What is wrong with women?

[AnusNdaPainus]

Seriously who gave women this inferiority complex and made them feel they need to compete with men

[WillNye]

Well first of all this is extreme generalization, there are an immense amount of women from different cultures who want different things. There are cultures who are fine with being second to their husbands and cultures where matriarchy is prominent. Secondly, it’s not as simple as inferiority complexes. Some parts of the world women feel dominated and treated unfairly by the systems set in place in their community. It’s not always a focus on being better than a man sometimes it’s about receiving the same benefits, privileges, and opportunities men receive so they pursue this with understandable fierceness. I’m guessing you are witnessing a trend of feminism that goes against your values. If you don’t like it just ignore and find someone who agrees with you. Don’t try to convince them or stop their movement if they don’t just move on. Like i said this generalization doesn’t apply to all women, i’ve met plenty who agree with being more submissive.

[AnusNdaPainus]

Generalization are valid.
Most women prefer male leadership
The majority beats the minority esp when you can’t even identify these so called many cultures

Why are you even talking about women who don’t even make up a fraction of the population

[WillNye]

You’re joking, there’s a whole major religion that supports this type of dynamic. You should get out of the states. The social progression is clearly too much for you. And i see you’re relying on your gut feeling for statistics.

[AnusNdaPainus]

Then why can’t you name them?
Do you fear being incorrect that much?

[AnusNdaPainus]

That’s how we learn

[WillNye]

Bruh, you literally made a generalization to complain about women as a whole competing with men, and my response was that there a lot of women who prefer submissiveness. to which you made a counter argument agreeing? What are you even talking about. Reading is simple. A portion of the population doesn’t have to be majority to want something different for themselves. As for the feminist in the states that have you feeling insecure, they don’t want to be a part of your desire to be dominant, get over it lmao.

“ By July 2022, this list includes Sweden (2014), Canada (2017), France (2019), Mexico (2020), Spain (2021), Luxembourg (2021), Germany (2021) and Chile (2022). The Netherlands and Belgium are in the process of developing their respective feminist foreign policies. In the UK, three different political parties have pledged that they will pursue this if in power. In 2021, the first female foreign minister of Libya announced her intention of pursuing a feminist foreign policy at the Generation Equality Forum in 2021. In January 2022, the Swedish Foreign Minister announced a Feminist Foreign Policy Plus Group that currently includes sixteen countries.”

“Janmohamed created #TraditionallySubmissive as a way to counteract the idea that Muslim women are submissive. More than 33,000 people…”

“The Minangkabau people are a part of the largest surviving matriarchal society encompassing approximately four million people as of 2017. The common belief in this culture is that the mother is the most important person in society. Women rule the domestic realm of life.”

“The social organization of the Akan people (population 20 million) is built around the matriclan. Within the matriclan, identity, inheritance, wealth, and politics are all decided. As the name would have it, matriclan founders are female.”

Women aren’t bound to rules you prefer kid. find you a submissive woman and leave the feminist alone stop being butthurt

[AnusNdaPainus]

You are the one getting defensive over me simply asking you to explain what cultures you are talking about

Because matriarchal societies are still ran by men because men give women their rights women have no rights without men

So like I said the generalization is valid

[msmissydc]

You dont! Other real men have no problems with feminists. If you have a problem with us maybe its on you?

[AnusNdaPainus]

Clearly a lot of men have a problem if they are refusing to date these types of women

Why would a man choose an argumentative combative woman or a feminine submissive woman

Real women have no problem submitting

[msmissydc]

WTH... What does being feminin to do with feminism? Real man treat people with respect. "Clearly"? I see a lot of real men having no problem at all with feminism and even support it. I mainly see internet trolls and incels having problem with feminist.

[AnusNdaPainus]

You’ve never been a man you have no idea what a real man is

[msmissydc]

Oh so you were a women. So what is wrong with women that you decided not to be anyone anymore?

[msmissydc]

Sorry I just assumed because you said I dont know what a real men is because I never was one and you know what a real women is from your own words.

[AnusNdaPainus]

Yep because real women are the ones that all the men want

[msmissydc]

Hahahah and you are all men? You know a married feminist would be a destroying your whole argument? Someone like me.

[AnusNdaPainus]

No it wouldn’t because generalizations are still valid

I clearly have a much better understanding of what men want than you do

[Anonymous]

Oh you mean you want "The Loving, Happy, And Kind Women" who will kiss your ass all the time?

[AnusNdaPainus]

Who will cooperate and obey.
It’s not that complicated and it’s asking for way less than what women expect from men

[Opinion Owner]

Men are vile and mean when you don't give them sex.

[AnusNdaPainus]

Exactly so give him sex. Plain and simple.

[Opinion Owner]

It's discusting when demanded.

[AnusNdaPainus]

So give it.

[AnusNdaPainus]

What aren’t you understanding?

[Opinion Owner]

Ewww.

[AnusNdaPainus]

What are you a child? Adults have sex it’s normal
Men like pussy women like dongs

Grow up ma’am

[Opinion Owner]

Thanks gag, for MHO

[Beautyblossom2]

Men these days mostly don't even deserve "loving, kind, happy" women, n especially the ones that actively demand/speak, asking for one like as if they're entitled.. They're better with "angry, feminist" ones bcz both of them can balance each other out by toleraing each other's traits.
Most of such women, that you're mentioning, would be mentally ruined if they get a man like that (who demands such traits to already be present for him). They deserve a man who's also like them (happy, kind, loving, respectful), the one that doesn't mind going against his ego to naturally bring out these qualities in her.

[AnusNdaPainus]

Is it most men or just the ones that most women pick?

How many men have you heard of leaving a woman because she was “too nice” ?

She was too good to me man cooking for me , telling me she loves me, hugging me , she never argues with me I just couldn’t handle it

Bfrfr

[AnusNdaPainus]

Women have ruined their marriages because a guy was too nice

[Beautyblossom2]

No guy leaves a woman cuz she's too nice. But they could (like there's a tendency in men) to leave one when they find another one who's hotter (even if she's the best wife in all possible ways). Just how no woman leaves a man cuz he's too loving, caring. But they do have a tendency when they find another one who's richer. Basically, it's both the ways

[Beautyblossom2]

You can never ever.. In an argument.. make men as the poor innocent ones & women as the villains. By generalising. Because things usually always go both the ways. Both genders have good amt of their issues & both can think "our gender has it worse" by giving ample reasons

[AnusNdaPainus]

This is the female equivalent of “ Women don’t want me because I’m too short”

It shows that you don’t really understand who men are

Just like how it’s not because a guy is too short
but because he lacks the traits that women find attractive

[AnusNdaPainus]

Women blame men when they have made zero effort to try and understand who men are what we like and what we want

[Beautyblossom2]

I have been in a situation. And most of my female friends have been in a situation. Where WE were actively the ones putting efforts in a relationship & the guy was the one playing games or acting timid. I, for months, pursued a guy who took it for granted n continued his shenanigans, & now when I'm done, he's writing me love letters n begging me to come back. No, don't even try to come up with "maybe you could've..." I really am in the right side, even he'd admit this.. He really has nothing to defend himself. I went full vulnerable. I asked him all his favourites. Memorized all his habits n everything. The place where I come from, and the media that I've seen, I have seen enough examples of women getting treated such way too.. Like from my pov, my 'generalisation' would be different than yours

[Beautyblossom2]

For your 1st message, I gave the perfect reply... 'good wife' isn't actually the trait that men find attractive in a 'pursuing' way. It's more of like a trait that's attractive in a 'keeping' way. Just how 'money or stability' is usually what attracts a women not really his 'loving/caring' qualities.. Otherwise both the genders have 2/10 or 4/10 who'd easily be good wife/husbands.

[Beautyblossom2]

I've seen many guys sitting with their dudes on a platform like twitch or discord or clubs.. Generalising women like they've seen all the sides.. Smh.. Like come on.. You ever went n exposed yourself to nerdy girls? Or the girls who are doing social work n all? Generalisations should be considered 'generalisations' only while keeping in mind it's YOUR genrlzn. ONLY + the possibility of exceptions.

[AnusNdaPainus]

That term “ good wife “ is double positive grammar
Because a wife is already a good thing

You can’t be a good wife at something you weren’t even raised to be

Look at it like hunting you can’t catch it if you’re using the wrong bait

What is marriage to you?

[AnusNdaPainus]

Generalizations are valid we are more alike than anything else

Often people who have issues with generalizations never clearly explain/ define their own experiences

[Beautyblossom2]

Ok fine, if generalisations are fine then i think i should accept yours (despite it being different from my own obsvns) and just simply reply to your next line.. "Women blame men when they have made zero effort..." usually i think if they're going for 'blaming' instead of staying quiet (when, as u say, they're clearly in the 'wrong'), I think it's going to be interesting to listen to her reasoning behind the blaming.. If she makes some sense, then communicate otherwise, don't n move on?😅 I have no idea how else to reply to this.. Maybe "ok sorry we're a crappy gender. You win"? lol

[AnusNdaPainus]

No because that’s divisive
No one is winning when men and women are at each others throats

We complement each other we work better together than we do apart but there is too much money to be made from keeping men and women apart

Generalizations aren’t something I just made up it’s an objective truth

[Beautyblossom2]

Yeah.. generalisations are objective truth. And when subjectivity comes, it's a personal opinion. It's just that I didn't feel "women do zero efforts" is really an objective truth.. I mean sure, the 2nd part, 'blaming men', nagging n complaining could be😂. The way I thought, a married woman's entire life is considered to be for her man. Her efforts then are immeasurable. Also when girls are starting out in the dating world, they're taking it quite seriously. So they do make active efforts unless obv.. they're shy.

[AnusNdaPainus]

It’s not that they don’t make efforts it’s that they make the wrong efforts

Because unfortunately someone lied to women and now you gals believe you can have your cake and eat it too when you can’t

Because what men find attractive will not change modern women are not willing to accept our standards no matter how simple they are

[Beautyblossom2]

That's why 'compatibility' is one factor while choosing a partner. All women are very different people & can have very different sides.. All you want is a submissive one.. N don't worry, majority of modern women are still that way too. Despite being career oriented or feminists.. Being an "angry, bossy, unhappy" one, is a completely different thing. And you don't have to choose them.. And people's personalities depend a lot on their upbringing, past, traumas, conditioning, choices, career, life demands, etc. That's y some people (women) are the way they are.. People cannot always fit in one shape. Caring about societal pressure n "what men need" is not really smth too big for women these days bcz we're not living in war times. Women these days can support themselves so settling, turning submissive n pleasing a man is not exactly a priority. If u want women to go back to the way they were, take away all the women's rights. But that's not gonna happen. Society's not going to regress now. It's the reality.

[AnusNdaPainus]

Women have been convinced to please their bosses instead of their husbands

Women can’t survive without men the older women get the harder it will be for them to live but most women now will have to work until they die

Haven’t you noticed or seen how many older women are still working and that’s sad because all it will take is one injury or another round of COVID and boom unemployment

And we most certainly are in war times USA alone is currently involved in 4 different wars I mean we are Allies with Israel and nobody likes them

Women can’t afford to live separate from men what women today call independence comes at the expense of men

Don’t talk reality because the reality is that women don’t have rights women have to be given rights by men because only men can keep men in check and protect women only men can enforce the laws that protect women

But women who speak like you are clearly bothered by the fact that the men they want have standards that they don’t meet

Women can do whatever they want but they can’t blame or be bitter towards men when they have to live with the consequences of their decisions

And if pleasing a man isn’t a priority then you shouldn’t have sex with men again ( this is the female equivalent of a deadbeat dad ) it’s sex without the responsibilities this is why our society is so messed up with 80% of children being born out of wedlock fatherlessness turns girls into whores and boys into sissies

[Beautyblossom2]

You don't have to get pissed at me as if I'm some spokesperson for a group. Ik well about the interdependency. Ik well that women's rights came cuz men "allowed" it. Ik well about the existing patriarchy like I said earlier. But that's not the point... The point is what those women think these days. They're not thinking bout 'old age' or anything n they're least bothered about some ranting 24 yr old. If you wanna "bring them back to morals", go ahead n start protest of 'reminders'.. You made a Q here, not to have a discussion, but to validate your already present opinion (ur opinion was already fixed).. To feel better about it.. Cuz what really the reality is.. Is that you can't make those women listen to you while their behaviour pisses you off. So you're just arguing with the majority people here to feel better.

[AnusNdaPainus]

Thats how a discussion works
I have my ideas and beliefs and someone else has theirs

The reason arguments happen here is because majority of the people here never define their beliefs views or experiences

I’m genuinely trying to understand but majority of people come here to argue so I just ignore it and keep asking questions then they don’t want to talk anymore

Because they feel like it’s a win lose situation

I don’t need those women to listen I need them to understand that the majority of men don’t want those women and stop asking “ How come men ( blank ) “

[Beautyblossom2]

I didn't understand the (blank) 😅 pls type it.. I understand the frustration.. It's the same thing I personally feel the same for valueless men who cheat/are about to cheat. Who goes around wearing an anonymous mask to simp over multiple women & automatically assume they're what women wants to keep chasing. That they're the 'real' ones

[Spongebobssocks]

Feminist started this rival lol..

[zebronics]

Feminism?

[Anonymous]

Feminism