Do most women lack respect or is it just a few?

[lightbulb27]

Article about RFK Jr 37 women he engaged with while married to his 2nd wife. His 2nd wife found his diary with notes about all the encounters. She subsequently divoriced and apparently committed suicide.

How pathetic are women to mess with a married man? Do most women really lack scruples and the strength to hold good values? The issue is often blamed on the men, but it is the women saying "yes", sometimes repeatedly. There is no indication as to the moral/religious teachings of any of the women.

https://nypost.com/2013/09/08/rfk-jr-s-sex-diary-of-adultery/

At least he took good records, that's good.

"I know he's married, but he is rich and his wife is a...'

Yes, most women value themselves and are selfish

Some are, most are trustworthy

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1 y

wow... this drove the women out of the corners to attack me... standard. Same thing I hear from teens that don't take responsibility. here's myanswer.

It's a little walnut sized part of the brain and it doesn't care about anyone else rather than it's selfish indulgence which is to reproduce. Rich/famous guys are a better target for... you know all the resasons... doesn't matter if they have a speech issue.

Unless the girl/woman has a stronger guiding force/beliefs, she will be selfish.

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1 y

Note as well and you can see in the answers below from women... she will deflect and won't take responsibility for her side.

Some women will stand up and say no, % I do not know...

[Anonymous]

The diary was part of his 12-steps and isn't what led to his wife divorcing him, from my understanding, RFK's ex wife was mentally ill with an alcohol and substance abuse problem and was physically abusive to RKF and their children leading RFK to seek divorce, which she kept denying till she finally gave in and gave it to him. Can be taken with a grain of salt, but someone who personally new RFK and his wife commented on a news article how his ex wife would borrow money from friends and family to buy alcohol (claimed she needed if for food). initially RFK tried to make their marriage work so much so that he gave up his political career to care for her and to help her commit to recovery to no avail which led him to file for divorce which she finally gave him after years of refusing. Not defending RFK's actions, just pointing out that there's more to this story then just RFK ex wife committing suicide because her RFK slept around. As I mentioned earlier, RFK ex wife was mentally ill, and was suicidal for quite some time because of it. Not surprised your being attacked by women, they hate when you point something out without mentioning they other side, when you do mention the other side they still attack because you didn't refrain yourself and only mention the other side. Was it wrong that RFK slept with 37 women while married? Yes. Did RFK sleeping with 37 women while married cause her to commit suicide? Mostly no, she was mentally ill which resulted in her being suicidal. Are women just as wrong as the married man? Yes. The only way a women wouldn't be in the wrong for sleeping with a married man is if she didn't know he was married, but in the case of RFK, he was a public figure and there were no excuses for not knowing he was married. Could argue that RFK had the affairs because he was unhappy in his marriage and his wife wouldn't give him a divorce, but I'm not going to, because he was still married and should have remained faithful till a divorce was finalized.

[lightbulb27]

Fair history to consider. And I've seen another woman commit suicide after losing everything … due to drug issues. The issues are deeper than that probably in bith case for there's a readon for the drugs. I have no facts it. But this was just an example. My question still holds about the 37!

[Opinion Owner]

I did a bit of research into RFKs ex wife's suicide while he was still a presidential candidate so I know a little bit about it. If you commit suicide because you lost everything due to drugs, really no one is to blame except your self, in RFKs case, he actually tried to help his ex wife to no avail, which led to him and his kids leaving. Even RFKs children back him up that his ex wife was unstable and suicidal. I think it's awful politics has gotten to the point we're using tragic events such as suicide to attack politicians we don't like. It's OK not to like that he had 37 affairs while married, I myself don't but blaming it on his wife's suicide is going to far especially when she has an unstable history and he tried to help her. It's also maddening that the women here are refusing to blame the women and attacking you for trying to defend RFK, when you're not. I'm not defending RFK for having an affair with 37 women, just debunking the nonsense that it caused his wife to commit suicide. I've seen some defend RFK stating the abusive relationship led to him having affairs with other women which is just as ridiculous as the woman here refusing to put partial blame on the women. Both RFK and the women are equally to blame for the affairs, RFK could have refrained from getting with other women till he was divorced and at the same time the woman he had affairs with could have done the decent thing and not get into a sexual relationship with a married man. I guarantee you, had this situation been a woman having an affair with 37 men, the woman here would be blaming her husband for not meeting her physical and emotional needs.

[lightbulb27]

Well said!

[Summeroflove]

It number one takes two people to tango so it is both the man as well as the women choosing to sleep with the man. I don’t agree with casual encounters either but it happens sometimes where people casually hook up without knowing if someone is married or not.

Cheating is wrong regardless of the situation and not all women are cheaters neither are all men. It comes down to integrity and now RFK jr is married to a very controlling woman. So

[IslaTheWitch]

how pathetic is a married man who constantly cheats on his wife with different women?

if he is in the relationship, the responsibility is on his side, he is a HUSBAND... any woman can flirt with him, but HE HAS A WIFE, so he should say NO and return to his wife...

those women need to answer their conscience... but they didn't break their vows... and if they did, it's a problem in their marriage, not his... in this case he was responsible and he fucked up...

[lightbulb27]

yes and beyond measure, he's got /had/ some screws loose.
but question is about women. they so often dish their responsibility.

[IslaTheWitch]

give better example than this

[lightbulb27]

It's easy to stop the cheaing in it's track..."look at ring, say no". One wonders if he was 37 for 37. There's too many examples and we all have them.

[IslaTheWitch]

he was married, he broke his vows... those are facts...

[katiesmuff]

Very few women will not get involved with a guy while he is still married. Most realize the outcome will always be disastrous and not want the trouble it would bring.

[lightbulb27]

wait... few women WILL get involved with
or most women WILL get involved with?

[katiesmuff]

Should not of had the "not" in that sentence

[Cormac995]

I went with most woman because in my opinion most people in general regardless of sex suck. People are so self-absorbed and focused on their own wants and needs they're incapable of connecting or empathizing with someone more than themselves and if you don't love your SO more than yourself, you're not in love. It's that simple.

[lightbulb27]

That's the MHO if I don't get to click the button in time. And from a 29 yr old guy. amazing!
Do note the womens answers... they don't do responsibility either...

[Cormac995]

Dude I've known this since I was 14. "You only know you love her when you let her go." It's a cliché song but I knew I loved her because even after 6 months of listening to her crying and sobbing and hating herself and spending from 10 to as late as 4 Am almost every night regardless of school or activities the next day comforting her and boosting her ego from the ashes.

She decided my birthday party was the perfect place to tell my best and oldest friend a kid that I literally taught the alphabet to that she liked him and the next day he told me he was going out with her. He didn't ask for permission, he didn't ask if I was ok, he said "I'm going to." And you know what? After all of that after everything I'd been through and done and seen. I grit my teeth gave a fake smile held back the tears and said word for word. "I just want her to be happy, take care of her."

[Cormac995]

That was one of the hardest things I've ever done in my life. After everything I did and went through and after they both did this to me I know for a fact I really was in love because very few people would have done that in my situation.

When I went home and cried after that I knew that even though I was you she was my first real love because I never could have done that and been the bigger person if I didn't care more about her than myself. Real love is sacrifice and that's what I did for her.

The douche bag broke his promise too. He took her for granted and used her for sex but never treated her like a girlfriend or showed real love. When she pushed him about the lack of affection and focus on sex he dumped her.

I had to stop hanging out with them whenever they were together because they would paw at each other and flirt right in front of me. I couldn't really cut him out because we were a group of friends and nobody wanted to pick a side or even acknowledge what was happening. If I had cut him out of my life completely for it though they would have seen me as the villain for taking it too far and I'd piss all of them off.

I left that group for good close to a year ago and my life's a lot better than it was now. Still sucks though.

[lightbulb27]

That's a very touching read.
You were only 14 when falling for her? Those young loves sting hardest. I hope you can put into proper place, so you can give love to one that reciprocates and is deserving of yours.

[Agape93]

Why blame just women? He's in a relationship and chose to be unfaithful 37 times with different women.

[lightbulb27]

they could have all said no. not blaming only women.

[Agape93]

So could he, 37 times. He didn't.

Dude you literally only blamed women. You didn't denounce his actions once, you even said at least it was good he kept records of HIS affairs.

[lightbulb27]

yes he could. I'm not asking about him, don't care.

no I used an example to highlight a question about women only. Lets just say, seen a similar situation in my environment and so I wonder. As well, it takes two to tango... but one of them starts the process...
Frankly, I already have good enough knowledge to answer, it's just a question to the world and people to think.

[Agape93]

You don't care because you only care to shame women for what was ultimately his choice to indulge and engage in cheating. Way to show your ass, the other girls here noticed too.

[lightbulb27]

I count your answer as yes, "girls don't take responsibility" nor do they respect other women.

[Agape93]

Nah it's not because I didn't answer so my vote isn't tallied.

[lightbulb27]

I expect women to stand up and be accountable as mature women. But respect appears to take lower priority than "gimmie... I take".
And then the woman deflect, aren't accountable... and blame the man. But that's another question...

thanks for sharing!

[Agape93]

And you only came to. blame us, not the man who chose to be a piece of shit 37 times in a row. Pretty sure adultery is a sin for men too. So go square your defense of an adulterer with your god.

[Anonymous]

The irony of you bashing women and not the married guy that cheated 37 times. What a fucking joke.

[lightbulb27]

that's the problem with some women I meet... don't take responsibility! I'm only talking about women. They could say no.

[Nik1hil]

God Created Man in His Image..

Can you Guess in Who's Image Did God Created Women?

[dustybiker2]

So you blame the woman? That's rich.

[lightbulb27]

Reread the question.

[dustybiker2]

Right. But your description bends into blaming woman.