

Just look at the design and complexity of it all. That doesn't happened by random chance over millions of years.
Moreover, evolution is also true but in the animal kingdom only.


While religious believers have some wishful thinking on the matter, there is no support for this claim. It's just a matter of: "wow, human body is incredible, I don't understand it, therefore it must have been magically created."
Anyone who takes some anatomy and biology courses can see the evolution is the same as all other animals, humans are just one of many species of animal. Thinking you are special makes you special, but not necessarily in the way that you imagine. :D
One easy and simple to understand example is the human appendix. If there were a magical creator as suggested by the first option, then this would have been a stupid mistake by said creator. The appendix serves no purpose, and sometimes becomes infected and causes problems for the organism (human). Whoops, there goes the "extremely smart" part of that option.

The evolution example accounts for the appendix. It is a historical vestigial appendage of previous versions of life that used this part of the digestive system, much in the way that cows do. But as evolution progresses, this appendix will slowly disappear entirely. At that point, religious people in the future will have a better argument because ironically evolution will have improved their bodies to a point where the "extremely smart creator" option seems even more appropriate.
Don't mean to argue with you but when we were hunter gatherers we ate a lot of things that either made us barf or gave us the runs. As I am sure you know, our gut relies on a normal flora to help us digest our dietary intake. Almost one third of our stool is bacteria. Losing that on a regular basis could be devastating. When you exist on the fringe you don't have time to waste trying to rebuild that flora. Your appendix is the reservoir where you store that precious flora. That is why it has muscle layers so it can contract to deliver the bacteria to the gut so no nutrition is lost. That is where the problem starts. We have taken control of our lives through agriculture and canning and antibiotics. So we do not suffer from bouts of purging at both ends so our appendices stay dormant. Stasis leads to infection. Trip to the surgeon. So the appendix served a useful purpose long ago but has outlived it usefulness in the present. Should we revert to a hunter-gather, it might become useful again.
@AMS700CX4u2 awesome, thanks for the information, no worries about “arguing”; I’m always open to new information.
“Intelligent design” is defo a difficult one to argue since evolution runs parallel to the most intelligent possible design for any given environment. If it works, it stays. If it doesn’t work, it gets eliminated.
On the topic of gut flora, I’m a big fan and attribute most of my exceptional health to it. I got lucky with my parent being very natural and avoiding antibiotics and junk foods.
The best way to build your immune system is to consume your environment, not hide from it. There are some things we can't build defenses to, but not that many. Lactobacillus and Hydrochoric Acid in the gut. A winning team.
@AMS700CX4u2 not a good idea to consume the lead in your environment, or phthalates, or many other toxic substances that are ubiquitous and causing lots of issues for people's immune systems. Celiac, lupus, and many other auto-immune disorders are on the rise due to people "eating their environment". I consider a large part of what is sold in grocery stores to be garbage, and detrimental to health. I see plenty of people eating it and having lots of issues with their nutrition and bodies that I don't have.
You have a point. Natural environment vs Man modified environment? Still less than a good idea. You are right.
Creation to include the big bang. God created the universe by using part of his being. Not a physical matter but energy which can neither be created nor destroyed but certainly transformed. We don't have much luck in the cyclotron. It takes a , massive amount of energy to create one atom. Furthermore, we have problems keeping the matter and antimatter apart from one another. They collapse into one another. That is Gods power, creation and sustaining. Most of us like to believe in a god that sat down at the rivers edge and made clay images that he breathed life into. You must remember that He has been here since before time began. No one is watching Him telling Him to hurry up. Evolution may seem slow to us. What's the hurry. Who is his Critic? All he had to do is wait until evolution produced a model that he felt would be suitable and alter a little DNA. When we lost our body hair those stem cells needed to produce dermal appendages ended up in our brain and produced convolutions of neurons needed for intelligence. Neandertals had ruled the planet for millions of years. When Africans started mating with neandertals and their peers modern man was formed. So did the Adam and Eve story address the first simians to be modern man. I know it messes up the creation story. but no matter how He did it, amazing.
I spent 30 years dissecting human remains and we are not that much different from a pig internally. Above the trachea, different story.. So I don't know.
Genesis Chapter 1 explains it. Christianity 101
Darwin was a liar. The “Big Bang” doesn’t add up, how did all the ingredients get in a big ball before the bang?
intelligent design. Creation. The great I AM Jesus Christ is the creator God, Savior, Lord of all
Amen sister.
I believe the theory that a meteor from Mars had these cells which evolved into various forms of life since Mars had life before Earth and it's proven.
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Other apes have all of those physical features of humans too.
Evolution isn't random. It's a ratchet process where many copies are made with minor variations, the least able to survive are removed from the gene pool, and next lot of copies are variations on the most able to survive.
It's similar to the way no modern cars look like a Model T or horse-drawn cart, except cars have actual designers.
Mammals all have a nerve (the recurrent (inferior) laryngeal nerve) with ends a couple of inches apart in the head, but it takes a route via the heart. Even in giraffes. https://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2010/06/22/the-laryngeal-nerve-of-the-gir
I don’t have a specific belief in that regard. Mostly because it doesn’t matter. Here we are, and how we came to be is meaningless compared to what we intend looking forward, not backward. Also, people get VERY emotional about this idea even though nobody REALLY knows the answer. Ell oh ell! As far as i’m concerned, any possibility is as likely as any other.
I believe than human life came from mars and it sounds crazy and i dont care honestly I'm open to all opinions and theories but currently i think a element molybdenum influenced life on earth, it has to be oxidised to do this and this was found on a Martian meteorite and also mars' surface not only that but it formed way earlier on mars than earth almost 3 billion years when the earth had little oxygen and mars did. Furthermore, RNA and DNA and other essential proteins in Martian meteorites are more water solvable than those on early earth and since life is suspected to have formed in the presence of water it suggests that life formed more readily on mars than it did earth.
Be evolving from a prehuman. I do however question if you can actually draw a line for when they become human since a Neanderthal isn't that different from homosapiens. So how can there be a first human. Since we can't say what is the feature that differ these two except time.
I believe they came into existence by God, I'm Christian.
An ape decides to eat shellfish it found on the beach, and has a surge of neural growth due to the abundance of a new high energy food source. It's tribe and offspring learn the trick and a new evolutionary branch begins.
The god responsible for giving the ape the idea goes back to sleep, a job having been well done.
Actually that’s Not completely True even Chimpanzees today Practice Cannibalism and will Kill and eAt other animals
I do believe in evolution but I think species like humanity evolved purposefully thanks to a higher being. There's a million different ways we could've turned out, but we evolved as a specific certain way of being.
But if we looked 20% different than we currently do, or 50% different or 90% different, you would have the same response. "We turned out a certain way and not the other million different ways!" We had to look like something. That doesn't prove creation.
@I_Can_Help I'm not trying to prove creation, we could've turned out differently but we didn't, I simply think that's good enough. Humanity could've not existed at all and it could've been another species instead.
You could have been struck by lightning but you weren't.
The Creator story (A) has no verifiable evidence, and primordial soup and evolution (B) is hard to believe. I really wonder if Earth was visited by aliens millennia ago, leaving some behind that evolved into present-day humans (C).
How did the aliens get in the Universe, genius?
@I_Can_Help The aliens came from the previous universe. You see, each universe expands until it reaches a maximum, then mostly collapses on itself (part of it survives) and spawns a new universe. Besides, you asked how the first humans came into existence, you didn't ask about the aliens.
This isn't my question.
@I_Can_Help Sorry, I meant the poster's question, not your question.
The Creator put us here on this great Earth. God created both male and female as equals. That's companions in life to share in all things.
There is scientific proof with evolution. The theory of a celestial creator is backed up by nothing except books that have never been, nor will be, backed up by any logical proof.
There is also scientific proof that covid vaccines are "safe and effective" that does not mean its true. Also evolution and god can both exist simultaneously
@FreeYourM1nd I agree, but the Covid vaccines were studied for maybe two years, while evolution has been studied for over 100 years. Evolution and God cannot exist simultaneously because Christianity says God created everything, when it was actually a big bang and single celled organisms.
That is a fair point.
When I say God I mean in general a conscious intelligent omnipotent force. A God could have created everything including evolution.
Creator. Things tend to disorganize, not come together per Newton's third law of thermodynamics.
The world is falling apart, chief. All because of filthy humans.
I honestly have no idea, and neither does anyone else.
My boyfriend would tell you aliens
I say evolution
We compromise in conversation to say it's a bit of both 😂
I used to have a similar “alien evolution “ theory: that aliens are traveling around the galaxies and they make stops to do some “seeding” and get life started. Then they bail and never come back. (Or maybe they plan to come back in 5 billion years)
Millions of years of evolution. I wish I could peek in to the future another million years to see what we look like.
Through evolution is my theory as science and discoveries have proven
I find it interesting that your update says that you recognize evolution to be true in the animal kingdom, but not for humans. Why do you consider humans to be seporate from other living organisms?
Because there's no evidence for human evolution but there is for animals.
What do you mean? There was another human ancestor species discovered just last year. There are even humans alive today that have small amounts of cro-magnun DNA
But that didn't quite answer my question. Do you consider 'animal' and 'evolution' to be synonymous? Humans were classified as a subspecie of primate in the zoological taxonomic system about 100 years before Darwin came up with his theories on evolution
No I don't. Animal evolution I believe happened around sometime after the flood.
I'm almost certain you don't understand the concept
But it says in Genesis that God created the animals and had them parade before Adam, and whatever Adam called them that was their name. Good thing he didn't call a dog a horse. I mean, how do your ride a dog? So how could they evolve if God created them at one time during the creation?
@Daniela1982: I said after the flood. God originally created all animals to only eat plants, that's not the case anymore.
I believe God put in place for evolution and natural selection to take place after the flood.
I don't consult the bible for data
B, because it's the obvious, most logical answer...
"yeah but then who created the micro organism?" I don't know and will never know. my guess is just the universe.
I thought every one knew. We are just some alien experiment gone wrong here on planet Earth.
No, that just pertains to the trolls.
“What came first, the chicken or the egg”? Something came first. Whatever came first, had to come from something else. Unless of course they are God.
The bird obviously came first and laid eggs.
I tend towards the idea that an intelligent being who possesses aseity started everything. I am still trying to figure out the details.
The creator (s) made the first models and scattered them all over different areas on earth...
Science and evolution
A and B are the same thing. One day the world will come to see that.
Humans come from other humans. Nothing else is possible until we perfect cloning, which God forbid.
since humans are on a spectrum, there is no such thing as a first human. But modern humans come from homo erectus and neaderthals
Aliens manipulating dna of monkeys thousands of years ago
I have no theories, I'm okay with the mystery
I believe evolution is true
Planet seeded by the architects
Through evolution.
def evolution in my opinion
I’m Christian.
Evolution.
evolution baybee
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Adam and Eve :-) lol
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