1. be more inclined to marry?
2. Actually PRACTICE that?


Just curious.
1. be more inclined to marry?
2. Actually PRACTICE that?


Just curious.
A person can only give so much love and attention, so having additional partners would mean spending less time together, being less close emotionally, and loving them less. It would never be as good as having just one compatible exclusive partner.
If the current model (one man one woman) worked, why is the divorce/break up/ rate so high then?
Also, if people were meant to be monogamous, then why do they cheat? ! And/or hurt their partners over their greediness or disloyalty? ? !
With that line of thought, people are also meant to rob, rape, and murder too. There is a difference between good people that have self control/discipline and those that don't.
Divorce is high because women are rewarded for divorcing. They get to legally steal from the man. That is why so many are against prenuptial agreements. Most are also against mandatory paternity tests at birth because it would prevent them from stealing child support money.
If nobody benefitted from divorce, there would be far fewer.
The breakup rate in unmarried relationships are high because people often prioritize the wrong things when choosing a partner, and many others intentionally mislead them to choose the wrong ones because they see them as competition.
"With that line of thought, people are also meant to rob, rape, and murder too. There is a difference between good people that have self-control/discipline and those that don't."
What do you mean line of thought? I'm just seeing what's happening and observing what's out there, I'm not the one thinking it!.. But also yes, with that, then why marry at all? ! It will be SCARY to find out the hard way who you got to marry! I am not just talking in a financial sense, even though that's bad too, but people who claim to love their partners turn out to be lying scumbags, douchebags, monsters, etc!
I'd totally be okay with getting a paternity test because I have nothing to hide, but at the same time, it would be VERY hurtful considering my partner is already labeling me a CHEATER. Just because of some bad women out there, I'd already be labeled as fooling around with other guys. It's not fair that some bad/immoral women would be SPOILING it for every other woman! And that speaks of my husband's trust in me which would definitely hurt if he tried that with me, given he's the only man/person I've been with since we married!
"If nobody benefitted from divorce, there would be far fewer."
How can there be a BENEFIT to divorce? It's just like a break-up but in the legal Family Court sense. You discuss custody rights and visitation, etc. split of assets before and during the marriage, things like that. Not to mention BOTH are real hurt by the break-up (hopefully!) because it is essentially breaking up a family/a unit/ a team organization. I don't understand how that is beneficial for anyone really, unless they'd rather be "free" and alone.
There's a reason why wedding vows say tll death do you part, in sickness and in health, for richer or for poorer. People these days just want the good, but leave when it get's bad which isn't a sign of committment at all.
And alimony is only a few months, maybe a few years max. I would know because my ex (no I did not divorce him but his ex-wife did) told me about it. And you should WANT to support your ex-wife, especially if you made more than her. But more important than that is the child support. THAT should NOT be optional! You should WANT to ensure the proper raising of your child regardless of who is raising it/has custody. MATURED people/parents would WANT what is best for their kids and not use them as bait or pawn with their drama!
Child support is usually just spending money for the mother and not used for the kids. That is why they are against laws that would require receipts. Also, only the man is jailed for not providing healthcare, but not the woman because women are treated like children when it comes to responsibilities.
Divorce usually means the man works for stuff for many years, but the woman takes half of what HE earned. Anyone that denies that this is what happens in MOST cases is totally untrustworthy and dishonest.
1/3 of all paternity tests reveal that the child does not belong to the claimed "father." Many women lie constantly. Blame women for it, not the many innocent men. And women frequently use the bs guilt excuse for not wanting a paternity test. That is why it is not a law. The majority of women support other women that cheat and abuse men. The MAJORITY support that kind of abuse.
For the until death do us part, okay, then if it is found out that the child doesn't belong to the man, he should legally get to kill his mate. That would be fair.
Why are you acting as if the man is the only one working his butt off to feed, clothe, house the family? It's 2023 (or the 21st Century) in case you didn't know. Women can NOW work outside the home and also bring home the bread and butter or that proverbial bacon! If a divorce so happens, she has EVERY right to the split of those assets! It wasn't like she was sitting at home on the couch all day eating bon bons like Peggy from Married with Children, she was also out there working, driving the baby to daycare and the six year old to school at 6 am in the morning!
"1/3 of all paternity tests reveal that the child does not belong to the claimed "father."" If that is true, that is sad. I would not lie like that. Why would I? That's ridiculous. The person who is the real father should step up and pay for the child he created with her! If that man happens to be a bum it doesn't matter. He made his bed now he should lie in it! In this case, then I do agree with paternity testing but like I said, why even do that to me if that will not happen! I don't sleep around like other women and my husband should trust me enough to not require that shit.
"Many women lie constantly." So do men! And I've had my fair share of their lies that I don't need to talk about them in detail here!
"The majority of women support other women that cheat and abuse men. The MAJORITY support that kind of abuse." I didn't know that, that's horrible. I would NEVER support a woman that would do that, EVER!
"For the until death do us part, okay, then if it is found out that the child doesn't belong to the man, he should legally get to kill his mate. That would be fair." No, that's not right. That's pretty violent of you to think. Maybe just have the woman pay him back for all the money he gave thinking in it was his kid? That's more fair.
Only going to address one thing you said. You claim that if a man asked for a paternity test he is labeling you a cheater. Put yourself in a man's shoes for 15 seconds. You get a with a woman. She gets pregnant she knows the kid is hers (obviously she is growing it inside herself) she also knows who the father is. What does the man have? Belief... he BELIEVES the child is his. Belief and knowing are entirely different things that carry entirely different outcomes. Now being the man which would you prefer knowing factually the child is yours? OR believing the child is yours despite the fact that belief does not remain consistent over the years? A paternity test has absolutely nothing to do with the woman or whether or not she cheated. It is 100% about the man wanting to know factually that the child is his. Provides a hell of a lot of peace of mind. My wife and I have 3 kids we are each others first and only partners. She insisted on a paternity test because she KNOWS I am a factual person and she KNOWS that seeing the "you are the father" would be huge for me. Mind you I knew that the children were mine cause again we have only been with each other but seeing proof of my knowledge was important.
@JacobJordan So what you're saying is you want definitive or absolute proof that the baby is yours. I call b. s. to be honest. If you TRUSTED your wife, you would NOT need to know this. This is telling me that you've got some trust issues with her fidelity. If she's only been with you insofar, then why would it be NECESSARY to? This is a question of TRUST for your spouse/wife, and a question of your security towards your marriage!
She insisted I didn't bring it up and again it has nothing to do with her. I know she didn't cheat because we have been at each other's side 24/7 for over 16 years. But she unlike most women understands that knowing is more important than believing and unless someone can see the physical proof they are believing. That is called a good woman. She would rather have the physical proof even though we both know they are mine. Funny thing is only women that are against paternity tests or have any level of issue at all with it are women who either 1 don't want the man to find out they aren't his. Or 2 women who are to selfish to put themselves in their husband's shoes and realize that him knowing factually is more important than him knowing via belief.
@JacobJordan If it meant that much to my partner then yes, I'd do it no problem, but I would still be hurt by him asking for that or even suggesting such a thing knowing that I was a faithful wife. What's the point in someone being faithful then if they were just going to be subjected to such a thing. I hope you understand what I am talking about. This doesn't make me a bad person but a person who really doesn't feel the need to do it! My parents didn't' need to do this when I was young, why is it all of a sudden so popular to do now? ? ! I think believing is good enough and I know what you were trying to imply there lol.
@JacobJordan And like I said, if you TRUSTED your partner at all, then why would you want her to go through that type of stress? Some couples are even happy to adopt children that aren't theirs by the way. Just saying.
What stress? Lol it was a prick of my finger and a bit of the babies blood at the hospital zero stress involved. Paternity tests can be done at the hospital the the moment the baby is born it isn't hard. You acting like it is some huge ordeal. Also why is it so popular now? Because 1% to 30% of men world wide are unknowingly raising children that are not theirs. I do trust my partner and for the 3rd time it was her idea. She gave birth and said "do a paternity test facts are more important than belief." So we did that. And of course the kids were mine. 16+ years and 3 kids. I will remind you once again it has absolutely nothing to do with you and the refusal from you to not only put yourself in your partners shoes but to also attempt to insinuate a lack of trust if a man asks is very telling. Suppose that is why I am married. My parents need to do it either because both our parents are from a generation that actually waited until marriage, they didn't hoe around, so of course they wouldn't need paternity tests. However as a result of likely a minority of shitty women paternity testing is gaining traction as potentially a legal requirement. You ever notice how it is only the promiscuous women or the women who won't be able to scam a well off man that are against paternity testing. Thousands of women are in full support of paternity testing for the same reasons "facts are more important than belief" it is quite funny that you keep trying to insinuate that I must not trust my wife when she is the one who requested it. I am adopted so I am more than aware of people adopting solid attempt to change the subject complete fail though. Adopting is full knowledge both parties KNOW they are about to have a child that is not linked to either of them. That is a factual outcome of adoption so you are in reality proving my and my wife's point that facts> belief.
Wife response: we share this account as it states in my husband's bio. And yes I did request the paternity test because I wanted my husband to have factual evidence that the kids were his. Like my husband said it wasn't even a little bit stressful for me or for him. He knew I was faithful and I wanted to prove to him that his belief was well placed. I was thrilled to give him the peace of mind that comes with knowing something factual. I feel any woman should be thrilled and happy to provide their husband that. Especially given we as women already factually know who the child belongs to as we grew it, carried it, brought it into this world. Giving your husband the peace of mind that the child is factually his regardless of circumstance is just the right thing to do as a wife and mother.
it would be VERY hurtful considering my partner is already labeling me a CHEATER. No. Trust but verify. You know you are the biological mother. A man doesn't know that he is the biological father.
@CozyCoffin dual response: we are fairly certain she is not actually looking for that she wants the man to believe her because it worked for her parents and our parents. But she is forgetting (or ignoring) that only in fairly recent times has there been an increase in cases where the father is not actually the father and the woman lied.
@cozycoffin I know you just like to gang up on people like me because you HATE women and hate trusting them lol. @jacobjordan why did you get your wife to come on here and respond? It had NOTHING to do with her. And like I said, I am NOW being punished just because there's a lot of bad women that are hoing around making unsuspecting men as fathers to children that aren't theirs. That's not me! And who are you to tell me how to feel? ! Both of you should just grow up and PAY ATTENTION to what I am saying! @jacobjordan it's not the baby who will go through the emotional stress, it's the woman! You're HURTING HER BECAUSE YOU DON'T TRUST HER GET IT! ! OMG YOU DENSE JERKS LOL! Why would you need to verify ANYTHING if you TRUSTED THEM? ? ! ! Very weird and hurtful like I said! Anger incuding really!
@CozyCoffin Like I said if you trusted her there is ABSOLUTELLY NO REASON to verify unless you didn't! May be you both do not get it and just want to be selfish with your ways and want to be right! I am NEVER going to ask the father of my child to have any "Paternity Test" because of something stupid!
@jacobjordan I feel sorry for your wife for you to not trust her like that. I'm glad my husband is not going to make me do that and even if he did, that spells what kind of person he is. Plus where did you get the information that women want rich men to be the father of their children? ? ! A paternity test WILL indeed prove that it is not his child so why would they waste their time? ? ! I I get why a rich man would want to do that but a poor man? ? ! Plus this is all so horrible. You guys just do not know the joys of having children and developing an unbreakable bond with them. How sad!
And yet both my wife and I are telling you there is no stress lol you are making all of this up in a desperate and pathetic ploy to try and get your way. You also are refusing to put yourself in your future husband's shoes. What is astounding is the longer this goes on the worse you are sounding. You went from being okay with it but saying he wouldn't trust you. When I pointed out that was entirely false you denied it and tried twisting my example to suit your narrative. So because my wife and I share the account she wanted to respond so you wouldn't be able to twist what happened. Again my wife and I have 3 kids and have been together for 16+ years if you were to ask her which is more stressful giving birth or having her husband's blood get drawn for a paternity test we both know what the answer would be. Now I will absolutely say and agree that it isn't fair to good women that shitty women hoing around are causing paternity testing to become a legal requirement. However if it becomes legal you like my wife and like many other good women have absolutely nothing to be stressed about because you know the results will be linked to the guy you are with. The only cause for any stress would be if you were not sure who the father was. And by your own admission you aren't that type of woman. Of all women I find it bizarre you are even remotely against this especially when you now know that it has nothing to do with you and everything to do with a man wanting factual knowledge for peace of mind. That would make a relationship stronger. And yes our parents didn't have to do that but as you and I have both brought up the minority of shitty women hoing around are ruining things for good women. The same way shitty men that abuse, rape, and assault women are ruining things for good men.
Wife response: how many times do we have to tell you that I requested it. I knew the test would come back with him as the father. Not once did I ever feel like he didn't trust me and I know that he trusts me totally and completely. You are not only refusing to believe the 2 men who are actually being factual but you are ignoring the woman who birthed 3 children with my husband and still got a paternity test. I was able to view it from my husband's point of view and so I requested the paternity test FOR him. In addition he has been present in our kids lives from the moment we found out I was pregnant. I do not appreciate the consistent attempts at twisting what I am saying. What my husband is saying and your immature attempts at claiming that because I requested the paternity test my husband doesn't trust me.
@JacobJordan Can you please leave your nasty, mean wife out of this I'm getting confused lol. And yes, I DO NOT appreciate having to do a test because of the bad apples of women out there. All I was saying was that I'd feel HURT if my husband/partner asked me to do that. It implied that he thought I was sleeping around/screwing/hoing around, that's all I was saying. Who is ANYONE to dictate how I should feel in that scenario/situation! Anyone has the right to feel however they want to feel regardless of anyone's input really. I just think it's bad taste to request one, especially if the person's been known to be faithful and loving, committed, etc. I hope you are understanding what I am saying and I am NOT twisting anything here.
And as I keep saying, why the need for that if you TRUSTED them? Believing is different from verifying facts, yes, that I can agree with , but still, there really wouldn't be a need, if you (the person) did their actual role of being a good father, regardless of whether the child was his or not. A child needs a stable loving home regardless of whether his father was different or the woman's father was the actual father. I know some people have a problem with raising another man's child, but then in that case, they should leave the relationship because the baby will be the mother's (or father's if he has full custody) for life. Relationships, as people know, sadly come and go.
But yeah, I really hope you are understanding what I am saying but it seems like both of you aren't. I WOULD BE HURT AND DISAPPOINTED if my partner asked me for one DESPITE me behaving/being a good loyal partner/wife to him!
But of course, YOU guys do want to have it your way so go ahead. No body is stopping you.
Well that was just rude. My wife is far nicer than I am. And of course I understand what you are saying. I was informing you that for men it has nothing to do with you. By which I mean you could be a virgin and he could be a virgin. You could spend all your time together 24/7 and if he asked for a paternity test it is about his peace of mind in seeing that what he already knows is factual. Of course that may not change how you feel but i can promise you that vast majority of men that ask that are not thinking about you or about you having been unfaithful. They simply want to confirm what they believe. I might add you may not have to worry about a man asking for much longer. From the various bills being proposed across the US they are going to just make it mandatory. You had made a previous comment I did not address about how women have tried baby trapping rich men. While that does not effect me as I do not put myself in positions to receive that type of attention. I am very well off and had I found myself marrying an American woman I would have asked for one because for my personally I worked very very hard for my money and my life and that money is for my wife and children. Not for someone else's children.
@JacobJordan If they make it mandatory for those that live in the U. S. (I could move to another country and meet someone there for all it's worth by the way), but in any case, that's fine. At least the requirement isn't comming from his insecurity or negative suspiciouns of me. I do not deserve that.
You are perceiving it as him being suspicious and/or insecure I am assuring you that he is not. The sad part is even for the guys that want to verify that the child is theirs so they don't have to believe it even if they know it there is so much negative bullshit attached that a lot of guys don't risk it even though it effects there ability to bond with the child. I apologize as I do not remember the source however I read a study fairly recently regarding fathers and children and a decent amount of men confessed that even though they knew the child was theirs they were having a hard time connecting simply because they were required to believe it. These men wanted proof but felt that if they asked their wives would be extremely offended even though the husband's knew the woman hadn't cheated they simply wanted to not have to believe it they wanted to know it on the same level a woman knows it.
I would consider it
We already had a similar discussion about a harem
I still think one man is enough... sometimes even more than enough
Okay why are people so negative with this it was just a question! Lol.
Why negative? I'm fully aware of what it means to have one walking testosterone at home. More would be a suicide :D
I would have 5 husband's if it was allowed
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absolutly.
my ideal type of relationship is having multiple (doesn't need to be large amounts even 2 is enough but let's say 4 for now) girls but i absolutly don't want them to have other guys but it would be good if they were also into each other, this type of relationship would be almost all pros and almost no cons.
pros:
- having 4 woman to have sex
-not being HAVE
to do things you don't feel like at the moment in order to satisfy them.
- more income plus still having housewives to raise kids and do chores
-more kids
-girl on girl is hot, so shorter refractory time.
-having other girls to play matchmakers and bridges for you when you have problems with one of them.
cons:
possiblity of jealousy
needing a big house
possibility of all of them ganging on you
No because I could have multiple boyfriends now if I wanted to and I don't and I don't really want to. When I'm single I have a few friends with benefits but I don't see any one of them very often so it's just to be able to have sex once in awhile.
You know there's more to life than sex right? Lol. But okay, I get your point.
Where did I say it was all about sex? I said I don't see anyone for sex very often. Am I supposed to have zero sex?
Nah, that would probably be triple or quadruple the disappointment lol. I have yet to meet a guy who knows how to deal with me emotionally.
Have you asked yourself if the guys fault that they can't handle you? 🤔
@Joshydavid25 Nah I assume its me, no one can handle me. I am literally forever alone :D
Nah, there's Billions of men on this planet.. You just gotta find a good one that's crazy enough to handle you.. LOL..
@Joshydavid25 Yeah I suppose, but right now it seems like a difficult feat for me.
What are you like emotionally that's so hard to handle?
@Joshydavid25 I tend to have an anxious attachment style but I also get Avoidant if I don't feel they actually love me. It is like once I feel they will abandon me I leave them first.
I am pretty sure I am a bit much as a person.
Well that doesn't sound so bad.. I mean maybe a tiny bit unhealthy but we all have some of that.. Lmao..
@Joshydavid25 Lmao yeah I suppose.. but I need to fix up hahaha :P
Of course.. In the end I think you'll be just fine.. You're self aware at least.. 😄.. And it's not so bad.. You get kinda clingy and then shut down if you don't feel your feelings are reciprocated..
@Joshydavid25 Thanks, yeah pretty much so I hopefully i can get over that stuff lol
No problem you can really.. Somebody that's good with communication would definitely be great.. Many people today suck at communicating, and that's probably why a lot of the guys you've been exposed to can't handle you.. Lol..
the issue is polygamy is immoral, so old days 4 wives is long ago outdated.
polyamor, is without wedding that is increasing, but seems to me just as immoral?
People do immoral things already anyway like break the hearts of loving women and men (like what my ex did). People CHEAT or their "significant others". People have KIDS outside marriage. And these people don't even go to jail or get prosecuted for any of their immoralities. What's new? !
I’m too greedy, I’d only need one and want to be only one for someone.
But what if they didn't consider you to be their "one"? How would you feel/react?
Good lord NO. 2x or 3x (or however many wives you have) the nagging, bitching, passive aggressiveness, etc... no thanks.
If you don't mind me saying, I think this would be the best way to ensure your genetic line is spread out farther hehe..
I think it would be kind of fun having more than one wife. It would not be an orgy. A relationship of one person at a time. I'd have a place to go if the other one is a little bitchy but don't touch me leave me alone and don't even think about it mood.
nope, I don't like sharing my man and I wouldn't know how to share my love fairly and it's not good for my other guys.
So what would you do if your man decided he wanted to be with someone else despite marrying you two years ago? You also just found out you're pregnant. HIs mistress knows you exist but doesn't care because she's a homewrecker.
I believe some Muslims are allowed 4 wives, as long as all are treated the same.
Is it just the man or the woman too?
Just men can have up to 4 wives. It is a very patriarcal system.
I would still only have one significant other. The idea of having multiple partners at a time doesn’t appeal to me.
Okay so what if husband #1 decides he wants to divorce you? At least you'll have husband #2 still loving and supporting you. What if husband #3 is infertile/sterile? At least husband #4 is a sprung as an ox and can give you five kids. Husband #6 decides to cheat, no worries, you got others..
I'm just saying, you wouldn't be as devastated if you lost one or two lol. 😉
Then I’d bid him farewell and continue on with my life happily single. I’m monogamous. Period. Not up for discussion.
if you want to live that lifestyle become a mormon.
Actually I think in Mormonism, only the man is allowed that.
it's funny but the freeist most simple reality is reality itself. a woman can have many boyfriends but not husbands. same with men with a wife.
cults only serve the master so it's not that interesting. and why have 3-10 wives when you will cheat on them?
I’ve been married for 23 years, I can’t imagine having to wives or more. But I guess that depends on if they are sex craving lunatics, then it may be worth it
If everyone involved is ok with there being 2 or 3 women in the marriage I would
You would need to do a lot of talking to keep everyone happy tho
Nah, I remember going out with my last ex lol. Sometimes, I wished he'd just shut up from talking lol.
Lol I guess he did the wrong kinda talking and too much of it
Hell NO. One husband is more than enough.
GOD NO! WHY WOULD I WANT THAT?
ONE WIFE IS TWO TOO MANY!
No. I Even Stipulated in Egypt When marrying That Time a Muslim Man, NO TWO. xxoo
I have no interest in polygamy. Never have, and most likely never will.
No, honest to god, I have room in my life and my heart for just one woman.. And that is my wife.
Would you still say the same if she cheated on you? Or divorced you/hurt you and the kids?
yes. Its just not right.
Nah. One woman is more than enough headache for me, ha.
Nope. Nobody wants me with one, why the hell would more than one want me?
Aww 😞
No. I don’t want a harem! I just want one wife to love and cherish until death do us part!
What if she doesn't feel the same way about you?
I would never enter into any polygamous relationship. That's just gross.
But people cheat and sleep with 20 people (or more) in their life time and THAT'S not gross to you? ! ? !
@TenderFantasy That IS gross to me!
by the way, allow me to introduce myself. Apparently we have not met before. Because once you get to know me, you will know that I am very much on your side.
I would not even have one. The thought of more than one is horrifying.
Multiple wives to divorce rape me? No thanks.
divorce rape?
Lol no. Too cool around maybe. But forever, nope. More people more problems.
@islathewitch said no...
I said I don't see any sense in having more than one man, but you can have all Nymphs you want, @NathanDavis :D I wouldn't dare to interfere with your social circle
@IslaTheWitch lmao...
I didn't mean I would be part of a group of men... lol
Hmmm... and this is random, @NathanDavis why men?
@IslaTheWitch the question would be for you, if you would have multiple husbands
@NathanDavis I wouldn't... one is challenging enough for a lazy witch like me
@IslaTheWitch so you don't want to be part of multiple wives either
@NathanDavis I'm not a fan of sharing my man with any other woman, so of course, I don't want...
I'm not into the marriage thing.
Nope, one woman is more than enough..
It isn't illegal
It's not? I know in the U. S. it is, but I can double check.
But am not in USA
I can't even find ONE!!
One wife is enough for me,
Sounds like more problems than it's worth
no, one is enough
Yes. One cheating, lying, scumbag of an abusive husband is enough.
Hell no.
no thanks.
I don't need a harem
Nope
One woman is enough
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