd]

Nah this man is a beast and can throw me around like a paper airplane. Boys sitting around a good muscular 250, 5'6-5'7 he's into football and cars and shit. We like guys who are comfortable enough in their masculinity to do things out of the societal norm. I put makeup on a convicted felon as a child and I used to paint my father's nails too, and he would wear every bracelet I gave him till it broke. Manly men that do feminine things because they value someone else's happiness to the point they put their ego to the side and do stuff like paint their nails. I mean maybe you could stop dressing like Adam Sandler and scroll through Pinterest to get a more modern style, darkwear is pretty popular in the city and I know a lot of girls like that. You should try it.

[Gangactivities911]

I guess maybe I get the brunt of this cuz Goth and emo girls are like this to the extreme I don't know if I ever met one that I’ve seen date a muscular guy

[cute_short_nerd]

Plot twist, I'm emo and my boyfriend is muscular.

[Gangactivities911]

Like ok I’m not saying guys can’t be at all masculine and still be attractive to a lot of women. It really depends on the woman. I do still think tho that over half of western women are turned off by a guy that is too masculine. Buzz cut. Isn’t into fashion is conservative etc. if a guy is too stereotypically masculine a lot of women won’t want him. Like he has to have some feminine interests. Emo as a genre of music after all is kinda feminine u have to admit. And I’m into emo music too by the way. But whenever I talk to emo girls I feel like me being really conservative and me being someone who doesn’t think with my heart and me I don't know just generally seeing the world too much like a guy does makes dating them near impossible because it makes it hard to build a genuine connection with them if that makes sense

[NobodyXox]

For me this is true. I like more feminine guys. Or at least guys who aren't afraid of being perceived as gay, a guy who can communicate and talk about his emotions.
And I like al women, they can be either masculine or feminine.

[Gangactivities911]

I’m into fashion and makeup I’m better at fashion and makeup than most women tbh but I’m tall and muscular at least in terms of mbti and big 5 I have an extremely male oriented personality type I feel like girls just don’t find my personality attractive cuz of it

[NobodyXox]

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Can you maybe explain what you mean by a male oriented personality type?

[Gangactivities911]

Men tend to be more introverted, more able to separate their emotions from their thoughts and actions. More down to earth and less organized on average. I feel like the way I see the world is very much like a guy. Like I’m conservative and I feel like I approach life much more like a guy than a girl. This makes dating modern women especially the ones in my social circles the alternative goth girls difficult because they don’t understand me and I don’t really understand them but I think I’m learning to slowly. But it’s weird cuz I’m like an alternative goth metal type of guy so I don't know what other girls I’m supposed to go for.

[NobodyXox]

That just something I really envy. I'm also an introvert myself so I have no problems with a guy being too. But I have a hard time separating my emotions from my thoughts or actions. I think it can be a nice quality. And I dont like organized people either haha, I'm all for happy chaos.
But there must be conservative girls that will fit you perfectly fine. But yeah it's hard because most of them are probably the alternative type.
You don't look alternatives at all? It is what I imagine thinking about people who listen to that kind of music.

[Gangactivities911]

I’m like super goth and emo and I do look like it but there aren’t any conservative goth or emo girls that I know. And most conservative girls find it unattractive that I’m into fashion and makeup. And goth girls Are usually super liberal and get offended if you don’t share their views. They’ll want u to refer to them as he when they are obviously and clearly a girl. It’s like I don't know what to say lol.

[NobodyXox]

Oof yeah, that would be a huge turn off for me as well.

[Gangactivities911]

I see liberal girls as a red flag anyways tbh. They don’t tend to take dating and commitment as seriously in my opinion

[ChrisMaster69]

Yeah all those guys at Aldershot (Parachute Regiment) and Lympstone (Royal Marines) struggling like fuck to get off with girls. They are not out every weekend on the pull…. and pulling girls.

What a load of bollox 😂😂😂😂

[EmmaMary]

@chrismaster69

You need to remember that the "Asker" comes from a different planet, therefore he's not going to have heard of the places you've mentioned. 😂😂😂

[Gangactivities911]

I don't know I think women are very split on this. Half of women like masculine men but they tend to be more traditional and conservative. Where as the Non-traditional and more liberal women are more-so attracted to femininity. My ex told me before that guys can’t be “too-masculine” or they aren’t attractive anymore. Look at male models a lot of them are not masculine at all. Most of the best paid male models in the world look pretty feminine. I think young western women are more attracted to feminity which sounds bizzare but it’s becoming hard to deny and u consider myself to be more masculine tbh

[Gangactivities911]

@EmmaMary also u didn’t read my post very well cuz I specifically said romantically attracted hooking up with women doesn’t require romantic attraction like a relationship does

[EmmaMary]

@Gangactivities911

Just carry on believing your own bullshit... Goodbye.

[ChrisMaster69]

@Gangactivities911 maybe in what ever 3rd world country you come from.

Here we don’t really give a shit.

People can be how they want to be.

A guy can be ‘masculine’ and as @cute_short_nerd says, have his nails done by his girlfriend.

Who the fuck cares what models or celebs do?

People in the real world have far more important things to worry about.

I would also challenge anyone to work out what masculine is in the normal real world.

I would spend more time in the real world.

[cute_short_nerd]

@ChrisMaster69 my boyfriend was hesitant to get his nails done but he said that it was enjoyable because whenever he felt nervous he could just look at his hand and remind himself that someone cared enough to take the time out of their day to do that just for him, and that made him feel loved, not feminine. Not less than a man. This is the same man who held a dying child while he was still a child himself, the same guy who told me he'd kill if someone touched me wrong, the same person who's told me time and time again he'd take bullets to see me smile. I get to paint his nails. Use this information as you will.

[cute_short_nerd]

Convincing guys to paint their nails is my favorite past time

[ChrisMaster69]

@cute_short_nerd I fully agree with you, it’s about being confident on who you are. Masculinity is not a 1 and 0 thing, it’s a thing we move around, one moment it and be hugely masculine, the next just normal, it’s still the same person.

[Gangactivities911]

I live in the us and who care what’s models do? As if that’s not a perfect reflection of what women find attractive.

[Gangactivities911]

Every goth girl I know is dating a feminine guy or a girl or is single I can’t think of one who is dating a stereotypically masculine guy

[cute_short_nerd]

@Gangactivities911 paint your nails black and stop dressing like Adam Sandler and maybe you would get some ladies.

[Gangactivities911]

Ur also 40 years old so I don't know why ur qualified to speak on young women today. And the level of defensiveness is telling.

[EmmaMary]

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