UFOs do they exist?

[harrison102]

Are aliens 👽 really real? Has anyone ever seen one or thinks they seen one? Or seeing a UFO? Existence is fact?

[Guffrus]

There is no way to know.

What @genericname85 said is basically a text book safe answer, that is all we can say for almost sure.

I have seen a UFO before but I haven't seen an alien, that doesn't help you but it does allow me to know that at least some of the other people who claim to have seen UFO's really did see something, though what they saw is obviously still unknowable.

Some people are lying, we can be completely certain about that because humans are dicks and that is exactly the sort of thing people do. Unfortunately we can't know who is lying and who isn't though I would suggest that anyone that we did for sure catch lying should be executed, its pathetic, annoying and extremely unhelpful.

What is interesting about the Aliens question which doesn't apply to any of the other 'spooky' type questions like religion or ghosts etc is that the entities with the best information, i. e. the various governments of the world who have all the data have always chosen to suppress the information, this is also extremely unhelpful because although this is suspicious and they clearly do cover up and lie about all sorts of awful shit that most certainly did really happen, like 9/11 being an inside job etc it still doesn't mean anything one way or another.

Another aspect which is interesting is that if an advanced alien race had visited Earth with designs of some sort of controlling intention what you would expect to see is an extreme polarisation of wealth and power and rapid technological advancement and this is obvious precisely what we do see, but again this doesn't mean anything, it's still much more likely to have the mudane explanation that humans are cunts and some humans are just smart enough to advance our understanding and 'stand on the shoulders' of the 'giants' who came before them etc.

But as i say it is interesting and what it does mean is that anyone who tells you that 'aliens obviously haven't visited Earth' is completely retarded, because they don't and can't know and are too stupid to understand that the possibility, no matter how remote you consider it to be, is not infact an unreasonable hypothesis and one which is rightly studied.

Which brings us to the final problem; the only way to know how much if any good evidence exists to support the idea is to spend your entire life studying the subject because it is presumably sufficiently difficult to tell the difference between a person who was convinced by compelling data and a crazy person that you would be undertaking a large investigation anyway so you may as well just investigate the UFO data yourself, there is more generated all the time for example the UFO which was on live television during the Queen of England's Jubilee.

So the long and the short of it is that the only way to know what is known is to have your own understanding and that means accessing and analysing the raw data yourself and interpreting it correctly whilst knowing the whole time that the answer is almost certainly 'no there aren't any aliens'.

[genericname85]

i mean considering the insane scales of the universe that we can see (not even takling about everything we can't and will never see), the probability of aliens not existing anywhere is very low.

[PointTaken]

Yes they do exist.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pentagon-reports-400-ufo-encounters-tells-congress-theyre-investigating-video/story?id=84753756

[genericname85]

ufos exist obviously. cause everything that flies is an ufo before we know what it is exactly. aliens probably do exist but probably insanely far away without the capacity of getting to us.

[Still-alive]

unidentified flying objects are real.

aliens aka extra terrestrials haven't been proven yet

[Ms_Facesitter]

No idea, haven't seen one yet!