Guys, Red pill wrong pipe?

[Anonymous]

I was educated by my boyfriend about everything red pill and was honestly ashamed I didn't notice to care about mens struggle before. I could go into my past or previous good intentions resume but that is in my opinion part of the selfishness that related to my ignorance of the neglect men are just expected to deal with now...

Anyways I've been digging and researching but a problem I keep seeing is men who have had enough and now view ALL women in a gross "red light" to where the traditional and real women are categorized all the same as radical feminists. Yet I am told that only the good women can make a change because men have been so criminalized for their opinions. So men want a better class of women but its up to the good ones to fix the baddies. And the same men I talk to have no issues having sex and spending money on the bad women.

I agree women have swerved way far out of their lane but how and why are the good ones going to help fix it or not switch to it when we see that mens time, attention, money, and lust goes towards the trash women you disdain?

[NamerOfStars]

My understanding is that the "red pill" mentality is about using evolutionary psychology to manipulate women you're with; what you're mentioning seems to be something different. So forgive me if that mistake informs what I'm about to say here...

If you've realized the difficulties men face and think something should be done about them, that's good: the idea that women's problems mean that men don't have any is ludicrous on the face of it- but no more so than the inverse. Unfortunately, the realities we evolved under mean men don't get the same empathy that women do, and the rise of the Feminist-adjacent doctrine that victimhood is a social virtue means that men who DO realize the ways they've been getting short end of the stick while being told they're getting the long end for their entire lives are likely to be VERY angry. Catch is, not only is this anger socially unacceptable, since it interferes with the greater sympathy naturally given to women; not only is it politically unacceptable, since it interferes with the woman=victim=woman mentality of Feminism, enshrined through osmosis even in those who reject the movement; it's also extremely difficult to do anything productive with, since most men object to the idea that they should be treated equally.

It sounds absurd, no? But just try convincing the average man on the street that boys should have the same rights to genital integrity that girls do. Or that men should have the same rights against governmental battle slavery that women do.

The lack of a healthy outlet for the anger typically leads to one of three responses: first, wholesale rejection of gynocentric norms and values, becoming something of a monk (the MGTOW solution); second, acceptance of the inevitability of the unfairness, and a desire to profit from it (the Red Pill solution); and third, a dissipation and return to normal society when the emotion can't sustain itself. "The game is rigged, and I'm not playing anymore", "the game is rigged; here's how to exploit that", and "the game is rigged, but fuck it". A brave few try for "the game is rigged; let's fix it", but that really only works on the personal level; try to do it on a society-wide basis, and, well, just ask Marc Angelucci how THAT goes.

You can even see it in your own wording: "to where the traditional and real women are categorized all the same as radical feminists" rather ignores that being a radical feminist doesn't mean one isn't a woman; as objectionable as you and I might find their ideas to be, holding a belief doesn't overwrite one's womanhood.

Modern Feminism is not what the movement started as, but it's not so radical a change as most think- there's nothing in the modern hate-filled screeds that wasn't present at Seneca Falls, but back then, the anger far outweighed the hatred, and most of the adherents would've been perfectly satisfied with legal and social changes (which would in turn have caused their own problems, but they didn't know that). It takes a certain level of social boldness to demand the right to vote; it takes far more to demand employers abandon gender-neutral hiring laws to illegally discriminate in your favor, to "fight discrimination". For some people, righteous anger is a drug, and the addiction- and the indulgence- doesn't stop when the righteousness goes away. Opposing evil doesn't mean you can't be evil yourself- and once you start down that slippery slope, you'll find it's a very easy slide to the bottom.

[Asker]

Please private message me. I absolutely love how much thought you put into your response and would very much like to talk further.

[Asker]

Svenskenfur88@gmail. com

[NamerOfStars]

Thanks; I'd happily talk further, but when I try putting the name you gave in, it's just giving me an error message. Can you message me?

[Guy13]

Everyone has their intelligent design and roles that originate therefrom. Those roles and responsibilities are often not fun and are “crosses to bear”. We push through as Men/Women. 🤷🏻‍♂️